Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
On 03/04/2011 10:30 AM, Colin Hall wrote:
For the record I've attached a complete source file to demonstrate how I do
chop marks.
Here's another way, with one-line rythmic staff.
dummy = \relative c {
\set squashedPosition = #0
\override NoteHead #'style = #'slash
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
\key g \major
\repeat unfold 2 { c4 c c c }
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
b2:7 e:7
a:7 d:7
}
\score {
\new ChordNames \harmonies
\new RhythmicStaff
{
\set RhythmicStaff.instrumentName = \markup { Solos }
\new Voice = rhythm \dummy
}
\layout {
\context {
\RhythmicStaff
\consists Pitch_squash_engraver
\consists Clef_engraver
\consists Key_engraver
}
} % close layout
} % close score
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Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
Hola
Now, I am not sure how to actually use this in a file. I tried just using
\include in my file and putting the \inlineMMRN R2.*4 where I want it to
appear. I ended up with 3/4 time, five empty bars with rehearsal marks at
the top of the score, followed by a repeat and six bars with the desired
indication of four bars to be repeated, followed by another repeat. And the
bars where I want the effect to render didn't. Obviously that was not as you
intended it to be used!
R2. is a full bar rest in 3/4 time (a dotted 2/4 rest that is). For
4/4 you just use R1, and multiply with the number of bars, like in
R1*8 for 8 bars.
There's still a problem though -- look at this example
#(define (whiteunder grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:vcenter #:whiteout #:pad-x 1 (ly:grob-property grob 'text
inlineMMRN = {
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRest #'layer = #-2
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRestNumber #'layer = #-1
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRestNumber #'Y-offset = #0
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRestNumber #'stencil = #whiteunder
}
solos = {
\override Score.MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #20
\bar |:
\inlineMMRN R1*4
\inlineMMRN R1*4
\bar :|
}
{
\new ChordNames \chordmode {
s1
a1*4:m7
b:m7-5
}
\new Staff {
\time 4/4
s1
\set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-alphabet
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\solos
}
}
How can we center the chord symbols above the inlineMMR's?
Also: Does anybody know how to produce the `fat bracketed' repeat bars
often used in jazz (example in the Real Book exerpt attached to Tim's
first mail in this thread)?
Jakob.
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Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
Tim McNamara wrote: I am not sure how to actually use this in a file. The multimeasure.ly has four sections; the first two are needed to define inlineMMRN, the last two give an example of using \inlineMMRN. The example I used is a rough skeleton of Blessed Relief, whose last part corresponds to your bar-repeats.pdf. So multimeasure.ly is a standalone snippet producing a pdf with 44 bars of spacer rests (up to rehearsal mark [E]) followed by 24 bars of inlineMMRN usage (held in the solos variable). All those 68 bars showed up at the top of your own pdf. You don't need these example sections in your file, just the first two: whiteunder and inlineMMRN. So either paste in just these two or comment out the last two. Then you have to apply inlineMMRN at each place you want it to be active. You ask for a multi-measure rest (big R) and let \inlineMMRN move its count down into the staff. So for 6 bars of 4/4 time you need R1*6 - like this \inlineMMRN R1*6 And for decent horizontal proportions you need to modify #'minimum-length. Cheers, Robin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
Hello, )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On )Behalf Of Robin Bannister )Sent: 04 March 2011 10:32 )To: Tim McNamara; lilypond-user lilypond-user )Subject: Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats ) )Tim McNamara wrote: ) I am not sure how to actually use this in a file. ) )The multimeasure.ly has four sections; ) the first two are needed to define inlineMMRN, ) the last two give an example of using \inlineMMRN. ) )The example I used is a rough skeleton of Blessed Relief, whose last part )corresponds to your bar-repeats.pdf. ) ) )So multimeasure.ly is a standalone snippet producing a pdf with )44 bars of spacer rests (up to rehearsal mark [E]) followed by )24 bars of inlineMMRN usage (held in the solos variable). )All those 68 bars showed up at the top of your own pdf. ) ) )You don't need these example sections in your file, just the first two: )whiteunder and inlineMMRN. )So either paste in just these two or comment out the last two. ) ) )Then you have to apply inlineMMRN at each place you want it to be )active. ) You ask for a multi-measure rest (big R) and let \inlineMMRN move its ) count down into the staff. ) )So for 6 bars of 4/4 time you need R1*6 - like this ) \inlineMMRN R1*6 ) ) )And for decent horizontal proportions you need to modify #'minimum- )length. ) Maybe an email got lost somewhere but the mails I got on this thread jumped from a 'how do I' to a 'thanks that's really helpful' without anything in between. I think whatever the outcome of this 'hack/workaround', will be really useful on the LilyPond Snippet Repository for other users. So I just didn't want this to be 'lost'. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
Original Message - From: James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com I think whatever the outcome of this 'hack/workaround', will be really useful on the LilyPond Snippet Repository for other users. So I just didn't want this to be 'lost'. James http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=753 There you go. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
Hi Tim,
I use a slash notehead on the middle line of the stave, see below.
Cheers,
Colin.
%
% Harmony
%
harmonyIntro = \chordmode
{
bf1:m |
bf1:m |
bf1:m |
c2:7 f2:7 |
}
%
% Piano music sections
%
pianoRightIntro =
{
bf df' f'2_\markup \small { L.H.} ~ a df' f'2 |
af! df' f'2 ~ g df' f'2 |
gf! df' f'2 ~ f df' f'2 |
\override NoteHead #'style = #'slash
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
bf'4 bf'4 bf'4 bf'4 |
\revert NoteHead #'style
\revert Stem #'transparent
}
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:58:26AM +, David Bobroff wrote:
On 3/3/2011 6:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
I have not been able to locate a way to do jazz style multiple bar repeats
like these for writing out chord progressions for solos. Can anyone point
me to the place in the documentation (assuming there is such a place)?
Thanks!
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Tim,
I suspect you're looking for percent repeats found in section
1.4.2 of the notation manual of the current stable release.
-David
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Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
If chop marks are the desired output, there's another way of doing it as described in the LilyPond Snippetsdocument. Just do a search on *Rhythmic slashes*. It the rs function overrides a quarter note rest for quarter note marks. You can replace the r4 with an appropriate rest for other durations. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Mar 3, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Colin Hall wrote: For the record I've attached a complete source file to demonstrate how I do chop marks. I like how those render and will have other uses for them. Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
Thanks for that, too! On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:18 PM, keith Luke wrote: If chop marks are the desired output, there's another way of doing it as described in the LilyPond Snippetsdocument. Just do a search on Rhythmic slashes. It the rs function overrides a quarter note rest for quarter note marks. You can replace the r4 with an appropriate rest for other durations. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Mar 3, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Colin Hall wrote: For the record I've attached a complete source file to demonstrate how I do chop marks. I like how those render and will have other uses for them. Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
I can't get that to compile and produce a score. Could you attach an image of
what it ends up looking like? Looking at the code I suspect it is not what I
want, but I can't tell for sure. Thanks!
On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Colin Hall wrote:
Hi Tim,
I use a slash notehead on the middle line of the stave, see below.
Cheers,
Colin.
%
% Harmony
%
harmonyIntro = \chordmode
{
bf1:m |
bf1:m |
bf1:m |
c2:7 f2:7 |
}
%
% Piano music sections
%
pianoRightIntro =
{
bf df' f'2_\markup \small { L.H.} ~ a df' f'2 |
af! df' f'2 ~ g df' f'2 |
gf! df' f'2 ~ f df' f'2 |
\override NoteHead #'style = #'slash
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
bf'4 bf'4 bf'4 bf'4 |
\revert NoteHead #'style
\revert Stem #'transparent
}
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:58:26AM +, David Bobroff wrote:
On 3/3/2011 6:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
I have not been able to locate a way to do jazz style multiple bar repeats
like these for writing out chord progressions for solos. Can anyone point
me to the place in the documentation (assuming there is such a place)?
Thanks!
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Tim,
I suspect you're looking for percent repeats found in section
1.4.2 of the notation manual of the current stable release.
-David
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Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:58 AM, David Bobroff wrote: On 3/3/2011 6:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: I have not been able to locate a way to do jazz style multiple bar repeats like these for writing out chord progressions for solos. Can anyone point me to the place in the documentation (assuming there is such a place)? Tim, I suspect you're looking for percent repeats found in section 1.4.2 of the notation manual of the current stable release. Thanks! I had looked at those and that's not what I want. The image I attached is a standard way in jazz lead sheets and big band charts for depicting many bars of a single chord (4 bars to however many)- it's not used for repeating a musical phrase, unlike a percent repeat. There is a number in the middle of the bar which indicates how many bars to repeat, with a heavy horizontal bar on either side of the number. In some cases there is a short vertical line at the outer ends of the bar, and some copyists circle the number. This style allows many bars to be depicted in very few bars, like the example which shows 24 bars in only 6 written bars. From what I've seen, there are other engraving packages that can do this particular style of repeat, but I have no idea how to code it in Lilypond. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
Tim McNamara wrote:
There is a number in the middle of the bar
which indicates how many bars to repeat,
with a heavy horizontal bar on either side of the number.
Would this do the sort of thing you're looking for?
You ask for a multi-measure rest (big R)
and let \inlineMMRN move its count down into the staff.
Cheers,
Robin#(define (whiteunder grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:vcenter #:whiteout #:pad-x 1 (ly:grob-property grob 'text
inlineMMRN = {
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRest #'layer = #-2
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRestNumber #'layer = #-1
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRestNumber #'Y-offset = #0
\once \override Score.MultiMeasureRestNumber #'stencil = #whiteunder
}
solos = {
\override Score.MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #20
\bar |:
\inlineMMRN R2.*4
\inlineMMRN R2.*4
\inlineMMRN R2.*4
\inlineMMRN R2.*4
\inlineMMRN R2.*4
\inlineMMRN R2.*4
\bar :|
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-alphabet
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
s2.*8
\mark \default
s2.*8
\mark \default
s2.*8
\mark \default
s2.*12
\mark \default
s2.*8
\mark \default
\solos
}
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Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
On Mar 3, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Colin Hall wrote: For the record I've attached a complete source file to demonstrate how I do chop marks. I like how those render and will have other uses for them. Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
On Mar 3, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Robin Bannister wrote: Tim McNamara wrote: There is a number in the middle of the bar which indicates how many bars to repeat, with a heavy horizontal bar on either side of the number. Would this do the sort of thing you're looking for? You ask for a multi-measure rest (big R) and let \inlineMMRN move its count down into the staff. Cheers, Robin Wow, that looks excellent! *Exactly* what I wanted the bars to look like. I am massively impressed with how that renders. Thanks! This is something that should get folded into the source code for Lilypond. How the heck did you know to do that (something of a rhetorical question there- the short answer being that you know a lot more about Lilypond than me). Now, I am not sure how to actually use this in a file. I tried just using \include in my file and putting the \inlineMMRN R2.*4 where I want it to appear. I ended up with 3/4 time, five empty bars with rehearsal marks at the top of the score, followed by a repeat and six bars with the desired indication of four bars to be repeated, followed by another repeat. And the bars where I want the effect to render didn't. Obviously that was not as you intended it to be used! Sorry to be dense, Lilypond is complex far beyond my very simple needs; I've learned just the tiny bit I need to do lead sheets for my jazz band. It would take me years to get through the documentation... Thanks again! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do jazz-style bar repeats
On 3/3/2011 6:23 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: I have not been able to locate a way to do jazz style multiple bar repeats like these for writing out chord progressions for solos. Can anyone point me to the place in the documentation (assuming there is such a place)? Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Tim, I suspect you're looking for percent repeats found in section 1.4.2 of the notation manual of the current stable release. -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
