Re: LilyPond initiative in french conservatoires in Paris
Hi Noeck,
What was the range of ages in the auditorium and their (musical)
background?
Students were from 7 to 18 years old. Average age was around 9. All
these students globally started learning music at age 6 or 7. In most
french conservatories, students have both an instrument course and a
music education ("Formation Musicale") course. So these students you saw
(hopefully) have a common background based on "sensoriality", full
participation of the whole body, singing, memorizing, etc. Huge
(possibly off) topic though, and very related to teachers themselves.
I was wondering: Why don't you introduce \language "français" from the
beginning?
Very interesting. When we first tried to imagine how we could introduce
LilyPond and its representation of music to young people, we thought
we'll need to stick to what is the most natural expression of music for
them, which turned out not to be about note names but sound itself. And
we observed that being in presence of another form of representation of
a musical component (pitch, here, with alphabet letters) is really
positive and stimulating their musical senses. After that, we decided to
stick to the default note names and that this also was a little step
toward international music things ;)
Best wishes this project!
Thank you Noeck!
Yours,
Mathieu
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Re: LilyPond initiative in french conservatoires in Paris
Hi Mathieu, thanks for sharing your experience and the video. I watched it completely and I think this was a nice introduction. It is particularly good that it is a gentle introduction and you are aware that newcomers need their time to understand it (also details like what is a back-slash). What was the range of ages in the auditorium and their (musical) background? I was wondering: Why don't you introduce \language "français" from the beginning? Best wishes this project! Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond initiative in french conservatoires in Paris
Hi all, Thanks a lot for your time and your positive feedback! It's very encouraging! While this first event happened in one of the 17 district music conservatories of Paris, we are now working on a bigger scale to provide such a living presentation of LilyPond to the whole group of conservatories, including students and teachers through professional internal trainings and courses. Thanks also for your suggestions about music organizations that could hopefully be sensitive to such an initiative. We'll definitely explore those paths. Project is permanently evolving so don't hesitate to share impressions, suggestions, and more. We'll also give you details on our next public presentations when they'll happen and would be glad to meet some of you guys. Cheers, Mathieu Le 2015-10-29 00:27, Remi Griot a écrit : Hi, Maybe the private music school (imep, atla...) could be sensitive to this presentation. I was an imep student, and there was a lot of home work about arrangement, so the teacher made a course on Finale... Le mer. 28 oct. 2015 à 18:38, Pierre Perol-Schneider a écrit : Hi Mathieu, Very nice, congrats. I tried to do such a presentation last year in another Parisian music conservatory without success (for some reason, the director didn't want it). Cheers, Pierre 2015-10-28 12:05 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Demange : Hello, My friend and colleague Aymeric OLIVAUD and I, would like to share the result of our (ongoing) work focused on LilyPond. We are two french music teachers in Paris and we imagined a form of public workshop/keynote event with young students where we'd try to show and explain what is LilyPond but also quickly jump into how to actually use it. http://lilypond.conservatoire-claude-debussy.fr [1] Here you'll find the result of that event (first video). Even though it's in French, we'd be very delighted to hear your feedback about this initiative. It has already shown great success as I counted something like 40 students now using LilyPond and loving it in the music engraving workshop I'm in charge of in conservatoire Claude Debussy. Yours, Mathieu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user [2] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user [2] Links: -- [1] http://lilypond.conservatoire-claude-debussy.fr [2] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond initiative in french conservatoires in Paris
Hi, Maybe the private music school (imep, atla...) could be sensitive to this presentation. I was an imep student, and there was a lot of home work about arrangement, so the teacher made a course on Finale... Le mer. 28 oct. 2015 à 18:38, Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Hi Mathieu, > > Very nice, congrats. > I tried to do such a presentation last year in another Parisian music > conservatory without success (for some reason, the director didn't want it). > > Cheers, > Pierre > > 2015-10-28 12:05 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Demange : > >> Hello, >> >> My friend and colleague Aymeric OLIVAUD and I, would like to share the >> result of our (ongoing) work focused on LilyPond. We are two french music >> teachers in Paris and we imagined a form of public workshop/keynote event >> with young students where we'd try to show and explain what is LilyPond but >> also quickly jump into how to actually use it. >> >> http://lilypond.conservatoire-claude-debussy.fr >> >> Here you'll find the result of that event (first video). Even though it's >> in French, we'd be very delighted to hear your feedback about this >> initiative. It has already shown great success as I counted something like >> 40 students now using LilyPond and loving it in the music engraving >> workshop I'm in charge of in conservatoire Claude Debussy. >> >> Yours, >> >> Mathieu >> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >> > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond initiative in french conservatoires in Paris
Hi Mathieu, Very nice, congrats. I tried to do such a presentation last year in another Parisian music conservatory without success (for some reason, the director didn't want it). Cheers, Pierre 2015-10-28 12:05 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Demange : > Hello, > > My friend and colleague Aymeric OLIVAUD and I, would like to share the > result of our (ongoing) work focused on LilyPond. We are two french music > teachers in Paris and we imagined a form of public workshop/keynote event > with young students where we'd try to show and explain what is LilyPond but > also quickly jump into how to actually use it. > > http://lilypond.conservatoire-claude-debussy.fr > > Here you'll find the result of that event (first video). Even though it's > in French, we'd be very delighted to hear your feedback about this > initiative. It has already shown great success as I counted something like > 40 students now using LilyPond and loving it in the music engraving > workshop I'm in charge of in conservatoire Claude Debussy. > > Yours, > > Mathieu > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond initiative in french conservatoires in Paris
Hello, My friend and colleague Aymeric OLIVAUD and I, would like to share the result of our (ongoing) work focused on LilyPond. We are two french music teachers in Paris and we imagined a form of public workshop/keynote event with young students where we'd try to show and explain what is LilyPond but also quickly jump into how to actually use it. http://lilypond.conservatoire-claude-debussy.fr Here you'll find the result of that event (first video). Even though it's in French, we'd be very delighted to hear your feedback about this initiative. It has already shown great success as I counted something like 40 students now using LilyPond and loving it in the music engraving workshop I'm in charge of in conservatoire Claude Debussy. Yours, Mathieu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
