Re: Beam question

[Mike Dean]

Original thought: [d g d g] (wound up trying to attach a beam to a quarter
rest...)
Improved: d [g d g]
Correct: d[ g d g]



Mike Dean

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Mike Dean  wrote:

> Thanks, Simon!
> Not much of an improvement from my original thought of putting square
> brackets around the group of notes, but it got me closer to the truth
>
> Mike Dean
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Simon Albrecht 
> wrote:
>
>> On 21.12.2017 19:38, Mike Dean wrote:
>>
>>> (Thought: would putting square braces around the last three do it?
>>>
>>
>> That isn’t the right way to think of it. The [] aren’t placed _around_
>> the notes they apply to, but rather attached to the first and last notes as
>> _post events_ (just like slurs, ties, fingering, articulations and many
>> other things). That’s why one writes
>> d[ g d g]
>> and not
>> d [g d g]
>>
>> Best, Simon
>>
>
>
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Re: Beam question

[Mike Dean]

Thanks, Simon!
Not much of an improvement from my original thought of putting square
brackets around the group of notes, but it got me closer to the truth

Mike Dean

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Simon Albrecht 
wrote:

> On 21.12.2017 19:38, Mike Dean wrote:
>
>> (Thought: would putting square braces around the last three do it?
>>
>
> That isn’t the right way to think of it. The [] aren’t placed _around_ the
> notes they apply to, but rather attached to the first and last notes as
> _post events_ (just like slurs, ties, fingering, articulations and many
> other things). That’s why one writes
> d[ g d g]
> and not
> d [g d g]
>
> Best, Simon
>
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Re: Beam question

[Simon Albrecht]

On 21.12.2017 19:38, Mike Dean wrote:

(Thought: would putting square braces around the last three do it?


That isn’t the right way to think of it. The [] aren’t placed _around_ 
the notes they apply to, but rather attached to the first and last notes 
as _post events_ (just like slurs, ties, fingering, articulations and 
many other things). That’s why one writes

d[ g d g]
and not
d [g d g]

Best, Simon

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Re: Beam question

[Ben]

On 12/21/2017 1:38 PM, Mike Dean wrote:

Inline image 1
Well, here's hoping that this will clarify...
The simultaneous voice ends on beat 2 in the left hand, and it's those 
four eighth notes I desire to beam
(Thought: would putting square braces around the last three do it? 
Yes, now it is clearin reading the section I didn't get the 
correct mental picture...Thanks!)





\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"

 <<
  \clef treble
  \key c \major
  \time 3/4
  \relative c''

  { d,8[ g d g fs a]  d, g d g }
   \\
   \relative c'
   { 4 q   q }>>

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Re: Beam question

[Ben]

On 12/21/2017 1:38 PM, Mike Dean wrote:

Inline image 1
Well, here's hoping that this will clarify...
The simultaneous voice ends on beat 2 in the left hand, and it's those 
four eighth notes I desire to beam
(Thought: would putting square braces around the last three do it? 
Yes, now it is clearin reading the section I didn't get the 
correct mental picture...Thanks!)


Mike Dean



Hi Mike,

I just threw this code together to show you that default beaming 
/should/ be pretty much what you want :) Glad you figured it out! Have a 
great day!


Yes you can always manually beam with the [ ]

(see attached)

\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"
  \clef treble
  \key c \major
  \time 3/4

<<
  \relative c''
  { d,8 g d g fs a  d, g d g }
   \\
   \relative c'
   { 4 q   q }>>



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Re: Beam question

[Mike Dean]

[image: Inline image 1]
Well, here's hoping that this will clarify...
The simultaneous voice ends on beat 2 in the left hand, and it's those four
eighth notes I desire to beam
(Thought: would putting square braces around the last three do it? Yes, now
it is clearin reading the section I didn't get the correct mental
picture...Thanks!)

Mike Dean

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Ben  wrote:

> On 12/21/2017 1:16 PM, Mike Dean wrote:
>
> Ben: That serves me right for ripping a text out of context and forgetting
> to put an "8" after the first note in the snippet...
> \version "2.19.80"
> \language "english"
>   \clef treble
>   \key c \major
>   *\time 3/4*
> << { d,8 g d g fs a | d, g d g }
>\\
>{  q  | q }>>
>
> Mike Dean
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Ben  wrote:
>
>> On 12/21/2017 1:05 PM, Mike Dean wrote:
>>
>> In a piece with a double backslash to denote voices
>>
>>   \clef treble
>>   \key c \major
>>   \time 3/4
>> << { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
>>\\
>>{  q  | q }>>
>>
>> The construct  ends after beat 2, leaving the four eighth notes unbeamed.
>> is there something in the manual beaming syntax that I can use to beam the
>> four notes?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>> I'm afraid your code does not compile due to failed bar checks. I don't
>> see any eighth notes.
>> Can you re-check the code? :) They are all quarter notes in 3/4 time.
>>
>> \version "2.19.80"
>> \language "english"
>>   \clef treble
>>   \key c \major
>>   *\time 3/4*
>> << { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
>>\\
>>{  q  | q }>>
>>
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>
> Mike,
>
> Aside from the bar check fails that still occur after you add the 8, I
> just removed them to work from a more clean slate...not a problem...
>
> But, what exactly do you want for beams? I can't follow you. As of now,
> there are 2 sets of 4-note-beamed eighth notes. Looks good.
>
> Where do you want the split exactly? What's the subdivision or screenshot
> of the outcome?
>
>
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Re: Beam question

[Ben]

On 12/21/2017 1:16 PM, Mike Dean wrote:
Ben: That serves me right for ripping a text out of context and 
forgetting to put an "8" after the first note in the snippet...

\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"
  \clef treble
  \key c \major
*\time 3/4*
<< { d,8 g d g fs a | d, g d g }
   \\
   {  q  | q }>>

Mike Dean

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Ben > wrote:


On 12/21/2017 1:05 PM, Mike Dean wrote:

In a piece with a double backslash to denote voices

  \clef treble
  \key c \major
  \time 3/4
<< { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
       \\
       {  q  | q }>>

The construct  ends after beat 2, leaving the four eighth notes
unbeamed. is there something in the manual beaming syntax that I
can use to beam the four notes?





Hi Mike,
I'm afraid your code does not compile due to failed bar checks. I
don't see any eighth notes.
Can you re-check the code? :) They are all quarter notes in 3/4 time.

\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"
  \clef treble
  \key c \major
*\time 3/4*
<< { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
   \\
   {  q  | q }>>

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Mike,

Aside from the bar check fails that still occur after you add the 8, I 
just removed them to work from a more clean slate...not a problem...


But, what exactly do you want for beams? I can't follow you. As of now, 
there are 2 sets of 4-note-beamed eighth notes. Looks good.


Where do you want the split exactly? What's the subdivision or 
screenshot of the outcome?


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Re: Beam question

[Mike Dean]

Ben: That serves me right for ripping a text out of context and forgetting
to put an "8" after the first note in the snippet...
\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"
  \clef treble
  \key c \major
  *\time 3/4*
<< { d,8 g d g fs a | d, g d g }
   \\
   {  q  | q }>>

Mike Dean

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Ben  wrote:

> On 12/21/2017 1:05 PM, Mike Dean wrote:
>
> In a piece with a double backslash to denote voices
>
>   \clef treble
>   \key c \major
>   \time 3/4
> << { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
>\\
>{  q  | q }>>
>
> The construct  ends after beat 2, leaving the four eighth notes unbeamed.
> is there something in the manual beaming syntax that I can use to beam the
> four notes?
>
>
>
>
> Hi Mike,
> I'm afraid your code does not compile due to failed bar checks. I don't
> see any eighth notes.
> Can you re-check the code? :) They are all quarter notes in 3/4 time.
>
> \version "2.19.80"
> \language "english"
>   \clef treble
>   \key c \major
>   *\time 3/4*
> << { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
>\\
>{  q  | q }>>
>
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Re: Beam question

[Ben]

On 12/21/2017 1:05 PM, Mike Dean wrote:

In a piece with a double backslash to denote voices

  \clef treble
  \key c \major
  \time 3/4
<< { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
       \\
       {  q  | q }>>

The construct  ends after beat 2, leaving the four eighth notes 
unbeamed. is there something in the manual beaming syntax that I can 
use to beam the four notes?






Hi Mike,
I'm afraid your code does not compile due to failed bar checks. I don't 
see any eighth notes.

Can you re-check the code? :) They are all quarter notes in 3/4 time.

\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"
  \clef treble
  \key c \major
*\time 3/4*
<< { d, g d g fs a | d, g d g }
   \\
   {  q  | q }>>
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