Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
On 20 January 2012 17:40, Caio Barros wrote: > Yes, I understand this. But isn't the purpose of lilypond to automatize the > position of the objects? That's why I don't have to say to each slur, tie > and dynamics where they should be, it's angle, if it's up or down. > A lot of collision problems that where issued during lilypond's development > where possible to correct manually before, but this kills the title of > automatic music engraver that lilypond holds proudly and deservedly. I agree. Please report it as a collision bug to bug-lilyp...@gnu.org . AFAICS there are several bugs involving ties but not this one specifically. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
> > But the collision disappears if you use Keith Ohara's suggestion to force > the tie below the note head. > > Yes, I understand this. But isn't the purpose of lilypond to automatize the position of the objects? That's why I don't have to say to each slur, tie and dynamics where they should be, it's angle, if it's up or down. A lot of collision problems that where issued during lilypond's development where possible to correct manually before, but this kills the title of automatic music engraver that lilypond holds proudly and deservedly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Caio Barros wrote: > In this example is not so visible. But is there. But the collision disappears if you use Keith Ohara's suggestion to force the tie below the note head. > In smaller staff sizes it gets worse because the tie is thicker. I actually > saw this error in an orchestral score with very small staffs. > > \version "2.14.2" > #(set-global-staff-size 8) > \relative g'' { > \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan a g2 No collision with: \pitchedTrill g1_ ~ \startTrillSpan a g2 > > } > > If you use other interval other than the second it's even more visible > \version "2.14.2" > \relative g'' { > \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan bes g2 No collision with: \pitchedTrill g1_ ~ \startTrillSpan bes g2 > > } > > > > > 2012/1/19 Patrick Karl > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:34:09 -0200 > > From: Caio Barros > > To: Keith OHara > > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill > > > > Yes, but it's still a collision. > > It looks ok at 2.14.2. I don't see a collision. > > > 2012/1/19 Keith OHara > > > >> Caio Barros gmail.com> writes: > >>> \relative g'' { > >>> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2 > >>> } > >> > >> You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head > >> > >> { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 } > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
In this example is not so visible. But is there. In smaller staff sizes it gets worse because the tie is thicker. I actually saw this error in an orchestral score with very small staffs. \version "2.14.2" #(set-global-staff-size 8) \relative g'' { \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan a g2 } If you use other interval other than the second it's even more visible \version "2.14.2" \relative g'' { \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan bes g2 } 2012/1/19 Patrick Karl > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:34:09 -0200 > > From: Caio Barros > > To: Keith OHara > > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill > > > > Yes, but it's still a collision. > > It looks ok at 2.14.2. I don't see a collision. > > > 2012/1/19 Keith OHara > > > >> Caio Barros gmail.com> writes: > >>> \relative g'' { > >>> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2 > >>> } > >> > >> You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head > >> > >> { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 } > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
> Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:34:09 -0200 > From: Caio Barros > To: Keith OHara > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill > > Yes, but it's still a collision. It looks ok at 2.14.2. I don't see a collision. > 2012/1/19 Keith OHara > >> Caio Barros gmail.com> writes: >>> \relative g'' { >>> \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2 >>> } >> >> You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head >> >> { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
Yes, but it's still a collision. 2012/1/19 Keith OHara > Caio Barros gmail.com> writes: > > > > \relative g'' { > > \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2 > > } > > You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head > > { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 } > > > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Collision between tie and pitched trill
Caio Barros gmail.com> writes: > \relative g'' { > \pitchedTrill g1 ~ \startTrillSpan aes g2 > } You can use '^' or '_' to force the tie above or below the note head { \pitchedTrill g''1_~ \startTrillSpan aes g''2 } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: collision between tie and pitched trill
You forgot to attach the code! Jon Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear lilypond-users, in the below quoted example I get a collision between the tie an the trill note. How can I avoid this? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user