Re: Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4

2002-10-04 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen

Alois Steindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Today I re-installed tetex-tiny several times (due to clashes of
> environment variables (TEXMFCNF) settings there where some problems),
> until it produced proper output. Now the spacing looks perfect.
> I had thaught that lilypond already takes care of the proper spacing
> and LaTeX only does the typesetting

It does.  But LilyPond needs to get the font and character dimensions
of the TeX fonts that are used.  This goes through the kpathsea
library and actual font files.  Juggling with two tex distributions is
asking for trouble.

> Thanks for your valuable hints!

I would suggest to use tetex alone; or create two users: where each
users only sees one tex distribution (PATH and TEX* variables).

Jan.

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Re: Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4

2002-10-03 Thread Alois Steindl

>
>
>> Hello,
>> an (partial) answer to my own question:
>> I just tried the same input with lilypond 1.6.4 on an RedHat 7.3 system and it 
>> worked nicely. I will have to look into the cygwin tree, whether there are 
>> any old files hidden.
>
>Run ly2dvi -V to get a verbose listing of all files read by
>Lilypond.
>
>   /Mats
>  
>
Hello,
I think I figured out what happened:
Since I just had installed the new TeXLive 7 distribution on my PC, I 
wanted to keep that as my default.
Therefore I tried quite hard to have the teTeX and LiveTeX distributions 
coexist.
Today I re-installed tetex-tiny several times (due to clashes of 
environment variables (TEXMFCNF) settings there where some problems), 
until it produced proper output. Now the spacing looks perfect.
I had thaught that lilypond already takes care of the proper spacing and 
 LaTeX only does the typesetting, but the two programs are much more 
interwoven.
So the solution will likely be to keep a subset of the teTeX-tiny 
package -- just latex.{fmt,exe} and the kpathsea-related programs and of 
course a proper texmf.cnf file, which points to the proper directory 
trees in the TeXLive branch. Or maybe I switch over from LiveTeX to 
teTeX. (Since I have Win2k and Redhat linux on my PC, I would prefer to 
use a common distribution).

Thanks for your valuable hints!

Alois
 

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Re: Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4

2002-09-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson

> Hello,
> an (partial) answer to my own question:
> I just tried the same input with lilypond 1.6.4 on an RedHat 7.3 system and it 
> worked nicely. I will have to look into the cygwin tree, whether there are 
> any old files hidden.

Run ly2dvi -V to get a verbose listing of all files read by
Lilypond.

   /Mats




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Re: Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4

2002-09-30 Thread Alois Steindl

On Sonntag, 29. September 2002 21:52, Alois Steindl wrote:
> Hello,
> thanks quite a lot for your answer!
> Unfortunately I did send an out-of-phase input file (I experimented with
> different settings). Now I rerun the example at home with the final block
>
> \score {
>  \simultaneous {
>\addlyrics
>   \context Staff = mel
>   {
>   \melody }
>   \context Lyrics \text
>  }
>\midi  { \tempo 4=120}
>  \paper { papersize = "a4"  }
> }
>
> and obtained just one line with several overlaps in the text.
>

Hello,
an (partial) answer to my own question:
I just tried the same input with lilypond 1.6.4 on an RedHat 7.3 system and it 
worked nicely. I will have to look into the cygwin tree, whether there are 
any old files hidden.
Best regards
Alois





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Re: Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4

2002-09-29 Thread Alois Steindl

Hello,
thanks quite a lot for your answer!
Unfortunately I did send an out-of-phase input file (I experimented with 
different settings). Now I rerun the example at home with the final block

\score {
 \simultaneous {
   \addlyrics
  \context Staff = mel
  { 
\melody }
  \context Lyrics \text
 }
   \midi  { \tempo 4=120}   
 \paper { papersize = "a4"  }
}

and obtained just one line with several overlaps in the text.

An additional question: The midi output doesn't seem to produce any 
sound when played with Winamp on Win2000. What might be the reason?

Best regards
Alois

PS.: I append the complete song for reference; hope that I don't waste 
too much bandwidth:

\header {
 title = "Der schlafende Apfel "
tagline = " "
}
\paper{ papersize = "a4" }
\include "paper20.ly"
\include "deutsch.ly"
melody = \notes
\relative c'' {
\property Score.midiInstrument = "alto sax"
\property Score.midiInstrument = "banjo"
\key g \major
\time 2/4
d8 d e e | d4 h | c8 c a a |
g2
| d'8 d e e | d d h4 | c8 c a a | g2
  \bar "|."
}


text = \lyrics < {
\context LyricsVoice = "Soprano-1"
\property LyricsVoice .stanza = "1:"
\property LyricsVoice .stz = "(1)"  
Lie- ber, lie- ber Ap- fel, bist so schön und
rund und die Mut- ter hat ge- sagt, Äp- fel sind ge -- sund.
}
{
\context LyricsVoice = "Soprano-2"
\property LyricsVoice .stanza = "2:"
\property LyricsVoice .stz = "(2)"  
Lie- ber, lie- ber Ap- fel, spring doch gleich vom Baum!
Schau, ich halt die Schür- ze schon un- ten an dem Saum.
}
 >

\score {
 \simultaneous {
   \addlyrics
  \context Staff = mel
  { 
\melody }
  \context Lyrics \text
 }
   \midi  { \tempo 4=120}   
 \paper { papersize = "a4"  }
}




Jan Nieuwenhuizen schrieb:
> Alois Steindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> 
>>this week I tried the cygwin port of the new version 1.6.4 with a
>>little song.  Since the letters of the lyrics overlap each other, I
>>assume that I have to set some flag to change the spacing rule (from
>>note-length proportional to (maximum) word-width).  Is there any
>>flag for archieving sufficient space (except placing many breaks,
>>which the yields very large space for long notes with short text)?
> 
> 
>>\header {
>>%title = "Der schlafende Apfel "
>>  tagline = " "
>>}
> 
> 
> This file should work fine, as long as you uncomment your paper
> block:
> 
> 
>>  \midi  { \tempo 4=120}  
>>%\paper { linewidth = 13.0 \cm }
>>}
> 
> 
> like so:
> 
>   \paper { linewidth = 13.0 \cm }
>   }
> 
> I suspect that you have been looking at previous versions, because
> the file you sent doesn't generate paper output.
>   
> Jan.
>   




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Re: Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4

2002-09-27 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen

Alois Steindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> this week I tried the cygwin port of the new version 1.6.4 with a
> little song.  Since the letters of the lyrics overlap each other, I
> assume that I have to set some flag to change the spacing rule (from
> note-length proportional to (maximum) word-width).  Is there any
> flag for archieving sufficient space (except placing many breaks,
> which the yields very large space for long notes with short text)?

> \header {
> %title = "Der schlafende Apfel "
>   tagline = " "
> }

This file should work fine, as long as you uncomment your paper
block:

>   \midi  { \tempo 4=120}  
> %\paper { linewidth = 13.0 \cm }
> }

like so:

  \paper { linewidth = 13.0 \cm }
  }

I suspect that you have been looking at previous versions, because
the file you sent doesn't generate paper output.
  
Jan.
  
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Lyrics spacing with lilypond 1.6.4

2002-09-27 Thread Alois Steindl

Hello,
this week I tried the cygwin port of the new version 1.6.4 with a little song.
Since the letters of the lyrics overlap each other, I assume that I have to 
set some flag to change the spacing rule (from note-length proportional to 
(maximum) word-width).
Is there any flag for archieving sufficient space (except placing many breaks, 
which the yields very large space for long notes with short text)?

Best wishes
Alois

\header {
%title = "Der schlafende Apfel "
tagline = " "
}
\paper{ papersize = "a4" 
textheight = \vsize - 2.0 \cm}
\include "paper20.ly"
\include "deutsch.ly"
%\include "banter.ly"
melody = \notes  
\relative c'' {
\property Staff.AutoBeaming = ##f
\property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t
%   \partial 4
\property Score.midiInstrument = "alto sax"
\property Score.midiInstrument = "banjo"
%   \time 4/4;
%   \property Staff.timeSignatureStyle = "4/4"
\key g \major
\time 2/4
d8 d e e | d4 h | c8 c a a |
g2 | d'8 d e e | d d h4 | c8 c a a | g2 
 \bar "|."
}


text = \lyrics < {
\context LyricsVoice = "Soprano-1"
\property LyricsVoice .stanza = "1:"
\property LyricsVoice .stz = "(1)"  
\property Lyrics . LyricText \override #'alignment = #0
Lie- ber, lie- ber Ap- fel, bist so schön und
rund und die Mut- ter hat ge- sagt, Äp- fel sind ge -- sund. 
}
{
\context LyricsVoice = "Soprano-2"
\property LyricsVoice .stanza = "2:"
\property LyricsVoice .stz = "(2)"  
\property Lyrics . LyricText \override #'alignment = #0
Lie- ber, lie- ber Ap- fel, spring doch gleich vom Baum!
Schau, ich halt die Schür- ze schon un- ten an dem Saum.
} 
>

\score {
\simultaneous {
% \accompaniment
%  \context ChordNames \accompaniment
  \addlyrics
 \context Staff = mel
 {  
\melody }
 \context Lyrics \text
}
  \midi  { \tempo 4=120}
%\paper { linewidth = 13.0 \cm }
}





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