Re: Lyric representation in MIDI?
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For songs with several verses, I guess the lyric printouts won't
> make any sense, no matter how we place the information in the MIDI
> files.
Not unless we introduce some kind of semantic to tell Lilypond that
they are verses, anyway.
pseudocode-like idea:
\repeat verses 3 \music
...
\lyricsto foo \verses { \verseI \verseII \verseIII }
...where a "\repeat verses" wouldn't show up in print, but could be
expanded in MIDI, and \verses would put its arguments below each other
in print and after each other (or just output the first argument)
in MIDI.
I'm not offering to implement or sponsor this, though; I'm just trying
to point out what would be needed to get somehow intelligent MIDI
output for multiple verses automatically.
Within today's framework and a bit of hacking, the same effect can of
course be acheived with a separate \score block for MIDI, but not as
automatically. Here's what I do currently:
\score {
\new Score {
\global
\unfoldRepeats
<<
\markups
\new Staff = "Tenor I" {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"oboe"
\tiMusic
}
\new Staff = "Tenor II" {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"trumpet"
\tiiMusic
}
\new Staff = "Bass I" {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"bassoon"
\biMusic
}
\new Staff = "Bass II" {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"baritone sax"
\biiMusic
}
>>
}
\midi {}
}
\global and \markups hold different common stuff here, while \tiMusic
etc hold music for each voice.
Notice the complete lack of lyrics in my MIDI output when I use this.
(The \score block I use for printing is of course quite different.)
-- Arvid
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Re: Lyric representation in MIDI?
2008/5/6 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Currently, LilyPond uses a separate track (and channel) for each Lyric > context to output > the corresponding lyric syllables, AFAICT all lyrics could perfectly go into the same track. Lyrics events and other META events do not have a channel. One difference between tracks and channels is that tracks should not affect playback, they are there only for convenience if you want to import the file into a sequencer. Also remember that tracks can mix events from multiple channels. > so that players like timidity (and > certainly several other > "Karaoke" like players) can print the lyrics on the screen while playing > the music. > Using one track for each Lyric context seems like a waste, AFAICT tracks do not have the limit of 16. > I > don't really see the point of separating the different lyric lines into > separate tracks/channels. Can the lyrics really be separated into separate channels? > > Is there any possibility to lump all the lyrics into a single > track/channel, Do Lyrics have a channel at all? I think not. > perhaps even in the > control track (track 0) so that the remaining 14 channels You mix tracks and channels again. Use track 0 for lyrics and you still have many free tracks, with 15 channels each. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lyric representation in MIDI?
Perhaps some of you have MIDI expertise enough to answer the following question. Currently, LilyPond uses a separate track (and channel) for each Lyric context to output the corresponding lyric syllables, so that players like timidity (and certainly several other "Karaoke" like players) can print the lyrics on the screen while playing the music. Using one track for each Lyric context seems like a waste, especially in examples like the "All ye People Clap your Hands" posted earlier today on lilypond-user, where the same lyrics is repeated below each stave for readibility reasons. However, even otherwise I don't really see the point of separating the different lyric lines into separate tracks/channels. Is there any possibility to lump all the lyrics into a single track/channel, perhaps even in the control track (track 0) so that the remaining 14 channels can be used for the actual music (one channel per Staff context, by default)? Because of the lack of standardization of MIDI, I guess you would have to try a number of different sequencers and MIDI players to make sure that this works as expected, or perhaps some of you have experience enough to answer the question anyway? As far as I can see, there are no channel number indications in the lyric messages in the generated MIDI files, which according to my reading of http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2003-10/msg00069.html indicates that they actually should be placed in track 0. For songs with several verses, I guess the lyric printouts won't make any sense, no matter how we place the information in the MIDI files. /Mats -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing School of Electrical Engineering Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
