Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
This seems a bit related:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-auto/2014-04/msg00064.html

And this:
http://notat.io/viewtopic.php?t=170

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Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Brian Barker

At 19:23 16/11/2016 +0100, Joram Noeck wrote:
Still, I would not over-interpret Behind Bars. If Gould states it 
explicitly: ok, but the examples are also done with some program, I 
guess. In case there is a detail she does not care enough, there can 
be cases where she accepts the program's default output without 
saying that other solutions are necessarily bad or wrong.


I replied earlier - but, as so often, my message was not posted by 
the list. I think David Sumbler is misreading Gould. As I see it, the 
illustration he mentions on page 10 is intended just to show that the 
semibreve is slightly wider horizontally than a black notehead - the 
point Gould has just made in the text. Her actual examples (there is 
one at the bottom of page 36) seems to show the left-alignment that 
he criticises.


Brian Barker


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Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread tisimst
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Noeck [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n196717...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> My aesthetic feeling would like to centre-align them.
>

MuseScore 2.0.3 does this. I personally don't find the left-alignment
bothersome and find that it gives more natural continuity to the
left-to-right notion of time management. I can definitely see the
center-alignment aesthetic, though.


> Still, I would not over-interpret Behind Bars. If Gould states it
> explicitly: ok, but the examples are also done with some program, I
> guess. In case there is a detail she does not care enough, there can be
> cases where she accepts the program's default output without saying that
> other solutions are necessarily bad or wrong.
>

That "some program" is Sibelius, so there's much to be taken with a grain
of salt.

--
Abraham




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Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
Hi,

I think we had some discussion about this on this list in the last 5 (?)
years.

My aesthetic feeling would like to centre-align them.

Still, I would not over-interpret Behind Bars. If Gould states it
explicitly: ok, but the examples are also done with some program, I
guess. In case there is a detail she does not care enough, there can be
cases where she accepts the program's default output without saying that
other solutions are necessarily bad or wrong.

If I can find the old discussion, I will come back, but I am lacking the
right keywords at the moment.

Best,
Joram

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RE: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
HI David,

But if you want to override it:

<<
  {
\once \override Voice.NoteColumn.force-hshift = #0.1 % value by trial and 
error
d'4 b'2.\rest
  }
  \\
  { b1 }
>>

Andrew



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RE: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi David,

I would have thought this is correct.

Andrew



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