Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-10 Thread Mike Solomon

On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Mike Solomon m...@mikesolomon.org wrote:

 On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 2013/12/7 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Mike, are you still responsible for this or how will new Pondings be
 included?
 
 Pondings can be added by anyone who has push access (and if someone
 without it makes a patch, having it pushed by someone should be a
 no-brainer).  David is adding one now:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3712 and i think it
 would be generally good if everyone felt responsible for pondings.
 
 It would be nice to drop three sentences in the CG about pondings
 (probably in chapter about website).
 I'd do it myself, but i already have too much to do :/
 
 best,
 Janek
 
 There probably should be an easier way to submit these things, as it is truly 
 a no-brainer.
 The only difficult step is substituting all special characters with HTML 
 codes, which is doable on a number of conversion sites.
 

Thinking out loud, perhaps one solution would be a web-based submission 
mechanism, not unlike OpenLilyLib.

Cheers
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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-10 Thread Urs Liska

Am 10.12.2013 10:21, schrieb Mike Solomon:


Thinking out loud, perhaps one solution would be a web-based 
submission mechanism, not unlike OpenLilyLib.




Surely you've already prepared material for shelter? ;-/

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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/12/7 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Mike, are you still responsible for this or how will new Pondings be
 included?

Pondings can be added by anyone who has push access (and if someone
without it makes a patch, having it pushed by someone should be a
no-brainer).  David is adding one now:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3712 and i think it
would be generally good if everyone felt responsible for pondings.

It would be nice to drop three sentences in the CG about pondings
(probably in chapter about website).
I'd do it myself, but i already have too much to do :/

best,
Janek

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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-09 Thread Paul Morris
Urs Liska wrote
 Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do!

I use LilyPond for alternative music notation systems like Clairnote:
http://clairnote.org/
http://clairnote.org/sheet-music/

and TwinNote (which was my previous focus):
http://clairnote.org/twinnote/
http://clairnote.org/twinnote/sheet-music/

I don't know if this qualifies for a ponding since it is a marginal use case
and I suppose there's a rationale for keeping the focus on more
mainstream/established uses.  On the other hand, it does illustrate the
great flexibility and extensibility of LilyPond.

-Paul



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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-09 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 2013/12/7 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 Mike, are you still responsible for this or how will new Pondings be
 included?
 
 Pondings can be added by anyone who has push access (and if someone
 without it makes a patch, having it pushed by someone should be a
 no-brainer).  David is adding one now:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3712 and i think it
 would be generally good if everyone felt responsible for pondings.
 
 It would be nice to drop three sentences in the CG about pondings
 (probably in chapter about website).
 I'd do it myself, but i already have too much to do :/
 
 best,
 Janek

There probably should be an easier way to submit these things, as it is truly a 
no-brainer.
The only difficult step is substituting all special characters with HTML codes, 
which is doable on a number of conversion sites.

Cheers,
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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-09 Thread Urs Liska

Am 10.12.2013 04:01, schrieb Paul Morris:

Urs Liska wrote

Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do!

I use LilyPond for alternative music notation systems like Clairnote:
http://clairnote.org/
http://clairnote.org/sheet-music/

and TwinNote (which was my previous focus):
http://clairnote.org/twinnote/
http://clairnote.org/twinnote/sheet-music/

I don't know if this qualifies for a ponding since it is a marginal use case
and I suppose there's a rationale for keeping the focus on more
mainstream/established uses.  On the other hand, it does illustrate the
great flexibility and extensibility of LilyPond.

-Paul




I wouldn't want to decide this, but both should surely qualify for a 
link on the What people did gallery on the website.


Urs

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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-07 Thread Daniel Rosen
On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Urs Liska 
u...@openlilylib.orgmailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

Am 06.12.2013 22:51, schrieb SoundsFromSound:

Urs Liska wrote


Hi,



What is the official definition of a ponding?





http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-04/msg00533.html

A website that uses LilyPond somehow...

How about this? Seems kind of a big deal to me. :-P
http://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Score
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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-07 Thread Urs Liska

Am 07.12.2013 16:07, schrieb Daniel Rosen:
On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org 
mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:



Am 06.12.2013 22:51, schrieb SoundsFromSound:

Urs Liska wrote

Hi,


What is the official definition of a ponding?




http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-04/msg00533.html


A website that uses LilyPond somehow...

How about this? Seems kind of a big deal to me. :-P
http://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Score


Definitely!

Mike, are you still responsible for this or how will new Pondings be 
included?
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lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-06 Thread Urs Liska

Hi,

I always was subconciously aware of the fact that there are quite few 
and repeated Pondings on the lilypond.org entry page.
Now I found them in the LilyPond Git repository and noticed that there 
really are _only three_ different items!


Come on, it's not possible that the LilyPond community has so little to 
offer in terms of projects.

Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do!

Urs

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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-06 Thread SoundsFromSound
Urs Liska wrote
 Hi,
 
 I always was subconciously aware of the fact that there are quite few 
 and repeated Pondings on the lilypond.org entry page.
 Now I found them in the LilyPond Git repository and noticed that there 
 really are _only three_ different items!
 
 Come on, it's not possible that the LilyPond community has so little to 
 offer in terms of projects.
 Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do!
 
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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-06 Thread Urs Liska

Am 06.12.2013 22:51, schrieb SoundsFromSound:

Urs Liska wrote

Hi,


What is the official definition of a ponding?




http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-04/msg00533.html
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Re: lilypond.org Pondings

2013-12-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all,

 Come on, it's not possible that the LilyPond community has so little to offer 
 in terms of projects.
 Step out of the dark and tell the world what we do!

Tomorrow, MSU's Home For the Holidays spectacular will include around over 
330 musicians singing over 25 minutes of Lilypond-engraved music (composed 
and/or arranged by yours truly).

I also gave a kick-butt Lilypond sales pitch at the composition seminar I 
taught this afternoon — the professors and students were extremely impressed 
with the output, the algorithmic possibilities, and some of the tricks I 
showed them (like polymetrics).

K.
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Pondings

2013-02-01 Thread Joshua Armenta
Hello Lilyponders,

I'd like to submit something for the Pondings section of the website. Is
this still being actively updated?

Josh Armenta

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Composer, Conductor, Scholar  Performer
Masters of Music Candidate
The Peabody Institute of the Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore, MD
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Re: Pondings

2013-02-01 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 1 févr. 2013, at 22:24, Joshua Armenta josharme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Lilyponders,
 
 I'd like to submit something for the Pondings section of the website. Is 
 this still being actively updated?
 
 Josh Armenta
 
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 Josh Armenta
 Composer, Conductor, Scholar  Performer
 Masters of Music Candidate
 The Peabody Institute of the Johns Hopkins University
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Sure!
Just send it to me.

Cheers,
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Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
Hey LilyPond users,

Just a note to let you know that the Pondings column is now live on 
lilypond.org!  If you refresh the page, you'll see two announcements, each of 
which is in two languages.  For the time being we're posting all content, 
regardless of language, on the homepage.  We'll be putting a mechanism in place 
soon to be able to diffuse multilingual content automatically to the 
appropriate pages.

Send me your pondings so that I can post them!  People are more likely to 
download the software if they see that we're a lively community that is getting 
LilyPond-typeset music out into the world.

Cheers,
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Re: Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2012/5/7 m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com:
 Hey LilyPond users,
 Just a note to let you know that the Pondings column is now live on 
 lilypond.org!

Thank you, but it works only on the English page (i.e. if your
browser's first language is set to English).

Greetlings, Hraban

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Re: Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/5/7 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net:
 2012/5/7 m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com:
 Hey LilyPond users,
 Just a note to let you know that the Pondings column is now live on 
 lilypond.org!

 Thank you, but it works only on the English page (i.e. if your
 browser's first language is set to English).

That's because translators still have to update their versions of the
front page.

The problem I see, on the other hand, is that no matter how many times
I refresh the page, I always see only the two English tweets.

-- 
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com

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Re: Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 7 mai 2012, at 10:02, Francisco Vila wrote:

 2012/5/7 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net:
 2012/5/7 m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com:
 Hey LilyPond users,
 Just a note to let you know that the Pondings column is now live on 
 lilypond.org!
 
 Thank you, but it works only on the English page (i.e. if your
 browser's first language is set to English).
 
 That's because translators still have to update their versions of the
 front page.
 
 The problem I see, on the other hand, is that no matter how many times
 I refresh the page, I always see only the two English tweets.
 

I just pushed the translations into the code base - they'll take some time to 
surface on the webpage.  Sorry for the misinformation.

Cheers,
MS


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Re: Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread David Kastrup
m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes:

 On 7 mai 2012, at 10:02, Francisco Vila wrote:

 2012/5/7 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net:
 2012/5/7 m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com:
 Hey LilyPond users,
 Just a note to let you know that the Pondings column is now live
 on lilypond.org!
 
 Thank you, but it works only on the English page (i.e. if your
 browser's first language is set to English).
 
 That's because translators still have to update their versions of the
 front page.
 
 The problem I see, on the other hand, is that no matter how many times
 I refresh the page, I always see only the two English tweets.
 

 I just pushed the translations into the code base - they'll take some
 time to surface on the webpage.  Sorry for the misinformation.

I repeat my suggestion to use the same pondings on every page, filtered
through _all_ of the languages in the browser preferences.  The page
choice itself is based on the _first_ supported language.

-- 
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Re: Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread Urs Liska

Am 07.05.2012 10:09, schrieb David Kastrup:

m...@apollinemike.comm...@apollinemike.com  writes:


On 7 mai 2012, at 10:02, Francisco Vila wrote:


2012/5/7 Henning Hraban Rammhra...@fiee.net:

2012/5/7 m...@apollinemike.comm...@apollinemike.com:

Hey LilyPond users,
Just a note to let you know that the Pondings column is now live
on lilypond.org!

Thank you, but it works only on the English page (i.e. if your
browser's first language is set to English).

That's because translators still have to update their versions of the
front page.

The problem I see, on the other hand, is that no matter how many times
I refresh the page, I always see only the two English tweets.


I just pushed the translations into the code base - they'll take some
time to surface on the webpage.  Sorry for the misinformation.

I repeat my suggestion to use the same pondings on every page, filtered
through _all_ of the languages in the browser preferences.  The page
choice itself is based on the _first_ supported language.

And I really stronly suggest, that - in addition to discussing the 
technical aspects - people think about submitting entries to Mike.
I can't imagine that there aren't quite a few 'tweetable' projects out 
there.
And I would consider it a very contraproductive 'statement' if it would 
remain a list of only two projects ...


Best
Urs

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Re: Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2012/5/7 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de:

 And I really stronly suggest, that - in addition to discussing the technical
 aspects - people think about submitting entries to Mike.
 I can't imagine that there aren't quite a few 'tweetable' projects out
 there.
 And I would consider it a very contraproductive 'statement' if it would
 remain a list of only two projects ...

Would you tweet about a small LilyPond song score in a church magazine?
That’s one of my regular uses, and I consider it too minor.

My other main use are song sheets/booklets for my private pleasure,
and since they contain mostly copyrighted songs, I can’t publish them,
unfortunately.
And I guess a lot of other users have similar problems – how much
sense makes a tweet about some unspectacular internal use of LilyPond?

Greetlings, Hraban

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Re: Pondings

2012-05-07 Thread Urs Liska
I don't think we should filter out anything below a Bärenreiter publication ;-)

The point is to show what Lilypond is good and valuable for.

So I'd say (but I'm not responsible for this):
Anything that is in some way public (and possibly even linkable) qualifes 
immediately.
Private use may also be useful for this purpose.
If you can say: my church choir can sing better from LilyPond scores, it's a 
perfect advertisment for downloading lilypond, isn't it?
And I'd estimate a statement like 'I use LilyPond for my analyzes because I can 
use style sheets to mark my results' also a valuable contribution.
But as mentioned, I'm not responsible for this, so (all out there) get in touch 
with Mike ...

Best
Urs
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Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net schrieb:

2012/5/7 Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de:

 And I really stronly suggest, that - in addition to discussing the technical
 aspects - people think about submitting entries to Mike.
 I can't imagine that there aren't quite a few 'tweetable' projects out
 there.
 And I would consider it a very contraproductive 'statement' if it would
 remain a list of only two projects ...

Would you tweet about a small LilyPond song score in a church magazine?
That’s one of my regular uses, and I consider it too minor.

My other main use are song sheets/booklets for my private pleasure,
and since they contain mostly copyrighted songs, I can’t publish them,
unfortunately.
And I guess a lot of other users have similar problems – how much
sense makes a tweet about some unspectacular internal use of LilyPond?

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Pondings

2012-04-30 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
Hey LilyPond users,

On the LilyPond website's upper righthand corner, we'll be starting in a few 
days a Pondings column.  This column will house a rotating cast of 
tweet-sized messages about LilyPond-related projects.  Anyone can submit a 
Ponding, and I encourage you to do so!

Three ground rules:

1)  Keep it pertinent.  A ponding needs to be something that makes LilyPond 
look good - a concert featuring LilyPond typeset works, pedagogy about 
LilyPond, published articles/theses, conference about LilyPond, blog about 
LilyPond, a website that uses LilyPond somehow, etc..
2)  Keep it profanity-free.
3)  Keep it informational.  No calls to action (i.e. come see concert X, donate 
to tour Y) aside from click here to read more or check it out.  This does 
not mean that a linked site cannot have donation buttons, ticket sales, or be 
housed on a ticket/donation site (i.e. Ticketmaster, Kickstarter).  But the 
content of the tweet and linked material should provide information and 
generally create a positive vibe around LilyPond.

I'm in charge of maintaining this corner, so send me your Pondings (anything in 
valid HTML is fine - make sure its tweet-sized) and I'll put them up on the 
site!

Cheers,
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Pondings

2012-04-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
Hey LilyPond users,

On the LilyPond website's upper righthand corner, we'll be starting in a few 
days a Pondings column.  This column will house a rotating cast of 
tweet-sized messages about LilyPond-related projects.  Anyone can submit a 
Ponding, and I encourage you to do so!

Three ground rules:

1)  Keep it pertinent.  A ponding needs to be something that makes LilyPond 
look good - a concert featuring LilyPond typeset works, pedagogy about 
LilyPond, published articles/theses, conference about LilyPond, blog about 
LilyPond, a website that uses LilyPond somehow, etc..
2)  Keep it profanity-free.
3)  Keep it informational.  No calls to action (i.e. come see concert X, donate 
to tour Y) aside from click here to read more or check it out.  This does 
not mean that a linked site cannot have donation buttons, ticket sales, or be 
housed on a ticket/donation site (i.e. Ticketmaster, Kickstarter). But the 
content of the tweet and linked material should provide information and 
generally create a positive vibe around LilyPond.

I'm in charge of maintaining this corner, so send me your Pondings (anything in 
valid HTML is fine - make sure its tweet-sized) and I'll put them up on the 
site!

Cheers,
MS
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