Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all

2011-03-03 Thread James Lowe 
Hello,

I have tried, I mean REALLY tried, I've spent the last hour putting in
random numbers and trying to fathom the 'logic' of the
staff-staff-affinity-markup-staff-staff-staff-yourhavinalarf-staff
spacing. 

It really is just too confusing, the descriptions need at the very least
some @lilypond (maybe this will now be possible with Graham's recent
lilybook checkin that I can help improve this for others who MUST also be
scratching their heads), but for now...

I have a two score blocks in my .ly file and the structure is:



\header {}

\paper {}

MusicMain = {}

MusicCoda = {}

\score {
  \MusicMain
}

\score {
  \MusicCoda
}

---

I have no \layout {}

All I want, and it isn't a lot to ask ;) is a bigger gap between the last
line MusicMain and the first line of MusicCoda without interfering (that
much if possible) with the space within each individual \score itself.
That's it.

All I end up doing is spreading both systems out with no extra gap in
between the two.

So can someone tell me (and they don't have to tell me numbers or tell me
where to put the variable - I get that bit) WHICH flippin'
staff-staff-thingy-dooby variable I am supposed to use?

Or have I read this wrong entirely and these spacing variables don't do
what  I think they do.

In which case I am sorry.

James





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Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all

2011-03-03 Thread Janek Warchoł 
2011/3/3 James Lowe :
> Hello,
>
> I have tried, I mean REALLY tried, I've spent the last hour putting in
> random numbers and trying to fathom the 'logic' of the
> staff-staff-affinity-markup-staff-staff-staff-yourhavinalarf-staff
> spacing.
>
> It really is just too confusing, the descriptions need at the very least
> some @lilypond (maybe this will now be possible with Graham's recent
> lilybook checkin that I can help improve this for others who MUST also be
> scratching their heads), but for now...
>
> I have a two score blocks in my .ly file and the structure is:
>
> 
>
> \header {}
>
> \paper {}
>
> MusicMain = {}
>
> MusicCoda = {}
>
> \score {
>  \MusicMain
> }
>
> \score {
>  \MusicCoda
> }
>
> ---
>
> I have no \layout {}
>
> All I want, and it isn't a lot to ask ;) is a bigger gap between the last
> line MusicMain and the first line of MusicCoda without interfering (that
> much if possible) with the space within each individual \score itself.
> That's it.
>
> All I end up doing is spreading both systems out with no extra gap in
> between the two.
>
> So can someone tell me (and they don't have to tell me numbers or tell me
> where to put the variable - I get that bit) WHICH flippin'
> staff-staff-thingy-dooby variable I am supposed to use?

Just off the top of my head - maybe score-system-spacing
#'basic-distance is what you need to change?

HTH,
Janek

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Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all

2011-03-04 Thread Phil Holmes 



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- Original Message - 
From: "Janek Warchoł" 

To: "James Lowe" 
Cc: "lilypond-user" 
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all


2011/3/3 James Lowe :
> So can someone tell me (and they don't have to tell me numbers or tell 
> me

> where to put the variable - I get that bit) WHICH flippin'
> staff-staff-thingy-dooby variable I am supposed to use?



Just off the top of my head - maybe score-system-spacing
#'basic-distance is what you need to change?



HTH,
Janek


I'd agree that's what it should be.  But it doesn't seem to work.  I think 
that's a bug, and it could be argued it's a regression, since you could 
space scores apart in 2.12.


James - workaround which does work:

\header {}

\paper {
score-markup-spacing #'minimum-distance = #50
}

MusicMain = { \relative c'' { c4 c c c } }

MusicCoda = { \relative c'' { b4 b b b } }

\score {
 \MusicMain
}

\markup { " " }

\score {
 \MusicCoda
}



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Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all

2011-03-04 Thread Phil Holmes 

And repeated, without my sig at the top :-(

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Holmes" 
To: "Janek Warchoł" ; "James Lowe" 


Cc: "lilypond-user" 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all



- Original Message - 
From: "Janek Warchoł" 

To: "James Lowe" 
Cc: "lilypond-user" 
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all


2011/3/3 James Lowe :
> So can someone tell me (and they don't have to tell me numbers or tell 
> me

> where to put the variable - I get that bit) WHICH flippin'
> staff-staff-thingy-dooby variable I am supposed to use?



Just off the top of my head - maybe score-system-spacing
#'basic-distance is what you need to change?



HTH,
Janek


I'd agree that's what it should be.  But it doesn't seem to work.  I think 
that's a bug, and it could be argued it's a regression, since you could 
space scores apart in 2.12.


James - workaround which does work:

\header {}

\paper {
score-markup-spacing #'minimum-distance = #50
}

MusicMain = { \relative c'' { c4 c c c } }

MusicCoda = { \relative c'' { b4 b b b } }

\score {
 \MusicMain
}

\markup { " " }

\score {
 \MusicCoda
}




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RE: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all

2011-03-04 Thread James Lowe 
Phil,

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)Sent: 04 March 2011 09:09
)To: Janek Warchoł; James Lowe
)Cc: lilypond-user
)Subject: Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all
)
)
)
)--
)Phil Holmes
)
)
)- Original Message -
)From: "Janek Warchoł" 
)To: "James Lowe" 
)Cc: "lilypond-user" 
)Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:24 PM
)Subject: Re: Nope...still don't get the new spacing variables at all
)
)
)2011/3/3 James Lowe :
)> > So can someone tell me (and they don't have to tell me numbers or
)tell
)> > me
)> > where to put the variable - I get that bit) WHICH flippin'
)> > staff-staff-thingy-dooby variable I am supposed to use?
)
)> Just off the top of my head - maybe score-system-spacing
)> #'basic-distance is what you need to change?
)
)> HTH,
)> Janek
)
)I'd agree that's what it should be.  But it doesn't seem to work

Oh thanks so much for clarifying this and it wasn't just me going mad :)

I did write that last email rather late and I was a bit tired (which is never a 
good combination to write emails), so I probably did come across a bit terse, 
for that I am sorry.

I'll play about with the suggestions given so far. Thanks again,

James

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