Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final note (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different version) http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates the same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more pictures or versions. Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols please let me know :) Greetings, Nils Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some idea of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which source is it? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:40:15 + Owain Sutton m...@owainsutton.co.uk wrote: On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final note (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different version) http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates the same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more pictures or versions. Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols please let me know :) Greetings, Nils Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some idea of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which source is it? If going to the root of this URL does not help I don't know. Google image search. I searched through mensural music (and medieval) for exactly these things. Strange looking or nice looking things in notation (without the usual Ars Subtilior Heart-Shape Notation) Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
It appears to be the opening Kyrie of the Josquin's Missa Beata Virgine, ca 1510. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Josquin_Missa_BV_Kyrie.jpg I believe music printing was a thriving enterprise by then, so it's unlikely to be (completely) hand scribed. Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Nils Gey den...@nilsgey.de wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:40:15 + Owain Sutton m...@owainsutton.co.uk wrote: On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final note (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different version) http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates the same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more pictures or versions. Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols please let me know :) Greetings, Nils Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some idea of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which source is it? If going to the root of this URL does not help I don't know. Google image search. I searched through mensural music (and medieval) for exactly these things. Strange looking or nice looking things in notation (without the usual Ars Subtilior Heart-Shape Notation) Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is?
Hello, I am not sure if you are aware of this website http://www.diamm.ac.uk/index.html It contains very high resolution digital images of mensural music. You do need to register (free) but some of the images there are beautiful. James -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Nils Gey Sent: Fri 12/10/2010 21:46 To: Owain Sutton Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Unknown final note shape / object. What it is? On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:40:15 + Owain Sutton m...@owainsutton.co.uk wrote: On 21:32, Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nils Gey wrote: I stumbled upon this picture of notation and I've never seen the final note (in each voice, the right page voices have a slightly different version) http://anaigeon.free.fr/mes_facs/fsjosq.jpg From the position it must be a longa, the fermata over it indictates the same. Best visible on the top left version is that there is indeed the right-handed stem from a longa at the end of this symbol. Has anyone seen this in a different context? I would like to see more pictures or versions. Btw. if you know any other strange or seldom used notation symbols please let me know :) Greetings, Nils Probably just a scribal quirk - the incomplete illuminations give some idea of how prestigious this volume was (or was intended to be). Which source is it? If going to the root of this URL does not help I don't know. Google image search. I searched through mensural music (and medieval) for exactly these things. Strange looking or nice looking things in notation (without the usual Ars Subtilior Heart-Shape Notation) Nils ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
