Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:04:23 +0300
schrieb Dmytro O. Redchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Real mark will appear above chords (you wish them to be in
 between?), so you may try text marks look like real mark.
 
 I have no collisions with 2.11.42.
 
 Try to change #'minimum-Y-extent for chords?

Ah, ok. I'm using 2.10.33 . I'll try the change you propose.

BTW: You are replying to me off-list. It's generally better to reply to
the list as any tip will educate others.

Seb.


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
Use ^\markup {} instead of \mark \markup ...

2008/10/9 Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:06:27 -0700
 schrieb Patrick Horgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 \paper { annotate-spacing = ##t }

 Wow, that's impressing. To be honest, lilypond is one of the strongest
 OSS projects i've seen in the last years. Kudos to everyone involved!

 But my original issue is still open:

 In the following example the \mark collides with chords and notes.

 
   \chords { c1 c }
   \new PianoStaff 
 \new Staff = upper {
   \relative c'' {
 c16 \mark \markup \bold Test g a b r2.
 \mark \markup \bold LongTest c16 g a b r2.
   }
   \addlyrics { la la la la la la la la }
 }
 \new Staff = lower {
   \relative c'' {
 c4 r2.
 c4 r2.
   }
 }
   
 

 I'd like to have the first note, the chord and the \mark left-aligned
 with \mark in the middle and vertical space between them reasonable.

 How can I get that?

 Sebastian.


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Luc


Bastl2 wrote:
 
  And it is a real
 \mark: There should be written Intro or Verse. So I think thats the
 way to go, I just have to adjust the spacing, but dont know how.
 
did U try something like 

\override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
-Eluze
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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
You can try to use #'minimum-Y-extent :


  \chords { c1 c }
  \new PianoStaff 
\new Staff = upper {
  \relative c'' {
c16 ^\markup { \bold Test } g a b r2.
c16 ^\markup { \bold LongTest } a b r2.
  }
  \addlyrics { la la la la la la la la }
}
\new Staff = lower {
  \relative c'' {
c4 r2.
c4 r2.
  }
}
  

\layout {
  \context {
\ChordNames
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-3 . 3)
  }
}


(and the same for TextScript context)


2008/10/9 Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:06:27 -0700
 schrieb Patrick Horgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 \paper { annotate-spacing = ##t }

 Wow, that's impressing. To be honest, lilypond is one of the strongest
 OSS projects i've seen in the last years. Kudos to everyone involved!

 But my original issue is still open:

 In the following example the \mark collides with chords and notes.

 
   \chords { c1 c }
   \new PianoStaff 
 \new Staff = upper {
   \relative c'' {
 c16 \mark \markup \bold Test g a b r2.
 \mark \markup \bold LongTest c16 g a b r2.
   }
   \addlyrics { la la la la la la la la }
 }
 \new Staff = lower {
   \relative c'' {
 c4 r2.
 c4 r2.
   }
 }
   
 

 I'd like to have the first note, the chord and the \mark left-aligned
 with \mark in the middle and vertical space between them reasonable.

 How can I get that?

 Sebastian.


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/10/9 Dmytro O. Redchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 You can try to use #'minimum-Y-extent :
[...]

 (and the same for TextScript context)
Oops, sorry, not the same. Like this:
[...]
  \new PianoStaff 
\new Staff = upper {
  \relative c'' {
\override TextScript #'staff-padding = #7
[...]

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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:06:27 -0700
schrieb Patrick Horgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 \paper { annotate-spacing = ##t }

Wow, that's impressing. To be honest, lilypond is one of the strongest
OSS projects i've seen in the last years. Kudos to everyone involved!

But my original issue is still open:

 In the following example the \mark collides with chords and notes.
 
  
   \chords { c1 c }
   \new PianoStaff 
 \new Staff = upper { 
   \relative c'' {
 c16 \mark \markup \bold Test g a b r2.
 \mark \markup \bold LongTest c16 g a b r2.
   }
   \addlyrics { la la la la la la la la }
 }
 \new Staff = lower { 
   \relative c'' {
 c4 r2.
 c4 r2.
   }
 }
   
   
 
 I'd like to have the first note, the chord and the \mark left-aligned
 with \mark in the middle and vertical space between them reasonable.
 
 How can I get that?

Sebastian.


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/9 Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Ah, ok. I'm using 2.10.33 . I'll try the change you propose.

Hi Sebastian,

Most of the collision problems have been fixed in the 2.11 series,
which is now *very* stable (as of the 62nd release!) and is about to
turn into our new 2.12 stable branch.

I can't blame you for using an old version, but I'm impressed to see
everybody here helping you and giving you advices while none at all
would be needed if you were using a newer version.

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:36:11 +0300
schrieb Dmytro O. Redchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Use ^\markup {} instead of \mark \markup ...

Had that before, looks even uglier (collides also). And it is a real
\mark: There should be written Intro or Verse. So I think thats the
way to go, I just have to adjust the spacing, but dont know how.

Thanks, Sebastian.


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:41:02 +0200
schrieb Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2008/10/9 Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Ah, ok. I'm using 2.10.33 . I'll try the change you propose.
 
 Hi Sebastian,
 
 Most of the collision problems have been fixed in the 2.11 series,
 which is now *very* stable (as of the 62nd release!) and is about to
 turn into our new 2.12 stable branch.
 
 I can't blame you for using an old version, but I'm impressed to see
 everybody here helping you and giving you advices while none at all
 would be needed if you were using a newer version.

I dont like compiling/installing stuff myself. I just use the
stable binary packages for my distro, in this case ubuntu.

I'd be happy to have up to date lilypond packages for ubuntu. Perhaps
there are unofficial repositories, or would debian unstable work?

I lost so much lifetime fiddling around with missing dependencies that
I finally rather let out some features but easily 'apt-get upgrade' once
in a while.

Sebastian.


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/9 Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I dont like compiling/installing stuff myself. I just use the
 stable binary packages for my distro, in this case ubuntu.

Compiling and installing are two very different things. Especially
when your program comes with a well-written installer/uninstaller by
default.
LilyPond evolves very fast (two or three development releases a
month), so we can hardly have package maintainers for every major
distro.

Besides, LilyPond used to require very specific implementations of
Guile, pango, etc., that couldn't be found in the repos, so the
developers decided to provide a ready-to-use bundle, containing all
dependencies and patches.

 I'd be happy to have up to date lilypond packages for ubuntu. Perhaps
 there are unofficial repositories, or would debian unstable work?

Don't know, wouldn't try. Anyway, even debian unstable doesn't have a
recent enough version.

 I lost so much lifetime fiddling around with missing dependencies that
 I finally rather let out some features but easily 'apt-get upgrade' once
 in a while.

I can definitely understand the fear of losing lifetime, but our point
is precisely to include *all* required dependencies in the installer
(except maybe freetype, that is on every distro anyway). So:
- it doesn't get broken by apt-get,
- it's installed cleanly in *one* single directory,
- it comes with an uninstaller,
- it can install itself either in /usr/local or in your home directory
(this way you're sure it doesn't mess with your other packages).

Like you, I *never* ever install anything without my package manager;
LilyPond is the only exception, because the latest features and
bugfixes are always just _way_ too cool :-)

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-09 Thread Paul Scott
Sebastian Menge wrote:
 Am Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:41:02 +0200
 schrieb Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   
 2008/10/9 Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Ah, ok. I'm using 2.10.33 . I'll try the change you propose.
   
 Hi Sebastian,

 Most of the collision problems have been fixed in the 2.11 series,
 which is now *very* stable (as of the 62nd release!) and is about to
 turn into our new 2.12 stable branch.

 I can't blame you for using an old version, but I'm impressed to see
 everybody here helping you and giving you advices while none at all
 would be needed if you were using a newer version.
 

 I dont like compiling/installing stuff myself. I just use the
 stable binary packages for my distro, in this case ubuntu.

 I'd be happy to have up to date lilypond packages for ubuntu. Perhaps
 there are unofficial repositories, or would debian unstable work?

 I lost so much lifetime fiddling around with missing dependencies that
 I finally rather let out some features but easily 'apt-get upgrade' once
 in a while.
   
In addition to what Valentin said,  There are only two commands you need
to use the GUB versions of Lily.

uninstall-lilypond

and

sh lilypond-2.11.61-1.linux-x86.sh

(61-1 is the latest version)

There has not been a Debian package for quite a while since the GUB's
are so easy to install.  I run Debian unstable.

Perhaps someone will make another package when 2.12 is released but then
any improvements will not be available until another stable version of
Lily is released.

Paul Scott


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-08 Thread Patrick Horgan

Sebastian Menge wrote:

BTW: Does anyone know the latex-package layouts (as introduced in the
latex companion)? It renders the layout of a page with all properties
(margins etc) displayed by lines and text. Something similar would be
awful for lilypond. I always feel like groping in the dark with all
those properties and spacing etc.
  

I'm guessing someone else already replied to this, but if not:

\paper { annotate-spacing = ##t }


does what you want, I think.

Patrick


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