Re: Re: Long syllable vs. span bar

2018-01-19 Thread Simon Albrecht




> Simon Albrecht wrote:
> 
> > LilyPond, however, distorts spacing to place the span bar after the
> > syllable, and I can’t think of an override to change that. 
> 
> There were two solutions here ...
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-08/msg00595.html
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Robin

Oh my, that's embarrassing... Thanks for digging it up. I'm terrible at 
searching archives.

Best, Simon


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Re: Long syllable vs. span bar

2018-01-19 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 19.01.2018 um 17:29 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle:

Probably the easiest way to achieve this is just to use *ChoirStaff* and add
the Span_bar_engraver to get the bar lines.
That way, Lyrics will nonchalantly cross the bar lines as if they weren't
there and by setting the whiteout property, you're there.
Nice. Maybe one should \override Lyrics.LyricText.layer and 
ChoirStaff.SpanBar.layer so that ties etc. aren’t covered by the whiteout.


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Re: Long syllable vs. span bar

2018-01-19 Thread Robin Bannister

Simon Albrecht wrote:


LilyPond, however, distorts spacing to place the span bar after the
syllable, and I can’t think of an override to change that. 


There were two solutions here ...
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-08/msg00595.html


Cheers,
Robin

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Re: Long syllable vs. span bar

2018-01-19 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Simon,

Probably the easiest way to achieve this is just to use *ChoirStaff* and add
the Span_bar_engraver to get the bar lines.
That way, Lyrics will nonchalantly cross the bar lines as if they weren't
there and by setting the whiteout property, you're there.

I've just adapted your original coding to your needs:

\version "2.19.80" 

\paper { 
   line-width = 110 
   indent = 0 
} 

\score { 
   \new ChoirStaff \with { \consists "Span_bar_engraver" } << 
 { 4 4 4 4~ 4 8 8 4 4~ 4 8 8 2 } 
 \addlyrics { 
   \override LyricText.whiteout = ##t
   a ver -- y looong __ syl -- la -- ble, 
   looong __ syl -- la -- ble 
 } 
 { 1 1 1 } 
   >> 
} 


HTH,
Torsten




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Long syllable vs. span bar

2018-01-19 Thread Simon Albrecht

Hello everybody,

in full scores, choir parts are often typeset with span bars and 
traditionally, lyric syllables often cross those spanbars with whiteout. 
LilyPond, however, distorts spacing to place the span bar after the 
syllable, and I can’t think of an override to change that. The second 
example shows using a markup with null dimensions, which isn’t the right 
solution for several reasons but in this case shows what I aim for 
(except I didn’t add whiteout and the lyric extender is obviously wrong).


Is there a better solution?

Best, Simon


\version "2.19.80"

\paper {
  line-width = 110
  indent = 0
}

\score {
  \new StaffGroup <<
    { 4 4 4 4~ 4 8 8 4 4~ 4 8 8 2 }
    \addlyrics {
  a ver -- y looong __ syl -- la -- ble,
  \markup \with-dimensions-from \null looong __ syl -- la -- ble
    }
    { 1 1 1 }
  >>
}

\version "2.19.80"

\paper {
  line-width = 110
  indent = 0
}

\score {
  \new StaffGroup <<
{ 4 4 4 4~ 4 8 8 4 4~ 4 8 8 2 }
\addlyrics {
  a ver -- y looong __ syl -- la -- ble,
  \markup \with-dimensions-from \null looong __ syl -- la -- ble
}
{ 1 1 1 }
  >>
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