Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Scott

Dave Phillips wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:


Dave Phillips wrote:


Paul Scott wrote:

I'm not aware of any recent spacing changes.  Could you produce a 
very short example which shows this behavior with the two different 
versions?



See the LP notice at the bottom of this page:

   http://www.linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/gfhtrio4/gfhtrio4.html


I missed the "text" font part.  That version looks double-spaced or 
stretched to fit the line.  All I can say is that it looks great in 
2.9.13. 


Maybe I'll upgrade. I don't usually have any horrifying problems 
compiling it here.
Why compile it yourself?  The GUB's (Grand Unified Binaries - 
installers) on the web site work great.  I run Debian sid and rarely 
have trouble.


Note that when I use make-pango-font-tree the spacing reverts to what 
I'm used to seeing.

Understood.  I've never needed to try that.


It looks like a fun piece.  I'm a flutist.  It looks like it might 
also be great with bass or alto flute substituted for the harp.  Our 
Tucson Flute Club has two flute ensembles who might be interested in 
playing it.


Have at it. Any guitarists around ? The part's pretty easy but it 
sounds cool. :)

Yeah.  A couple of our members are in professional flute and guitar duos.



I might suggest using R1 instead of r1 for your whole measure rests.


Nice, thanks again. I've updated the Web page, thanks a lot for 
helping make it look better.

Glad it helped.

Take care,

Paul


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Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Phillips

Paul Scott wrote:


Dave Phillips wrote:


Paul Scott wrote:

I'm not aware of any recent spacing changes.  Could you produce a 
very short example which shows this behavior with the two different 
versions?



See the LP notice at the bottom of this page:

   http://www.linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/gfhtrio4/gfhtrio4.html


I missed the "text" font part.  That version looks double-spaced or 
stretched to fit the line.  All I can say is that it looks great in 
2.9.13.


Maybe I'll upgrade. I don't usually have any horrifying problems 
compiling it here.


Note that when I use make-pango-font-tree the spacing reverts to what 
I'm used to seeing.


It looks like a fun piece.  I'm a flutist.  It looks like it might 
also be great with bass or alto flute substituted for the harp.  Our 
Tucson Flute Club has two flute ensembles who might be interested in 
playing it.


Have at it. Any guitarists around ? The part's pretty easy but it sounds 
cool. :)



I might suggest using R1 instead of r1 for your whole measure rests.


Nice, thanks again. I've updated the Web page, thanks a lot for helping 
make it look better.


Best,

dp



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Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Scott

Dave Phillips wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:


Dave Phillips wrote:

Since you seem to know about the global settings: The default text 
font spacing for my 2.8.4 LP is twice as wide as it used to be (this 
is on a home-built LP under Linux, Debian Etch). What happened ? 


I'm not aware of any recent spacing changes.  Could you produce a 
very short example which shows this behavior with the two different 
versions?


See the LP notice at the bottom of this page:

   http://www.linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/gfhtrio4/gfhtrio4.html
I missed the "text" font part.  That version looks double-spaced or 
stretched to fit the line.  All I can say is that it looks great in 2.9.13.


The LP code is linked there too. You can see I used a brute force 
method in that example, now I just use make-pango-font-tree (I think 
that's what it's called).

I haven't needed that yet.

It looks like a fun piece.  I'm a flutist.  It looks like it might also 
be great with bass or alto flute substituted for the harp.  Our Tucson 
Flute Club has two flute ensembles who might be interested in playing it.


I might suggest using R1 instead of r1 for your whole measure rests.

Have fun,

Paul



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Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Phillips

Paul Scott wrote:


Dave Phillips wrote:

Since you seem to know about the global settings: The default text 
font spacing for my 2.8.4 LP is twice as wide as it used to be (this 
is on a home-built LP under Linux, Debian Etch). What happened ? 


I'm not aware of any recent spacing changes.  Could you produce a very 
short example which shows this behavior with the two different versions?


See the LP notice at the bottom of this page:

   http://www.linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/gfhtrio4/gfhtrio4.html

The LP code is linked there too. You can see I used a brute force method 
in that example, now I just use make-pango-font-tree (I think that's 
what it's called).


Best,

dp



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Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Scott

Dave Phillips wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:


#(set-global-staff-size 21)

at the top of each .ly file, where "21" is a global font size which 
can be fractional.


Very cool, thanks for the tip.

Since you seem to know about the global settings: The default text 
font spacing for my 2.8.4 LP is twice as wide as it used to be (this 
is on a home-built LP under Linux, Debian Etch). What happened ? 
I'm not aware of any recent spacing changes.  Could you produce a very 
short example which shows this behavior with the two different versions?
Is there a 1-line way to repair this ? I've been adding \markup 
commands for specific fonts, it's a pain but at least it restores the 
preferable spacing.
Have you read: 



   10.5.6 Horizontal Spacing

in the 2.8 documentation?

I usually don't have any problem with horizontal spacing.  Sometimes I 
use a line break (\break) to adjust horizontal spacing.  I also commonly 
adjust the width of multi-measure rests with

\override Score.MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #

HTH,

Paul




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Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Phillips

Paul Scott wrote:


#(set-global-staff-size 21)

at the top of each .ly file, where "21" is a global font size which 
can be fractional.


Very cool, thanks for the tip.

Since you seem to know about the global settings: The default text font 
spacing for my 2.8.4 LP is twice as wide as it used to be (this is on a 
home-built LP under Linux, Debian Etch). What happened ? Is there a 
1-line way to repair this ? I've been adding \markup commands for 
specific fonts, it's a pain but at least it restores the preferable 
spacing.


Best,

dp



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Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Phillips

Anthony Youngman wrote:


I'm guessing you're in America. What size is your output pdf? A4? If it
is and you tell the printer to print unscaled, then you're losing the
bottom 2/3" of the page.

First way round that is to tell acrobat to "scale page to fit printer".
Second way is to look at the relevant section of the manual (section 10?
11?) which will tell you how to change the paper size to American
Letter.
 

Outstanding, thank you. Your suggestions worked perfectly, I'm now 
completely happy with the printout. (And yes, I'm in the US.)



As for making everything bigger, change the font size. There's a section
in the manual on doing exactly that - scaling the output for scores,
whatever. Look up "feta" - it might well be in the index, or search the
pdf manual for it. It'll be obvious when you've found the right section,
there's a table of the different font sizes and what they're recommended
for.

I had been looking at the wrong page. Now I understand how to do what I 
want. My thanks to you and Paul Scott for this information.


LP rules. :)

Best,

dp



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Re: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Scott

Anthony Youngman wrote:

I'm guessing you're in America. What size is your output pdf? A4? If it
is and you tell the printer to print unscaled, then you're losing the
bottom 2/3" of the page.

First way round that is to tell acrobat to "scale page to fit printer".
Second way is to look at the relevant section of the manual (section 10?
11?) which will tell you how to change the paper size to American
Letter.

As for making everything bigger, change the font size. There's a section
in the manual on doing exactly that - scaling the output for scores,
whatever. Look up "feta" - it might well be in the index, or search the
pdf manual for it. It'll be obvious when you've found the right section,
there's a table of the different font sizes and what they're recommended
for.
  

which can be done with:

#(set-global-staff-size 21)

at the top of each .ly file, where "21" is a global font size which can 
be fractional.


Paul Scott



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RE: LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Anthony Youngman
I'm guessing you're in America. What size is your output pdf? A4? If it
is and you tell the printer to print unscaled, then you're losing the
bottom 2/3" of the page.

First way round that is to tell acrobat to "scale page to fit printer".
Second way is to look at the relevant section of the manual (section 10?
11?) which will tell you how to change the paper size to American
Letter.

As for making everything bigger, change the font size. There's a section
in the manual on doing exactly that - scaling the output for scores,
whatever. Look up "feta" - it might well be in the index, or search the
pdf manual for it. It'll be obvious when you've found the right section,
there's a table of the different font sizes and what they're recommended
for.

Cheers,
Wol 

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Greetings:

  I've written some music for flute, guitar, and harp, it's on-line at 
http://linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/gfhtrio4/gfhtrio4.html. The 
score is naturally three staves (the harpist is a novice, her part fits 
in a single clef), and the printout is lovely. Alas, the printout is 
also cutting off the last staff from each page. The printing continues 
at the start of the next page, i.e., the missing staff is simply gone 
(not continued on the next page). My question: How do I solve that 
problem from LP ? Is there a \paper directive I should use ? If so, 
which one ? Or is this a printer problem ?

  The printer is a recently acquired HP 6540, it's fast and its output 
is excellent. I'm hoping the problem isn't with the printer. :(

  Second problem: The printout is a little too small for some of 
students, how can I adjust the size of the printed elements ? Again, is 
there a global LP command that will print everything in a larger font & 
text (and handle the page breaks appropriately) ?

Best regards,

dp



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LP printing problems

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Phillips

Greetings:

 I've written some music for flute, guitar, and harp, it's on-line at 
http://linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/gfhtrio4/gfhtrio4.html. The 
score is naturally three staves (the harpist is a novice, her part fits 
in a single clef), and the printout is lovely. Alas, the printout is 
also cutting off the last staff from each page. The printing continues 
at the start of the next page, i.e., the missing staff is simply gone 
(not continued on the next page). My question: How do I solve that 
problem from LP ? Is there a \paper directive I should use ? If so, 
which one ? Or is this a printer problem ?


 The printer is a recently acquired HP 6540, it's fast and its output 
is excellent. I'm hoping the problem isn't with the printer. :(


 Second problem: The printout is a little too small for some of 
students, how can I adjust the size of the printed elements ? Again, is 
there a global LP command that will print everything in a larger font & 
text (and handle the page breaks appropriately) ?


Best regards,

dp



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