Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-02 Thread Simon Albrecht 

Am 02.04.2017 um 17:41 schrieb Cynthia Karl:

Is there a better way?


I started off reading the digests as well. But since I discovered that 
Thunderbird can sort messages by thread, I much prefer receiving single 
messages, viewing them in this very sensible ordering and replying to 
individual messages, using the mechanism Wol already explained 
(highlight the part you want to quote, or if nothing is highlighted, 
have all the message quoted).
Also Thunderbird allows writing both plain text and formatted e-mail, 
choosing which one to use (plain-text being preferable here on the 
list), using filters to automatically sort each mailing list’s e-mails 
into a dedicated folder, 

I can recommend it.
But I know that all this might not apply to other environments.

Yours, Simon

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Replying to the digest, was Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-02 Thread David Wright 
On Sun 02 Apr 2017 at 10:41:22 (-0500), Cynthia Karl wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:39:23 -0700 (MST)
> > From: tisimst <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com>
> > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> > Subject: Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond
> > Message-ID:
> > <caczy+cyhqk7nltgehm7fzjlppxkbzdw5q-oohaatorsu63o...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Son_V [via Lilypond] <
> > ml-node+s1069038n201838...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> @Abraham
> >> Thanks, You're gentle.
> >> But... if nabble is not the correct way, where should I post?
> >> Remember, I just googled for "Lilypond forum" and I got nabble.
> >> 
> > 
> > There's nothing wrong with using Nabble, but you must not have actually
> > subscribed to the lilypond-user mailing list:
> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user. I suggest you do so
> > (does Nabble not ask you if you're subscribed to the respective list
> > anymore? It used to...).
> > 
> > Either way, instead of clicking on "Reply", first click on "More v" and you
> > should see the option "Reply to author". Click that one instead and it will
> > automatically add the quoted text from the post you're going to comment on,
> > then you can add your response below it (after trimming any parts that
> > aren't directly related to your response, of course).
> 
> That might work in your world, but not in mine.  I get the lilypond user 
> digest on a mac.  There is no “More v” or “Reply to author”.  I have to click 
> on reply, change the subject line, and delete all the messages in the digest 
> except the one I’m replying to.  Is there a better way?

A lot of "if"s follow.

If you get the digest as a long email of continuous text, it's likely
that each item is preceded by a header line like (yours)
 Message-ID: <5e13dfc7-8fa0-490f-98ae-e37ecdef5...@mac.com>
I know you can see it because you've quoted it above; that might
be different for other people.
If you paste the <...> string into a reply-to line like (mine)
 In-Reply-To: <5e13dfc7-8fa0-490f-98ae-e37ecdef5...@mac.com>
that will at put your message in the correct place in the thread.
That's if you can see/edit the headers; not every client can.

If you get the digest in the other form, where messages are in
attachments (and their attachments are attached, not scrubbed), eg

  1 lilypond-user Digest, Vol 173, Issue 5 [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.5K]
  2 Today's Topics (6 messages)[text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.3K]
  3       [multipa/digest, 7bit, 44K]
  4 ├─>Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond [message/rfc822, 7bit, 3.2K]
  5 ├─>Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond [message/rfc822, 7bit, 1.1K]
  6 ├─>Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond [message/rfc822, 7bit, 3.8K]
  7 ├─>Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond [message/rfc822, 7bit, 1.2K]
  8 ├─>Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond [message/rfc822, 7bit, 4.1K]
  9 └─>Drawing wavy line across the bars  [message/rfc822, 7bit, 30K]
 10   └─>[multipa/related, 7bit, 29K]
 11 ├─>  [multipa/alternativ, 7bit, 2.6K]
 12 │ ├─> [text/plain, 7bit, utf-8, 1.0K]
 13 │ └─>[text/html, quoted, utf-8, 1.4K]
 14 └─>1.png [image/png, base64, 26K]
 15 Digest Footer  [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.1K]

you might find that you can open and then reply to the appropriate
attachment, in which case the In-Reply-To: line might get filled in
automatically.

Unfortunately, none of this might work. The world is full of
broken email clients, including some of the most popular.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-02 Thread Wols Lists 
On 02/04/17 16:41, Cynthia Karl wrote:
>> Either way, instead of clicking on "Reply", first click on "More v" and you
>> > should see the option "Reply to author". Click that one instead and it will
>> > automatically add the quoted text from the post you're going to comment on,
>> > then you can add your response below it (after trimming any parts that
>> > aren't directly related to your response, of course).

> That might work in your world, but not in mine.  I get the lilypond user 
> digest on a mac.  There is no “More v” or “Reply to author”.  I have to click 
> on reply, change the subject lin

Dunno whether it works in your world, but (Thunderbird) if I select the
text I want to reply to, THEN click on "reply" or whatever, it just
quotes the selected text.

Cheers,
Wol

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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-02 Thread Cynthia Karl 

> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:39:23 -0700 (MST)
> From: tisimst <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com>
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond
> Message-ID:
>   <caczy+cyhqk7nltgehm7fzjlppxkbzdw5q-oohaatorsu63o...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Son_V [via Lilypond] <
> ml-node+s1069038n201838...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> 
>> @Abraham
>> Thanks, You're gentle.
>> But... if nabble is not the correct way, where should I post?
>> Remember, I just googled for "Lilypond forum" and I got nabble.
>> 
> 
> There's nothing wrong with using Nabble, but you must not have actually
> subscribed to the lilypond-user mailing list:
> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user. I suggest you do so
> (does Nabble not ask you if you're subscribed to the respective list
> anymore? It used to...).
> 
> Either way, instead of clicking on "Reply", first click on "More v" and you
> should see the option "Reply to author". Click that one instead and it will
> automatically add the quoted text from the post you're going to comment on,
> then you can add your response below it (after trimming any parts that
> aren't directly related to your response, of course).

That might work in your world, but not in mine.  I get the lilypond user digest 
on a mac.  There is no “More v” or “Reply to author”.  I have to click on 
reply, change the subject line, and delete all the messages in the digest 
except the one I’m replying to.  Is there a better way?

Regards,
Pat
> 
> Best,
> Abraham
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread tisimst 
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Son_V [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n201838...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> @Abraham
> Thanks, You're gentle.
> But... if nabble is not the correct way, where should I post?
> Remember, I just googled for "Lilypond forum" and I got nabble.
>

There's nothing wrong with using Nabble, but you must not have actually
subscribed to the lilypond-user mailing list:
https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user. I suggest you do so
(does Nabble not ask you if you're subscribed to the respective list
anymore? It used to...).

Either way, instead of clicking on "Reply", first click on "More v" and you
should see the option "Reply to author". Click that one instead and it will
automatically add the quoted text from the post you're going to comment on,
then you can add your response below it (after trimming any parts that
aren't directly related to your response, of course).

Best,
Abraham




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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Son_V 
@Abraham
Thanks, You're gentle.
But... if nabble is not the correct way, where should I post? 
Remember, I just googled for "Lilypond forum" and I got nabble.

PS I hope to find that damned and wonderful 'interpreter' or what can it be
called, and post again it here, because it's nice.



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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread tisimst 
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Son_V [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n201836...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> @Abraham
> Sorry I wasn't aware of this problem. I just googled for "Lilypond forum"
> and I got nabble. And seeing "Replay" on the side of someone's answer, I
> thought that it was clear who I was answering.
> PS "@Abraham" is good or should I use something else? I don't know...  :-)
>

@Abraham is just fine, no worries there. And I used to do the same thing
when I used the Nabble interface to the mailing list, but I almost never go
there now, relying on emails. So, if you would also include the person's
quoted text (as you see how I'm doing with your comments above), that would
help us understand _what_ you are responding to (i.e., give us some context
for your response). That's almost more important than _who_ you are
responding to, but include that too ;-)

Best,
Abraham




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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Son_V 
@Abraham
Sorry I wasn't aware of this problem. I just googled for "Lilypond forum"
and I got nabble. And seeing "Replay" on the side of someone's answer, I
thought that it was clear who I was answering.
PS "@Abraham" is good or should I use something else? I don't know...  :-)



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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread tisimst 
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Son_V [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n201834...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> A shot in the dark could give the light to point at the score.  :-)
> But it wasn't enough, sorry.
> I will need to find where in hell have I saved that link. I will post that
> link if I succeed.
>

Yes, please do.

Also, it appears you are only using the Nabble interface to the forum
(which is fine), but since we can't readily see which person you are
responding to, would you mind quoting the person you are directly referring
to in the body of your messages? That would help reduce our confusion, too.
Thanks!

Best,
Abraham




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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Son_V 
A shot in the dark could give the light to point at the score.  :-)
But it wasn't enough, sorry.
I will need to find where in hell have I saved that link. I will post that
link if I succeed.



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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread David Nalesnik 
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Son_V  wrote:
> Hi all,
> some days ago someone put a link for a web site where it was possible to
> make software request and obtain a Lilypond output. I forgotten the link,
> but it was liked a lot by one or more posters here, so I hope that I can
> receive that link, if anyone can help.
> Thanks.
>

A shot in the dark here: if not lilybin.com, then Abjad?
(https://github.com/Abjad/abjad)

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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Son_V 
Ehm, if I remember well, a pdf output from a .ly file.



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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Phil Holmes 
- Original Message - 
From: "Son_V" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 4:39 PM
Subject: An 'interpreter' for lilypond



Hi all,
some days ago someone put a link for a web site where it was possible to
make software request and obtain a Lilypond output. I forgotten the link,
but it was liked a lot by one or more posters here, so I hope that I can
receive that link, if anyone can help.
Thanks.



What do you mean by "a Lilypond output"?  Lilypond code or a PDF?

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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Son_V 
Thanks, but sorry... it seems to me it's not.



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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Guy Stalnaker 
Sorry, but no, I don't recall such a thing, only lilybin.com, etc.

I did a fair bit of back-and-forth with Martin about his lilybin.php script
because his effort was using some process from his Android tablet for
editing, and seeing the output, of lilypond source. I was very interested
in doing that. I had an editor that did lilypond syntax highlighting,
DroidEdit, but no way to submit the file for compiling. Martin told me
about the Termux application that creates a sandboxed terminal environment
with a package manager to install things like php, curl, vi/vim, or emas.

With that SvenA provided an outline of a php script to submit a lilypond
source file to lilybin.com using curl. Lilybin.com will compile the source
and return a ID for the results. Curl can then be used a second time to get
either pdf or midi results. The php script automates the curl submission
and getting the results.

So, now I can save a composition from Dropbox to the Android tablet
Downloads folder, see it Termux, edit with emacs, then use lilybin.php and
compile, then termux-open to view it, and upload back to Dropbox. This meas
that I need not tote my laptop with me everywhere and since the Android has
far better battery life, that is a good thing.

Guy

On Apr 1, 2017 11:03 AM, "Son_V"  wrote:

> Thanks, but it is not. But because you write:
> > The emails you refer to also provided a means by which one can use a
> > command line application like
> > curl to send a .ly document to lilybin.com and get back, in the terminal
> > environment, the .pdf or
> > .midi output.
> I hope you were one of the readers. I remember (IF I remember well) that
> there was something like a menu where to choose fro various commands and
> obtain an output.
>
>
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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread tisimst 
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Son_V [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n201825...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> Thanks, but it is not. But because you write:
> > The emails you refer to also provided a means by which one can use a
> command line application like
> > curl to send a .ly document to lilybin.com and get back, in the
> terminal environment, the .pdf or
> > .midi output.
> I hope you were one of the readers. I remember (IF I remember well) that
> there was something like a menu where to choose fro various commands and
> obtain an output.
>

Perhaps this thread is what you're looking for?

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-03/msg00711.html




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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Son_V 
Thanks, but it is not. But because you write:
> The emails you refer to also provided a means by which one can use a
> command line application like
> curl to send a .ly document to lilybin.com and get back, in the terminal
> environment, the .pdf or
> .midi output.
I hope you were one of the readers. I remember (IF I remember well) that
there was something like a menu where to choose fro various commands and
obtain an output.



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2017-04-01 Thread Son_V 
Sorry, no. The web page I'm searching was able to make an complex output from
some commands. Surely I've saved that page, but because I use more than a PC
God only knows in what I saved it.
Yours is just a LP interface.
I can only hope that the people who read the message are reading mine now.
Thanks anyway.




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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread Guy Stalnaker 
Son_V,

You want lilybin.com. Enter lilypond code on the left, click Preview to see
the engraved score on the right. Enable log to see the lilypond compile
output. If there is an error in the lilypond source that results in a Fatal
error compile condition, the result is usually a "Communications Error" and
NO error log output -- well, in my experience anyway.

The emails you refer to also provided a means by which one can use a
command line application like curl to send a .ly document to lilybin.com
and get back, in the terminal environment, the .pdf or .midi output.

Martin Tarenskeen was the primar developer of a .php application one can
run in a terminal session to do this without running curl at a prompt. I
have attached to this email the last version of his lilybin.php script.

On Apr 1, 2017 10:39 AM, "Son_V"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> some days ago someone put a link for a web site where it was possible to
> make software request and obtain a Lilypond output. I forgotten the link,
> but it was liked a lot by one or more posters here, so I hope that I can
> receive that link, if anyone can help.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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Re: An 'interpreter' for lilypond

2017-04-01 Thread tisimst 
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Son_V [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n201820...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> some days ago someone put a link for a web site where it was possible to
> make software request and obtain a Lilypond output. I forgotten the link,
> but it was liked a lot by one or more posters here, so I hope that I can
> receive that link, if anyone can help.
> Thanks.
>

lilybin.com?




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