Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
That works quite nicely. Thank you!
I had been using \include satb.ly, so I had to recreate the \score
{}, but it was good practice to combine \lyrics and multiple parts to
one staff.
~Conor
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Conor,
In the particular score I am working on, I have only this one mark (it's
about 30 measures long total).
What would an example of your suggestion look like, as I can see your
concern applying down the road.
Snippet included below.
1. In both scores, the breath mark appears in all Staff contexts (because
it’s in \global, which is included in every Staff).
2. In the second score with the Mark_engraver moved to the Staff context
level, the ‘A’ rehearsal mark is above every Staff — likely not desired
behaviour.
In general, the \global variable should contain everything that you want in
every Voice — like time signatures, tonalities, etc. — and engravers should
be \consist-ed at the appropriate level to display the grobs where they are
needed/desired.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
_
\version 2.19.15
\paper {
ragged-right = ##f
}
global = {
\key d \minor
\tempo Lugubrioso 4=22
\time 4/4
s1
\time 3/4
s4*3
\breathe
\mark \default
\time 5/8
s8*5
\breathe
\time 4/4
s1
}
theNotes = {
c''1
c''2.
c''4. ~ 4
c''1
}
\markup With Mark_engraver at the Score level (= default):
\score {
\new Staff \global \theNotes
\new Staff \global \theNotes
}
\markup With Mark_engraver moved to the Staff level:
\score {
\new Staff \global \theNotes
\new Staff \global \theNotes
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Mark_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Mark_engraver
}
}
}
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Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
Conor Cook wrote Monday, February 16, 2015 5:14 PM
I had been using \include satb.ly, so I had to recreate the \score
{}, but it was good practice to combine \lyrics and multiple parts to
one staff.
Perhaps you had other reasons for recreating the \score { }, but
if it was just to add a global to every staff the satb.ly built-in
template uses the Time variable for this purpose - it is included in
every staff. Might have saved you some effort, but I've just
realised the documentation in the Learning Manual doesn't mention
this.
Trevor
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Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
Conor Cook wrote
Is it possible to place a caesura, contained in a rehearsal mark, over
every staff of a system (like in a choral score, since parts will not
be extracted)? I know that this is not how rehearsal marks are
supposed to work, so is there another way to achieve this? In an
archived thread, David Kastrup provided a \caesura variable that
involved the glyph and a breathe, but it is not exactly what I thought
I wanted (but if it is more in line with the way caesuras are meant to
be displayed, then I am happy with it, even if I need to offset it to
above the staff).
Conor,
Try this:
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Mark_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Mark_engraver
}
}
This will mean that you need to put the \mark ... in each staff you want
it to appear, though.
HTH,
Abraham
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Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
That is beautiful, both in its coding simplicity and in the final product!
Thank you!
~Conor
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Subject: Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
Conor Cook wrote
Is it possible to place a caesura, contained in a rehearsal mark, over
every staff of a system (like in a choral score, since parts will not
be extracted)? I know that this is not how rehearsal marks are
supposed to work, so is there another way to achieve this? In an
archived thread, David Kastrup provided a \caesura variable that
involved the glyph and a breathe, but it is not exactly what I thought
I wanted (but if it is more in line with the way caesuras are meant to
be displayed, then I am happy with it, even if I need to offset it to
above the staff).
Conor,
Try this:
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Mark_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Mark_engraver
}
}
This will mean that you need to put the \mark ... in each staff you want
it to appear, though.
HTH,
Abraham
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Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
Hi Conor, That is beautiful, both in its coding simplicity and in the final product! Unless you’re planning to have *all* of your marks (including \mark \default, etc.) above every staff — which is not a usual engraving convention — why not just put the caesura in a global variable that is layered into every staff? Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer www: http://www.kierenmacmillan.info email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
Kieren MacMillan wrote
Hi Conor,
That is beautiful, both in its coding simplicity and in the final
product!
Unless you’re planning to have *all* of your marks (including \mark
\default, etc.) above every staff — which is not a usual engraving
convention — why not just put the caesura in a global variable that is
layered into every staff?
Conor,
I am inclined to agree with Kieren. Manually putting the marks in EVERY
staff can be tedious and error prone, depending on how many you plan to use.
The better way is to create another voice that only contains spacer rests
with the marks at the appropriate position(s), then make it simultaneous
with a voice in each staff. That way you only have to define where the marks
are once, but it is replicated perfectly. Here's a complete example:
% SNIP
\version 2.18.2
markVoice = {
s1*3
\mark \default
s1*5
\mark \default
s1*4
}
partI = \relative c' {
\repeat unfold 13 { c1 }
}
partII = \relative c' {
\repeat unfold 13 { d1 }
}
\score {
\new ChoirStaff
\new Staff
\new Voice \markVoice
\new Voice \partI
\new Staff
\new Voice \markVoice
\new Voice \partII
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Mark_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Mark_engraver
}
}
}
% SNIP
HTH,
Abraham
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Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
Hi Conor,
In the particular score I am working on, I have only this one mark (it's
about 30 measures long total).
What would an example of your suggestion look like, as I can see your concern
applying down the road.
Snippet included below.
1. In both scores, the breath mark appears in all Staff contexts (because it’s
in \global, which is included in every Staff).
2. In the second score with the Mark_engraver moved to the Staff context level,
the ‘A’ rehearsal mark is above every Staff — likely not desired behaviour.
In general, the \global variable should contain everything that you want in
every Voice — like time signatures, tonalities, etc. — and engravers should be
\consist-ed at the appropriate level to display the grobs where they are
needed/desired.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
_
\version 2.19.15
\paper {
ragged-right = ##f
}
global = {
\key d \minor
\tempo Lugubrioso 4=22
\time 4/4
s1
\time 3/4
s4*3
\breathe
\mark \default
\time 5/8
s8*5
\breathe
\time 4/4
s1
}
theNotes = {
c''1
c''2.
c''4. ~ 4
c''1
}
\markup With Mark_engraver at the Score level (= default):
\score {
\new Staff \global \theNotes
\new Staff \global \theNotes
}
\markup With Mark_engraver moved to the Staff level:
\score {
\new Staff \global \theNotes
\new Staff \global \theNotes
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Mark_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Mark_engraver
}
}
}
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Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
Kieren, In the particular score I am working on, I have only this one mark (it's about 30 measures long total). What would an example of your suggestion look like, as I can see your concern applying down the road. ~Conor — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Conor, That is beautiful, both in its coding simplicity and in the final product! Unless you’re planning to have *all* of your marks (including \mark \default, etc.) above every staff — which is not a usual engraving convention — why not just put the caesura in a global variable that is layered into every staff? Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer www: http://www.kierenmacmillan.info email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Caesura in Rehearsal Mark over each line of system
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:32:30 -0500 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: In general, the \global variable should contain everything that you want in every Voice — like time signatures, tonalities, etc. Yes, but it's very unfortunate this does not work for \repeats when generating MIDI with \unfoldRepeats: In scores containing multiple voices, unfolding of repeats in MIDI output will only occur correctly if each voice contains fully notated repeat indications. -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
