Re: Professional LilyPond users?

2007-11-02 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2007/11/1, Dominic Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The reason I use LaTeX is that I know LaTeX very well as a typesetting
> engine for mathematical documents and therefor I´m used to it. However
> LaTeX isn´t too comfortable for this, but it works. I´m very
> interested in trying ConTeXt -- I hope, I´ll find the time to have a
> try.

see http://wiki.contextgarden.net (/LilyPond)

ConTeXt can do everything what LaTeX does WRT math. It just uses a
completely different layout approach - you don't use document classes
but define your layout yourself. Most features that are in usual LaTeX
packages are in ConTeXt's core, and some more in additional modules.
So the interface is much more coherent.
But of course ConTeXt is a moving target (at least WRT newest
features) and lacks printed documentation. At the moment the big move
to LuaTeX binds most of the core developers' time.

> The main strength of using a system like LaTeX compared to a DTP
> software is that one can write scripts to manage the whole creation
> process. I didn´t want to do this with InDesign or something like
> that.

You can also control ID or QXP with scripts, there are several
possibilities, on OSX I use Python with the appscript module (Apple
Events) to remote control ID; on WinXP I used Python with win32com
(COM API); for an other workflow I create text files with ID tags or
XML files and import those into ID. You can do similar stuff with QXP
(XPress tags, perhaps also XML).

Sorry, it gets more and more OT here... ;-)

> Do you know if there is a way to get PDF/X3-compatible files out of
> ConTeXt? With LaTeX, I didn´t manage this. [PDF/X3 is a standard for
> PDF files needed in pre-press.]

We should discuss such on TeX-D-L or NTG-Context.
AFAIK that's not a (mis)feature of LaTeX or ConTeXt, but of pdfTeX.
You can convert a TeX PDF into PDF/X with Acrobat Pro, though. Perhaps
it's possible to include the ICC profiles and additional information
with some pdfTeX primitives, but AFAIK nobody yet managed to create a
standards compliant PDF/X-3 yet. In fact, you seldom need one, because
songbooks are normally black&white...

Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: Professional LilyPond users?

2007-11-01 Thread Hugo Ribeiro
I have interest to know your system. I've been using Lilypond-book for a 
while to create books with music examples. Maybe your system may ease my 
life...

Hugo

Dominic Neumann escreveu:

Additionally I wrote a system (with Perl+Catalyst ...) for managing
the creation of songbooks (with lilypond-book and LaTeX).


2007/11/1, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Am 2007-11-01 um 06:53 schrieb Dominic Neumann:


I use LilyPond for commercial projects. I typeset songbooks and song
sheets primarily for church use.

Me similar: I'm typesetting an Unitarian church magazine that
features one song in every issue (LilyPond PDF placed in InDesign
document) and just publishing a songbooklet (LilyPond & ConTeXt).

(This I do mostly honorarily, but I'm a professional media designer
and normally use InDesign and for some special tasks TeX.)


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Re: Professional LilyPond users?

2007-11-01 Thread fiëé visuëlle

Am 2007-11-01 um 21:57 schrieb Dominic Neumann:


Additionally I wrote a system (with Perl+Catalyst ...) for managing
the creation of songbooks (with lilypond-book and LaTeX).


Looking at your homepage I see that you're "much more professional"  
WRT music publishing than me. ;-)


I don't know what your system is able to do, but I find ConTeXt's  
LilyPond bridge more comfortable than lilypond-book:
I simply use ConTeXt's project structure: each song is one  
"component" file, each songbook is one "product" file, collected in a  
"project" and fed by one "environment" (LaTeX: style class) for all.  
A component can be used by several products (similar to LaTeX's  
\include).
The lilypond code is just embedded as a block in the text files, like  
e.g. MetaPost graphics. In LaTeX you'd call that an environment.
ConTeXt's "texexec" script calls TeX, LilyPond, GhostScript and what  
else is needed. It also tracks which LilyPond snippet has changed and  
must get re-rendered.
Hm, perhaps I should try a database backend for storing my songs...  
need one for my new website anyway... ;-)


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Re: Professional LilyPond users?

2007-11-01 Thread Dominic Neumann
Additionally I wrote a system (with Perl+Catalyst ...) for managing
the creation of songbooks (with lilypond-book and LaTeX).


2007/11/1, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am 2007-11-01 um 06:53 schrieb Dominic Neumann:
>
> > I use LilyPond for commercial projects. I typeset songbooks and song
> > sheets primarily for church use.
>
> Me similar: I'm typesetting an Unitarian church magazine that
> features one song in every issue (LilyPond PDF placed in InDesign
> document) and just publishing a songbooklet (LilyPond & ConTeXt).
>
> (This I do mostly honorarily, but I'm a professional media designer
> and normally use InDesign and for some special tasks TeX.)
>
>
> Greetlings from Lake Constance
> ---
> fiëé visuëlle
> Henning Hraban Ramm
> http://www.fiee.net
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Re: Professional LilyPond users?

2007-11-01 Thread fiëé visuëlle

Am 2007-11-01 um 06:53 schrieb Dominic Neumann:


I use LilyPond for commercial projects. I typeset songbooks and song
sheets primarily for church use.


Me similar: I'm typesetting an Unitarian church magazine that  
features one song in every issue (LilyPond PDF placed in InDesign  
document) and just publishing a songbooklet (LilyPond & ConTeXt).


(This I do mostly honorarily, but I'm a professional media designer  
and normally use InDesign and for some special tasks TeX.)



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http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)




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Re: Professional LilyPond users?

2007-10-31 Thread Dominic Neumann
I use LilyPond for commercial projects. I typeset songbooks and song
sheets primarily for church use.

Dominic


2007/11/1, notesetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I'm just wondering (out of simple curiosity) if there are individuals in this
> forum or elsewhere who are using LilyPond to engrave commercial projects.
> I'm new to LilyPond but thus far I like what I see. I have entertained the
> thought of offering LilyPond engraving as a service (after I become much
> more proficient with it) sometime in the future and wonder if there is
> anyone currently using this wonderful software in a commercial capacity.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
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Professional LilyPond users?

2007-10-31 Thread notesetter

I'm just wondering (out of simple curiosity) if there are individuals in this
forum or elsewhere who are using LilyPond to engrave commercial projects.
I'm new to LilyPond but thus far I like what I see. I have entertained the
thought of offering LilyPond engraving as a service (after I become much
more proficient with it) sometime in the future and wonder if there is
anyone currently using this wonderful software in a commercial capacity.

Thanks,

Dave
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View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/Professional-LilyPond-users--tf4728783.html#a13521352
Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



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