Re: Lyrics collide with barlines

2006-10-24 Thread Catalin Francu

Hi,

Thanks for your suggestions. ChoirStaff sounds like a more sensible
choice, and it explains why lyrics don't try by default to avoid
barlines. All the Romanian scores I've seen so far use top-to-bottom
barlines, and I would have liked to use the same style, but if our
conductor approves :) I'll switch to ChoirStaff.

As for \whiteout, that's great to know in general, but I haven't found
an equivalent for lyrics.

Thanks,
Catalin

On 10/24/06, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Catalin

Try changing the \new StaffGroup statement to \new ChoirStaff.

This will restrict all the barlines to just the music staves and avoid all 
clashes with the lyrics.

Trevor

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> Catalin Francu
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> Subject: Lyrics collide with barlines
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have typeset over 100 pages of music with Lilypond 2.8.6 last month
> and there's only one thing that I could not figure out how to do.
> Every now and then, lyrics will collide with barlines. See for
> example:
>
> http://catalin.francu.com/Music/colinde/
>
> (some Romanian carols). Look at la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.ly and the
> generated la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.pdf. You'll see the collisions right
> from the first system. The documentation proposes a solution here:
>
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Vocal
> -music.html#Vocal-music
>
> However, that doesn't work well for me. See the modified
> la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.ly and la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.pdf in the same
> folder. Two unwanted effects happen when I do what the manual says:
>
> - The bar lines now extend down, including the bass lyrics (before,
> they ended on the bass staff)
> - Some non-simple barlines (such as the repeat barline after measure
> 18) appear chopped in pieces.
>
> Ideally, I'd like a way to tell Lilypond "I want at least two mm of
> space between barlines and text".
>
> Other than that, big big kudos (I wish I only had one gripe with every
> software package I used).
>
> Catalin
>
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RE: Lyrics collide with barlines

2006-10-24 Thread Trevor Daniels

Hi Catalin

Try changing the \new StaffGroup statement to \new ChoirStaff.

This will restrict all the barlines to just the music staves and avoid all 
clashes with the lyrics.

Trevor

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Catalin Francu
> Sent: 23 October 2006 22:58
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Lyrics collide with barlines
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have typeset over 100 pages of music with Lilypond 2.8.6 last month
> and there's only one thing that I could not figure out how to do.
> Every now and then, lyrics will collide with barlines. See for
> example:
> 
> http://catalin.francu.com/Music/colinde/
> 
> (some Romanian carols). Look at la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.ly and the
> generated la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.pdf. You'll see the collisions right
> from the first system. The documentation proposes a solution here:
> 
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Vocal
> -music.html#Vocal-music
> 
> However, that doesn't work well for me. See the modified
> la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.ly and la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.pdf in the same
> folder. Two unwanted effects happen when I do what the manual says:
> 
> - The bar lines now extend down, including the bass lyrics (before,
> they ended on the bass staff)
> - Some non-simple barlines (such as the repeat barline after measure
> 18) appear chopped in pieces.
> 
> Ideally, I'd like a way to tell Lilypond "I want at least two mm of
> space between barlines and text".
> 
> Other than that, big big kudos (I wish I only had one gripe with every
> software package I used).
> 
> Catalin
> 
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Re: Lyrics collide with barlines

2006-10-23 Thread Marcus Macauley

Catalin Francu wrote:

Every now and then, lyrics will collide with barlines.

...

Ideally, I'd like a way to tell Lilypond "I want at least two mm of
space between barlines and text".


Hi Catalin,

This doesn't quite address your question/gripe, but for what it's worth,  
if a piece of regular text markup is colliding with a barline and you want  
the barline to be "blanked out" around it (rather than avoiding the  
collision in some other way), you can change:

   \markup { "your text" }

to:
   \markup { \whiteout "your text" }

...and voila!

(\whiteout is documented in the manual, "8.1.6 Overview of text markup  
commands")


Something analogous may be possible with lyrics, too, although it would  
have to be done on a case-by-case basis, and it may not be the effect you  
want.


Marcus


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Lyrics collide with barlines

2006-10-23 Thread Catalin Francu

Hi,

I have typeset over 100 pages of music with Lilypond 2.8.6 last month
and there's only one thing that I could not figure out how to do.
Every now and then, lyrics will collide with barlines. See for
example:

http://catalin.francu.com/Music/colinde/

(some Romanian carols). Look at la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.ly and the
generated la_vitleem_colo_n_jos.pdf. You'll see the collisions right
from the first system. The documentation proposes a solution here:

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Vocal-music.html#Vocal-music

However, that doesn't work well for me. See the modified
la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.ly and la_vitleem_colo_n_jos2.pdf in the same
folder. Two unwanted effects happen when I do what the manual says:

- The bar lines now extend down, including the bass lyrics (before,
they ended on the bass staff)
- Some non-simple barlines (such as the repeat barline after measure
18) appear chopped in pieces.

Ideally, I'd like a way to tell Lilypond "I want at least two mm of
space between barlines and text".

Other than that, big big kudos (I wish I only had one gripe with every
software package I used).

Catalin


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