Re: Feedback on cross stave slur
Hi Andrew, Thanks on both counts, I didn't realize there wasn't supposed to be a slur there at all. If there isn't one in Beethoven's manuscript I won't add one either. My intention is to just engrave an urtext version. You are right that A4 is just too small. I'm still not sure what to do. Actually, I already set the global magnification to 89/100 - because without it, I couldn't comfortably do the long 32rd note passages in Op.111, which I worked on earlier. I might reduce it just a bit more, so that it's smaller but at least has decent margins. I'm actually surprised that the 1st edition you pointed me to has two separate slurs over the 8.-16 and 4-8, rather than one big slur over both. If that's how Beethoven wrote it I've got a lot of fixing to do...Times like this is when I wish I had a nice high quality manuscript like I did for Op.111... Michiel Let's Deliver http://letsdeliver.com/ m...@letsdeliver.com On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi Michiel, > > The Artaria engraving of about 1819 is freely available at IMSLP. This is > very beautifully done, a model of excellence. Possibly better than finding > the MS because I suspect it contains many corrections. > > http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No.29,_Op.106_(Beethoven,_Ludwig_van) > > No slur is present over the sequence you referred to. > > If I were engraving this work, I would be doing it off this edition. The > large amount of 'air' in the edition is something I find very important. > > > Andrew > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feedback on cross stave slur
Hi Michiel, The Artaria engraving of about 1819 is freely available at IMSLP. This is very beautifully done, a model of excellence. Possibly better than finding the MS because I suspect it contains many corrections. http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No.29,_Op.106_(Beethoven,_Ludwig_van) No slur is present over the sequence you referred to. If I were engraving this work, I would be doing it off this edition. The large amount of 'air' in the edition is something I find very important. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feedback on cross stave slur
Hi Michael, The Henle Verlag edition has no slur over this section. What source are you engraving from? Aside from that if you need to shape slurs the best tool is the \shapeII function in the openlilylib library. If you need help setting it up, just mail me. Fingerings? Unless the composer wrote them in, leave them out. They are always just opinion, and always wrong! I am delighted to report that _finally_ after decades Henle is now producing various editions available either with, or without fingerings. At last. I suspect this may have come about because amusingly the new digital software from Henle allows you to install any of several or many fingering annotations for a score, (which proves my point) and also to turn off fingerings altogether. Unwittingly they provided a great service to players! My other comment relates to The Curse of A4 Paper. It's just too small. Same applies to US Letter. Your score has such narrow margins it is very hard to read. This is because A4/etc is simply too small for piano music. It is interesting to note that piano music has been printed on Klavierformat size (only available in Germany, otherwise a printers trim size) since mid 19c. There's enough room for a decent chunk of music at that size, still allowing generous margins. I do not know what can be done about this problem, except perhaps reduce the global size of everything (easily done in lilypond) but then you get into legibility problems. Although I see people on the train reading 4 point type on their phones regularly quite happily! B4 seems to be a solution to this problem, but it is a bit hard to buy. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
