Re: NR 1.1.2, transpose: obscure sentence
Hello, Here's the way I understand it (but I may be wrong, of course). Imagine you wrote a alto saxophone part, but you notated all in real sounds. You may use the \transpose command this way : \new Staff \transpose c a \mySaxvariable As you may know, alto sax transpose one sixth lower, you must thus raise it by the same interval. But, in relative mode, the distance between c and a would only be a third, not a sixth. So, when you define the transposition interval with two notes, (c and a in this example), they are considered being in absolute mode (sixth interval, here), not in relative mode even if \mySaxvariable contains notes in relative mode. Philippe -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/NR-1.1.2%2C-transpose%3A-obscure-sentence-tp33068532p33070246.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NR 1.1.2, transpose: obscure sentence
Il 03/01/2012 09:03, flup2 ha scritto: Hello, Here's the way I understand it (but I may be wrong, of course). Imagine you wrote a alto saxophone part, but you notated all in real sounds. So, following your example below, it should be notated in A. My understanding of transposing instruments is, for example: score is notated in C but it sounds as A. You may use the \transpose command this way : \new Staff \transpose c a \mySaxvariable Shouldn't it be the opposite? \traspose a c Unless you meant to say that notes are entered in C. But I wouldn't call it real sounds. I'm quite confused about transposition... As you may know, alto sax transpose one sixth lower, you must thus raise it by the same interval. But, in relative mode, the distance between c and a would only be a third, not a sixth. So, when you define the transposition interval with two notes, (c and a in this example), they are considered being in absolute mode (sixth interval, here), not in relative mode even if \mySaxvariable contains notes in relative mode. Philippe Thanks Philippe, this is clear but the first sentence still looks obscure to me :) How would you rephrase it? Its argument is the part that maybe is not so straightforward: The relative conversion will not affect \transpose, \chordmode or \relative sections in its argument. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NR 1.1.2, transpose: obscure sentence
Federico Bruni fedelogy at gmail.com writes:
NR 1.1.2
Transpose, Known issues and warnings
The relative conversion will not affect \transpose, \chordmode or
\relative sections in its argument. To use relative mode within
transposed music, an additional \relative must be placed inside \transpose.
As I understand it, this simply means that
\relative c' { a b c \transpose a c {d e f} a b c}
is the same thing as
{
\relative c' { a b c}
\transpose a c {d e f}
\relative {a b c}
}
and the same if we replace \transpose with \chordmode
Also, I believe it means that in
\relative c' {a b d \relative g' {a b c} }
the g' is not relative to the d' obtained from the action of the first
relative, but instead is an absolute pitch.
HTH,
Carl
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Re: NR 1.1.2, transpose: obscure sentence
Il 03/01/2012 18:26, Carl Sorensen ha scritto:
Federico Brunifedelogyat gmail.com writes:
NR 1.1.2
Transpose, Known issues and warnings
The relative conversion will not affect \transpose, \chordmode or
\relative sections in its argument. To use relative mode within
transposed music, an additional \relative must be placed inside \transpose.
As I understand it, this simply means that
\relative c' { a b c \transpose a c {d e f} a b c}
is the same thing as
{
\relative c' { a b c}
\transpose a c {d e f}
\relative {a b c}
}
and the same if we replace \transpose with \chordmode
Also, I believe it means that in
\relative c' {a b d \relative g' {a b c} }
the g' is not relative to the d' obtained from the action of the first
relative, but instead is an absolute pitch.
HTH,
Carl
Yes, it helped a lot :)
Thanks!
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NR 1.1.2, transpose: obscure sentence
I'm translating the Notation Reference and I found a sentence that I can't understand (I've never used \transpose). NR 1.1.2 Transpose, Known issues and warnings The relative conversion will not affect \transpose, \chordmode or \relative sections in its argument. To use relative mode within transposed music, an additional \relative must be placed inside \transpose. The second sentence is clear (it has been explained before). The first sentence not much to me. Can you make an example? Thanks, Federico ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
