Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
Hi all, What I'd like to do is modify the standard files so you can just tell lilypond what sort of header you'd like - orchestral, band, whatever - without the fuss of people of "other traditions" having to have personal modifications. It would also be great to have the ability to define header properties on the fly! Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes 2008/8/24 Maarten Deen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thanks, that's exactly what I need (and no, I had no idea to look there). I expect it will be overwritten when I do an upgrade? Just to make a mental note to edit it again when I do. If you modify the titling-init source file, it will be overwritten. If you include the modified \paper definition in _your_ ly score, as demonstrated in my former mail, it will remain unchanged (that's the cool part ;-) Thanks. I'll note all that too. (As for asking nicely on the list, it does depend on luck ... I've mentioned it here before, asking "how do I do it?", and got nowhere...) What I'd like to do is modify the standard files so you can just tell lilypond what sort of header you'd like - orchestral, band, whatever - without the fuss of people of "other traditions" having to have personal modifications. Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
Maarten Deen wrote: Lilypond has as standard setting that the instrument is put centered below the title, subtitle, etc. But I'm used to the first page having the intrument set at the left side of the page (where Poet is placed) and only for subsequent pages the instrument is set top center. In fact, I've been looking at my scores and all have this setup. Can this be done in lilypond? Having the instrument on the left side of the page on the first page only? Staff.instrumentName works quite a bit like this, i.e. show on the left of the first system only on the first page. e.g. \set Staff.instrumentName = "Violin" will result in Violin to the left of the first system next to the violin's staff. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
On Aug 24, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 24. August 2008 schrieb Maarten Deen: Valentin Villenave wrote: It's not so hard, really. Just copy the appropriate definition from the source code (the relevant file is titling-init.ly), and redefine Thanks, that's exactly what I need (and no, I had no idea to look there). I expect it will be overwritten when I do an upgrade? Just to make a mental note to edit it again when I do. Actually, you can copy that definition to your own .ly file (either each of your files, or you create one "stylesheet" containing all your customizations, which you then include into all your .ly files). I just usually use the \header fields piece or poet for the instrument. These fields are both on the left already. Paul Scott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 24. August 2008 schrieb Maarten Deen: > Valentin Villenave wrote: > > It's not so hard, really. Just copy the appropriate definition from > > the source code (the relevant file is titling-init.ly), and redefine > > Thanks, that's exactly what I need (and no, I had no idea to look there). > I expect it will be overwritten when I do an upgrade? Just to make a mental > note to edit it again when I do. Actually, you can copy that definition to your own .ly file (either each of your files, or you create one "stylesheet" containing all your customizations, which you then include into all your .ly files). Cheers, Reinhold - -- - -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung "Jung-Wien", http://www.jung-wien.at/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIscPGTqjEwhXvPN0RAv/uAJ9cY6jownZlN2VkM012cjwKrcp7ngCeMEJP JK8QDs71t31BGG12QNe1i9g= =af4L -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
2008/8/24 Maarten Deen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks, that's exactly what I need (and no, I had no idea to look there). > I expect it will be overwritten when I do an upgrade? Just to make a mental > note to edit it again when I do. If you modify the titling-init source file, it will be overwritten. If you include the modified \paper definition in _your_ ly score, as demonstrated in my former mail, it will remain unchanged (that's the cool part ;-) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/8/24 Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Maarten Deen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Can this be done in lilypond? Having the instrument on the left side of the page on the first page only? You need to rewrite the code that produces the header. I keep on intending to do it, but alas the problem is always finding time ... It's not so hard, really. Just copy the appropriate definition from the source code (the relevant file is titling-init.ly), and redefine it. Until we step up and do some coding (or pay for others to do it for us), lilypond won't address our needs that well. Note I'm not complaining - that's just the way Free Software works ... Oh, please don't cry. Most of the time all you need to do is ask nicely on the list. Here's the code you want (and please note that i am _not_ a coder at all, just a musician; all I did is add _one_ percent character in the definition): Thanks, that's exactly what I need (and no, I had no idea to look there). I expect it will be overwritten when I do an upgrade? Just to make a mental note to edit it again when I do. Regards, Maarten ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
2008/8/24 Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Maarten Deen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes
>> Can this be done in lilypond? Having the instrument on the left side of
>> the page on the first page only?
>
> You need to rewrite the code that produces the header. I keep on intending
> to do it, but alas the problem is always finding time ...
It's not so hard, really. Just copy the appropriate definition from
the source code (the relevant file is titling-init.ly), and redefine
it.
> Until we step up and do some coding (or pay for others to do it for us),
> lilypond won't address our needs that well. Note I'm not complaining -
> that's just the way Free Software works ...
Oh, please don't cry. Most of the time all you need to do is ask
nicely on the list. Here's the code you want (and please note that i
am _not_ a coder at all, just a musician; all I did is add _one_
percent character in the definition):
\header {
instrument = tagada
}
\paper {
bookTitleMarkup = \markup {
\override #'(baseline-skip . 3.5)
\column {
\fill-line { \fromproperty #'header:dedication }
\override #'(baseline-skip . 3.5)
\column {
\huge \bigger \bold
\fill-line {
\bigger \fromproperty #'header:title
}
\fill-line {
\large \smaller \bold
\bigger \fromproperty #'header:subtitle
}
\fill-line {
\smaller \bold
\fromproperty #'header:subsubtitle
}
\fill-line {
%\fromproperty #'header:poet %HERE!
{ \large \bold \fromproperty #'header:instrument }
\fromproperty #'header:composer
}
\fill-line {
\fromproperty #'header:meter
\fromproperty #'header:arranger
}
}
}
}
}
\relative c {c d e f }
Cheers,
Valentin
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Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > > The problem is that most of the people who actually do the work with > lilypond, while they want it to be "the best tool for producing printed > music", they're European orchestral musicians steeped in the European > orchestral tradition, and their traditions are at odds with yours and > mine. > lilypond can be viewed as PRE-producing music, not really producing. You use the output of lilypond, as the input to another (free or paying) software. The choice of this software depends on what exactly you want to do/modify. In fact, lilypond itself is composed of 2 softwares, lilypond and GS, which use the output of lilypond. Surely, you can then set up a pipeline of how many softs you want, each one being specialized for a particular task. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Putting-%27instrument%27-on-the-left-side-of-the-page-tp19131449p19132607.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Maarten Deen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Lilypond has as standard setting that the instrument is put centered below the title, subtitle, etc. But I'm used to the first page having the intrument set at the left side of the page (where Poet is placed) and only for subsequent pages the instrument is set top center. In fact, I've been looking at my scores and all have this setup. So does pretty much all the music I use ... indeed I think about the only music I use that has the instrument centred is that produced by lilypond... Can this be done in lilypond? Having the instrument on the left side of the page on the first page only? You need to rewrite the code that produces the header. I keep on intending to do it, but alas the problem is always finding time ... The problem is that most of the people who actually do the work with lilypond, while they want it to be "the best tool for producing printed music", they're European orchestral musicians steeped in the European orchestral tradition, and their traditions are at odds with yours and mine. Until we step up and do some coding (or pay for others to do it for us), lilypond won't address our needs that well. Note I'm not complaining - that's just the way Free Software works ... Regards, Maarten Regards, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Putting 'instrument' on the left side of the page
Lilypond has as standard setting that the instrument is put centered below the title, subtitle, etc. But I'm used to the first page having the intrument set at the left side of the page (where Poet is placed) and only for subsequent pages the instrument is set top center. In fact, I've been looking at my scores and all have this setup. Can this be done in lilypond? Having the instrument on the left side of the page on the first page only? Regards, Maarten ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
