LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13?
Dear all, everything was fine with LyricTies, until I came up with a score (say: lyrics in this score) when trying the current Lily devel. What happened? In 2.12.3: all lyric ties have been placed beautifully where they have to be – starting right at the bottom right corner of the left letter and ending right at the bottom left corner of the following letter. On Mac OS X Tiger, Lily 2.12.3 (and before) resp. Pango/FontConfig has chosen "Helvetica" to borrow this special char from. Great – fits excellent! NOW on the same machine – same OS, same hardware (sorry, can't change that much, it's a MacBook), no re-install ever since Lily 11.x lived here (may I call this "stable"?) – now Lily 2.13.34 upwards finds "MS-Gothic" to be tied to lyrically!!! It's not for the font, but for the way Mr U+203F is invoked: suddenly the glyph is much more narrow, it starts beneath the vertical center of the letter and ends halfway the wordspace, leaving the same gap before the following letter, where it was intended to stop. So WHY do Lily 2.12 and 2.13 on the SAME MACHINE choose different (system) fonts for the lyric tie? I greped all Lily-containers for "Helvetica" or "MS-Gothic" to discover a new preference for the new font, but without success. Is it Pango to make the choice on its own leaving Lily back with baddest spacing? Please, compare the clips and see, how ugly it's now on Mac OS X :(( I've found some code to modify the lyric tie spacing, but that's just a solution for my local machine, not suitable to give away ... Setup: LP 2.12.3 and 2.13.11–35 on Mac OS X (10.4.11 Intel) Regards, Robert -- http://www.lilypondforum.de/ http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?action=profile;u=170<><>___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13?
Please could you post the LilyPond snippet that you use to generate this example. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: "RobUr" <16...@golden-ears.de> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13? Dear all, everything was fine with LyricTies, until I came up with a score (say: lyrics in this score) when trying the current Lily devel. What happened? In 2.12.3: all lyric ties have been placed beautifully where they have to be – starting right at the bottom right corner of the left letter and ending right at the bottom left corner of the following letter. On Mac OS X Tiger, Lily 2.12.3 (and before) resp. Pango/FontConfig has chosen "Helvetica" to borrow this special char from. Great – fits excellent! NOW on the same machine – same OS, same hardware (sorry, can't change that much, it's a MacBook), no re-install ever since Lily 11.x lived here (may I call this "stable"?) – now Lily 2.13.34 upwards finds "MS-Gothic" to be tied to lyrically!!! It's not for the font, but for the way Mr U+203F is invoked: suddenly the glyph is much more narrow, it starts beneath the vertical center of the letter and ends halfway the wordspace, leaving the same gap before the following letter, where it was intended to stop. So WHY do Lily 2.12 and 2.13 on the SAME MACHINE choose different (system) fonts for the lyric tie? I greped all Lily-containers for "Helvetica" or "MS-Gothic" to discover a new preference for the new font, but without success. Is it Pango to make the choice on its own leaving Lily back with baddest spacing? Please, compare the clips and see, how ugly it's now on Mac OS X :(( I've found some code to modify the lyric tie spacing, but that's just a solution for my local machine, not suitable to give away ... Setup: LP 2.12.3 and 2.13.11–35 on Mac OS X (10.4.11 Intel) Regards, Robert -- http://www.lilypondforum.de/ http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?action=profile;u=170 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13?
Sure, forgot it in the hassle ... there's nothing unusual:
--- snip ---
\version "2.13.35"
\relative c' {
r4^"2.13.35 (uses “MS-Gothic”)" f e d | c2 c
}
\addlyrics { Buon gior -- no~al mon -- do. }
--- snap ---
Best, Robert
Please could you post the LilyPond snippet that you use to generate this
example.
--
Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "RobUr" <16...@golden-ears.de>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:43 AM
Subject: LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13?
Dear all,
everything was fine with LyricTies, until I came up with a score (say:
lyrics in this score) when trying the current Lily devel.
What happened? In 2.12.3: all lyric ties have been placed beautifully
where they have to be – starting right at the bottom right corner of the
left letter and ending right at the bottom left corner of the following
letter. On Mac OS X Tiger, Lily 2.12.3 (and before) resp.
Pango/FontConfig
has chosen "Helvetica" to borrow this special char from. Great – fits
excellent!
NOW on the same machine – same OS, same hardware (sorry, can't change
that
much, it's a MacBook), no re-install ever since Lily 11.x lived here (may
I call this "stable"?) – now Lily 2.13.34 upwards finds "MS-Gothic" to be
tied to lyrically!!! It's not for the font, but for the way Mr U+203F is
invoked: suddenly the glyph is much more narrow, it starts beneath the
vertical center of the letter and ends halfway the wordspace, leaving the
same gap before the following letter, where it was intended to stop.
So WHY do Lily 2.12 and 2.13 on the SAME MACHINE choose different
(system)
fonts for the lyric tie? I greped all Lily-containers for "Helvetica" or
"MS-Gothic" to discover a new preference for the new font, but without
success. Is it Pango to make the choice on its own leaving Lily back with
baddest spacing? Please, compare the clips and see, how ugly it's now on
Mac OS X :(( I've found some code to modify the lyric tie spacing, but
that's just a solution for my local machine, not suitable to give away
...
Setup: LP 2.12.3 and 2.13.11–35 on Mac OS X (10.4.11 Intel)
Regards,
Robert
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Re: LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13?
Thanks. Submitted as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1294
--
Phil Holmes
- Original Message -
From: "RobUr" <16...@golden-ears.de>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13?
Sure, forgot it in the hassle ... there's nothing unusual:
--- snip ---
\version "2.13.35"
\relative c' {
r4^"2.13.35 (uses “MS-Gothic”)" f e d | c2 c
}
\addlyrics { Buon gior -- no~al mon -- do. }
--- snap ---
Best, Robert
Please could you post the LilyPond snippet that you use to generate this
example.
--
Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "RobUr" <16...@golden-ears.de>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:43 AM
Subject: LyricTie: Different font used from 2.12 to 2.13?
Dear all,
everything was fine with LyricTies, until I came up with a score (say:
lyrics in this score) when trying the current Lily devel.
What happened? In 2.12.3: all lyric ties have been placed beautifully
where they have to be – starting right at the bottom right corner of the
left letter and ending right at the bottom left corner of the following
letter. On Mac OS X Tiger, Lily 2.12.3 (and before) resp.
Pango/FontConfig
has chosen "Helvetica" to borrow this special char from. Great – fits
excellent!
NOW on the same machine – same OS, same hardware (sorry, can't change
that
much, it's a MacBook), no re-install ever since Lily 11.x lived here (may
I call this "stable"?) – now Lily 2.13.34 upwards finds "MS-Gothic" to be
tied to lyrically!!! It's not for the font, but for the way Mr U+203F is
invoked: suddenly the glyph is much more narrow, it starts beneath the
vertical center of the letter and ends halfway the wordspace, leaving the
same gap before the following letter, where it was intended to stop.
So WHY do Lily 2.12 and 2.13 on the SAME MACHINE choose different
(system)
fonts for the lyric tie? I greped all Lily-containers for "Helvetica" or
"MS-Gothic" to discover a new preference for the new font, but without
success. Is it Pango to make the choice on its own leaving Lily back with
baddest spacing? Please, compare the clips and see, how ugly it's now on
Mac OS X :(( I've found some code to modify the lyric tie spacing, but
that's just a solution for my local machine, not suitable to give away
...
Setup: LP 2.12.3 and 2.13.11–35 on Mac OS X (10.4.11 Intel)
Regards,
Robert
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