Re: Kneed cue-notes

2004-06-17 Thread Ruud van Silfhout
Hi Han-Wen,

That was what I initially thought, that it would only work on PianoStaff's
only.
On my initial question I got the anwer that it would work on other staffs as
well!!

Regards,
Ruud van Silfhout

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday 08 June 2004 17.57, Ruud van Silfhout wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Some time ago I asked how I could create a piece of music
   with kneed cue notes. Until now I still do not have the desired
result.
 
  When I compile your file, I get a few programming error messages and
  completely weird output (don't you get this also?). I have added a bug
report
  to our database; I'll let you know when the bug is fixed.

 try doing it in a PianoStaff.

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Re: Kneed cue-notes

2004-06-17 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
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 Hi Han-Wen,
 
 That was what I initially thought, that it would only work on PianoStaff's
 only.
 On my initial question I got the anwer that it would work on other staffs as
 well!!

It should work, but only if you have no spanners (beams, slurs,
arpeggios) that cross staves.

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Re: Kneed cue-notes

2004-06-09 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 08.55, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday 08 June 2004 17.57, Ruud van Silfhout wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Some time ago I asked how I could create a piece of music
   with kneed cue notes. Until now I still do not have the desired result.
 
  When I compile your file, I get a few programming error messages and
  completely weird output (don't you get this also?). I have added a bug
  report to our database; I'll let you know when the bug is fixed.

 try doing it in a PianoStaff.

If \change Staff only can be handled correctly within a PianoStaff, then IMHO 
a warning (or even error) should be issued whenever you try to do it 
elsewhere (and maybe the command should be ignored).


And Ruud: Your notation for cue notes is quite non-standard, I think.. Another 
way of notating what you want to achieve, could be to use a separate, small, 
staff with the organ cue notes, above the choir staff (or you could put the 
choir staves inside a tweaked PianoStaff).

Erik


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Kneed cue-notes

2004-06-08 Thread Ruud van Silfhout
Hi,

Some time ago I asked how I could create a piece of music
with kneed cue notes. Until now I still do not have the desired result.

This is what I try to do (see music below):
I have two staffs called tenor and bass. On these staffs I have
multiple voices. A voice with the tenors music accompanied by
tenors text (which I left out to simpify the example a bit) and a voice
for the cue notes.
The same goes for the bass staff.

The reason to have separate voices for the cue notes is that I can
size these cue notes independently from the normal notes and that I
can reuse the tenor and bass music and lyrics in parts, which are
differently typeset. shouldn't this be possible? Otherwise I can't reuse
the normal bass and tenor music??

In order to change from staff I use the \change
command as I found in the beam-isknee.ly example.

Once this works, I also need the following: The tenor voice is normally
typeset with the G_8 clef. For the organ music in the cue notes,
the clef is a normal G.

What is the correct way to do this?

I am currently working on lily version 2.2.0, cygwin

Regards,
Ruud van Silfhout

\version 2.2.0

bassMusic  = \notes \relative c { \time 4/8 d2 | R2 | r16 d8 d16 d d d d | }
tenorMusic = \notes \relative c { \time 4/8 d2 | R2 | r16 d8 d16 d d d d | }
% oUp = \notes { \change Staff=tenor \stemDown }; does not work! staff
unknown yet

\score {
\context ChoirStaff 
  \context Staff = tenor 
\context Voice = tenors \notes { \clef G_8 \tenorMusic }
\context Voice = organUp \notes {  s1 }
  
  \context Staff = bass 
\context Voice = basses \notes { \clef bass \bassMusic }
\context Voice = organDown \notes \relative c {
  \clef bass
  \time 4/8
  % this is what I want to do;
  % designate a voice on a staff to switch to
  %\change Voice=organUp \stemDown e8
  %\change Voice=organDown \stemUp f,16
  % this is what I have to do; switch to a staff
  \change Staff=tenor \stemDown e8
  \change Staff=bass \stemUp f,16
  \change Staff=tenor \stemDown des'16
  \change Staff=bass \stemUp ges,8] r8 | r4
  \change Staff=tenor \stemDown d'8[ es8] | bes'8[
  \change Staff=bass \stemUp a,8 ~ a8 a8 ~ ] | a16[
  \change Staff=tenor \stemDown g8
  \change Staff=bass \stemUp c16 ~ ] c16[
  \change Staff=tenor \stemDown b16 ~ b8] |
}
  


  \paper {
indent = 0
papersize = a4
  }
}





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Re: Kneed cue-notes

2004-06-08 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 17.57, Ruud van Silfhout wrote:
 Hi,

 Some time ago I asked how I could create a piece of music
 with kneed cue notes. Until now I still do not have the desired result.

When I compile your file, I get a few programming error messages and 
completely weird output (don't you get this also?). I have added a bug report 
to our database; I'll let you know when the bug is fixed.

Thanks a lot for the report!
Erik


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Re: Kneed cue notes

2004-05-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Just as you can let an ordinary voice of music pass between
different staves (automatically or manually determined), you
can do the same to a voice of cue notes. See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Automatic-staff-changes.html#Automatic%20staff%20changes
and
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Manual-staff-switches.html#Manual%20staff%20switches
  /Mats
Ruud van Silfhout wrote:
Hi,
I am currently typesetting a piece for SATB. 
Each voice (S,A,T,B) consists a separate staff with accompanying lyrics.
In the tenor and bass staff some cue notes are shown which are actually 
played by an organ. So the cue notes are kneed over those two staffs.
Is this possible with lily? And if this is possible, how should I do that?

Regards,
Ruud van Silfhout

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