Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill

2012-01-21 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 20 January 2012 17:40, Caio Barros  wrote:
> Yes, I understand this. But isn't the purpose of lilypond to automatize the
> position of the objects? That's why I don't have to  say to each slur, tie
> and dynamics where they should be, it's angle, if it's up or down.
> A lot of collision problems that where issued during lilypond's development
> where possible to correct manually before, but this kills the title of
> automatic music engraver that lilypond holds proudly and deservedly.

I agree.

Please report it as a collision bug to bug-lilyp...@gnu.org .
AFAICS there are several bugs involving ties but not this one
specifically.

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Xavier

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Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill

2012-01-20 Thread Caio Barros
>
> But the collision disappears if you use Keith Ohara's suggestion to force
> the tie below the note head.
>
> Yes, I understand this. But isn't the purpose of lilypond to automatize
the position of the objects? That's why I don't have to  say to each slur,
tie and dynamics where they should be, it's angle, if it's up or down.
A lot of collision problems that where issued during lilypond's development
where possible to correct manually before, but this kills the title of
automatic music engraver that lilypond holds proudly and deservedly.
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Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill

2012-01-20 Thread Patrick Karl

On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Caio Barros wrote:

> In this example is not so visible. But is there.

But the collision disappears if you use Keith Ohara's suggestion to force the 
tie below the note head.

> In smaller staff sizes it gets worse because the tie is thicker. I actually 
> saw this error in an orchestral score with very small staffs.
> 
> \version "2.14.2"
> #(set-global-staff-size 8)
> \relative g'' {
> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan a g2

No collision with:  \pitchedTrill g1_ ~ \startTrillSpan a g2
> 
> }
> 
> If you use other interval other than the second it's even more visible
> \version "2.14.2"
> \relative g'' {
> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan bes g2

No collision with:  \pitchedTrill g1_ ~ \startTrillSpan bes g2
> 
> }
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2012/1/19 Patrick Karl 
> 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:34:09 -0200
> > From: Caio Barros 
> > To: Keith OHara 
> > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> > Subject: Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
> >
> > Yes, but it's still a collision.
> 
> It looks ok at 2.14.2.  I don't see a collision.
> 
> > 2012/1/19 Keith OHara 
> >
> >> Caio Barros  gmail.com> writes:
> >>> \relative g'' {
> >>> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2
> >>> }
> >>
> >> You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head
> >>
> >> { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 }
> 
> 

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Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill

2012-01-19 Thread Caio Barros
In this example is not so visible. But is there.
In smaller staff sizes it gets worse because the tie is thicker. I actually
saw this error in an orchestral score with very small staffs.

 \version "2.14.2"

#(set-global-staff-size 8)

\relative g'' {

\pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan a g2

}


If you use other interval other than the second it's even more visible

 \version "2.14.2"

\relative g'' {

\pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan bes g2

}





2012/1/19 Patrick Karl 

>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:34:09 -0200
> > From: Caio Barros 
> > To: Keith OHara 
> > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> > Subject: Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
> >
> > Yes, but it's still a collision.
>
> It looks ok at 2.14.2.  I don't see a collision.
>
> > 2012/1/19 Keith OHara 
> >
> >> Caio Barros  gmail.com> writes:
> >>> \relative g'' {
> >>> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2
> >>> }
> >>
> >> You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head
> >>
> >> { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 }
>
>
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Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill

2012-01-19 Thread Patrick Karl

> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:34:09 -0200
> From: Caio Barros 
> To: Keith OHara 
> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
> 
> Yes, but it's still a collision.

It looks ok at 2.14.2.  I don't see a collision.

> 2012/1/19 Keith OHara 
> 
>> Caio Barros  gmail.com> writes:
>>> \relative g'' {
>>> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2
>>> }
>> 
>> You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head
>> 
>> { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 }


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Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill

2012-01-18 Thread Caio Barros
Yes, but it's still a collision.

2012/1/19 Keith OHara 

> Caio Barros  gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> > \relative g'' {
> >  \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2
> > }
>
> You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head
>
> { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 }
>
>
>
>
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Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill

2012-01-18 Thread Keith OHara
Caio Barros  gmail.com> writes:


> \relative g'' {
>  \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2
> }

You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head

{ \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 }




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Re: collision between tie and pitched trill

2008-10-25 Thread Jonathan Kulp

You forgot to attach the code!

Jon

Stefan Thomas wrote:

Dear lilypond-users,
in the below quoted example I get a collision between the tie an the trill
note.
How can I avoid this?





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