Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-13 Thread Laura Conrad
 Phil == Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:

Phil I do something similar using
Phil Noteworthy. (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/) I notate
Phil using Noteworthy, export using its text format and then use a
Phil self-written program to convert to LilyPond.  The single piece
Phil of advice I would give is to try to edit the LilyPond files as
Phil little as possible - I almost never touch them directly - I
Phil put all my annotations in Noteworthy, using hidden text as a
Phil code to transfer to LilyPond.  That way, I have only a single
Phil source of data.

Phil I'm rather guessing this will be impossible with Cubase, but I
Phil think the principle is a good one.


I used to use ABC http://abcnotation.com/ that way.  I'm finding that
the %%LY strings I put into my files 10 years ago are useless or
harmful now.  So I wish I'd just declared the lilypond canonical, and
dropped the ABC after conversion.

At some point, it turned out to be easier to use a MIDI keyboard to
input lilypond directly than to go through ABC, so now I rarely use ABC
except with my old stuff or when one of my ABC using friends transcribes
something.

That being said, the fact that someone modified abc2ly to break the way
*my* ABC uses clefs (ABC isn't standardized, so there are several
dialects) is a real nuisance.  This kind of change should be discussed
somewhere.

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Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 [...] the fact that someone modified abc2ly to break the way *my*
 ABC uses clefs (ABC isn't standardized, so there are several
 dialects) is a real nuisance.  This kind of change should be
 discussed somewhere.

Bug report, please.


Werner

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Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: JCHarris Music m...@jchmusic.com

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical



Hi,

I am working a large piece with voice, dialogue, etc. (a 'musical'). I 
have been using Cubase to mock up the various music bits. Surprisingly, I 
have found the latest scoring functions to be not half bad at all. 
Unfortunately, it still has some serious shortcomings in terms of adding 
lyrics, dialogue, stage directions and so on... the stuff that has to be 
in the final score and book.


Ideally, I would love it if Cubase had features for all that stuff, but 
until such a day, I'm wondering if anyone here has experience in using 
Cubase for this sort of thing and how you handle this.


I have been looking at LilyPond, which produces marvelous looking output, 
but it looks like it would be a terror to input this large project into 
directly. Fortunately, it does import MusicXML. So I am thinking of trying 
to export from Cubase as MusicXML into LilyPond and then add the other 
lyrics, stage directions, etc. in Lilypond.


Any suggestions on doing such a workflow?



I do something similar using Noteworthy. 
(http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/)  I notate using Noteworthy, export 
using its text format and then use a self-written program to convert to 
LilyPond.  The single piece of advice I would give is to try to edit the 
LilyPond files as little as possible - I almost never touch them directly - 
I put all my annotations in Noteworthy, using hidden text as a code to 
transfer to LilyPond.  That way, I have only a single source of data.


I'm rather guessing this will be impossible with Cubase, but I think the 
principle is a good one.



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Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
JCHarris Music writes:

 I have been looking at LilyPond, which produces marvelous looking
 output

Nicest would be to integrate LilyPond with Cubase, somehow.  You could
always do a feature-request with Cubase or ask on a Cubase forum.  I'm
currently working on LilyPond integration with FL Studio.

Greetings,
Jan

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Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-12 Thread Nils Hammerfest
How is integration possible at all with the GPL?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:01:06 +0200
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:

 JCHarris Music writes:
 
  I have been looking at LilyPond, which produces marvelous looking
  output
 
 Nicest would be to integrate LilyPond with Cubase, somehow.  You could
 always do a feature-request with Cubase or ask on a Cubase forum.  I'm
 currently working on LilyPond integration with FL Studio.
 
 Greetings,
 Jan
 
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Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-12 Thread Nils
How is integration possible at all with the GPL?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:01:06 +0200
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:

 JCHarris Music writes:
 
  I have been looking at LilyPond, which produces marvelous looking
  output
 
 Nicest would be to integrate LilyPond with Cubase, somehow.  You could
 always do a feature-request with Cubase or ask on a Cubase forum.  I'm
 currently working on LilyPond integration with FL Studio.
 
 Greetings,
 Jan
 
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Re: Lilypond with Cubase/DAW for Musical

2011-04-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Nils Hammerfest writes:

 How is integration possible at all with the GPL?

By using mere aggregation.  Possibly integration is not the best
chosen word.

Jan.

 On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:01:06 +0200
 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:

 JCHarris Music writes:
 
  I have been looking at LilyPond, which produces marvelous looking
  output
 
 Nicest would be to integrate LilyPond with Cubase, somehow.  You could
 always do a feature-request with Cubase or ask on a Cubase forum.  I'm
 currently working on LilyPond integration with FL Studio.
 
 Greetings,
 Jan
 
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