Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 12:54 AM Well, here's something rough which appears to do the trick. The basic idea is that the function locates a PaperColumn that is related to both our MetronomeMark grob and an AccidentalPlacement grob. If it finds it, it calculates the extent of all the accidentals and sets X-offset based on this. Hope this helps. Let me know if you run into problems with it. That looks pretty good to me, thanks David. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
-Original Message- From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:t.dani...@treda.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 6:43 AM To: David Nalesnik Cc: Daniel Rosen; lilypond-user Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals David, you wrote Monday, April 07, 2014 12:54 AM Well, here's something rough which appears to do the trick. The basic idea is that the function locates a PaperColumn that is related to both our MetronomeMark grob and an AccidentalPlacement grob. If it finds it, it calculates the extent of all the accidentals and sets X-offset based on this. Hope this helps. Let me know if you run into problems with it. That looks pretty good to me, thanks David. Trevor +1 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
-Original Message- From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:t.dani...@treda.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:24 PM To: Daniel Rosen; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals Daniel, you wrote Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:44 PM I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying to manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols property, but to no avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property works; it's a little unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the right direction? I think you'll find all you need to know in the following section. You can't align to an accidental using this, but by using an offset from an alignment to the bar line anchor you may be able to achieve the positioning you want. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/aligning- objects#using-the-break_002dalignable_002dinterface Trevor Thanks, that should do fine as a workaround. Does anyone else agree that the behavior I'm suggesting should be the default? We've heard from Elaine Gould thanks to Brian, but she's not the end-all be-all, so I don't want to ask that this be added as a bug without some kind of consensus. DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
-Original Message-
From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:t.dani...@treda.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:24 PM
To: Daniel Rosen; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
Daniel, you wrote Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:44 PM
I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the
leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying
to manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols
property, but to no avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property
works; it's a little unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the
right
direction?
I think you'll find all you need to know in the following section. You can't
align
to an accidental using this, but by using an offset from an alignment to the
bar line anchor you may be able to achieve the positioning you want.
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/aligning-
objects#using-the-break_002dalignable_002dinterface
Trevor
I've tried this based on the page you linked me to above, but it's not working.
What am I missing here?
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\override Score.MetronomeMark.break-align-symbols = #'(key-signature)
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
DR
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Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
Daniel, you wrote April 06, 2014 3:21 PM
I've tried this based on the page you linked me to above, but it's not
working. What am I missing here?
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\override Score.MetronomeMark.break-align-symbols = #'(key-signature)
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
I'm afraid I've misled you here. Although MetronomeMark layout object
supposedly supports the break-alignable-interface, according to the IR, it
seems not to behave in the same way as RehearsalMark and BarNumber layout
objects. Sorry about that; I should have checked more carefully before making
the suggestion.
However, you may be able to obtain a satisfactory placing by overriding
self-alignment-X, eg
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\override Score.MetronomeMark.self-alignment-X = -0.3
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
This offsets the metronome mark from its default position of 0 - centered on
the left-most notehead. Unfortunately the required value will depend on the
string length provided to \tempo and the number of accidentals, so this is
strictly a poor work-around.
Maybe someone else will have a better solution.
Trevor
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Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
Hi all,
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.ukwrote:
Maybe someone else will have a better solution.
Well, here's something rough which appears to do the trick.
The basic idea is that the function locates a PaperColumn that is related
to both our MetronomeMark grob and an AccidentalPlacement grob. If it
finds it, it calculates the extent of all the accidentals and sets X-offset
based on this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you run into problems with it.
--David
\version 2.19.3
#(define align-tempo-with-accidental
(lambda (grob)
(let* ((p-col (ly:grob-parent grob X))
(sys (ly:grob-parent p-col X))
(all (ly:grob-object sys 'all-elements))
(grob-name (lambda (x) (assq-ref (ly:grob-property x 'meta) 'name)))
(pl (filter
(lambda (x) (eq? 'AccidentalPlacement (grob-name x)))
(ly:grob-array-list all)))
(pl-p-col (filter
(lambda (x) (eq? p-col (ly:grob-parent x X)))
pl)))
(if (pair? pl-p-col)
(let* ((accs (map cadr (ly:grob-object (car pl-p-col) 'accidental-grobs)))
(X-exts (map (lambda (x) (ly:grob-extent x sys X)) accs))
(un (reduce interval-union '() X-exts)))
(car un))
; Return the default.
(ly:make-simple-closure
`(,+
,(ly:make-simple-closure
(list ly:break-alignable-interface::self-align-callback))
,(ly:make-simple-closure
(list ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
{
R1 |
\override Score.MetronomeMark.X-offset = #align-tempo-with-accidental
\tempo Tempo
aes' bes'
\tempo Tempo II
as' bes' ges' fes' es' des' ces'
\tempo Tempo III
ais' bis' gis' fis' eis' dis' cis'
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Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
2014-04-05 14:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com:
Consider the following example:
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the
leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been
trying to manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols
property, but to no avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that
property works; it's a little unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me
in the right direction?
DR
I'm not sure I can help in detail...
For one shot :
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\tweak X-offset #-2.5 \tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
% or
{
R1 |
\once\override Score.MetronomeMark.self-alignment-X = #-0.3
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
HTH,
Pierre
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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
Well, yes, that is one option, but it’s not one I love for two reasons: 1) it’s
kludgy, and 2) I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I’m describing by
default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although it could be
just me).
DR
From: Pierre Perol-Schneider [mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:53 AM
To: Daniel Rosen
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
2014-04-05 14:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Rosen
drose...@gmail.commailto:drose...@gmail.com:
Consider the following example:
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost
Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying to
manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols property, but to no
avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property works; it's a little
unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the right direction?
DR
I'm not sure I can help in detail...
For one shot :
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\tweak X-offset #-2.5 \tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
% or
{
R1 |
\once\override Score.MetronomeMark.self-alignment-X = #-0.3
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
HTH,
Pierre
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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
I should also mention that aligning the MetronomeMark with the BarLine would be
fine as a workaround for now, but I can’t figure out how to do that either.
DR
From: Daniel Rosen
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:25 AM
To: 'Pierre Perol-Schneider'
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
Well, yes, that is one option, but it’s not one I love for two reasons: 1) it’s
kludgy, and 2) I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I’m describing by
default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although it could be
just me).
DR
From: Pierre Perol-Schneider [mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:53 AM
To: Daniel Rosen
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.orgmailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
2014-04-05 14:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Rosen
drose...@gmail.commailto:drose...@gmail.com:
Consider the following example:
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost
Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying to
manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols property, but to no
avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property works; it's a little
unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the right direction?
DR
I'm not sure I can help in detail...
For one shot :
\version 2.19.3
{
R1 |
\tweak X-offset #-2.5 \tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
% or
{
R1 |
\once\override Score.MetronomeMark.self-alignment-X = #-0.3
\tempo Tempo
as' bes'
}
HTH,
Pierre
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RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
At 12:44 05/04/2014 +, Daniel Rosen wrote: I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). At 14:25 05/04/2014 +, Daniel Rosen wrote: ... I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I'm describing by default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although it could be just me). No, it's not just you. For what it's worth, here's Elaine Gould (at page 183): When a tempo marking coincides with a time signature indication, align the tempo with the left edge of the time signature. When there is no new time signature, align the tempo marking with the first element of the notation (e.g. a note or accidental) after the clef and key signature. Note that when the tempo change is at the start of the bar, the marking is not placed on the barline. Brian Barker ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
-Original Message- From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:47 PM To: Daniel Rosen Subject: RE: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals At 14:25 05/04/2014 +, you wrote: ... I think that maybe LilyPond should do what I'm describing by default. The current default output looks very odd to me (although it could be just me). No, its not just you; here's Elaine Gould at page 183: When a tempo marking coincides with a time signature indication, align the tempo with the left edge of the time signature. When there is no new time signature, align the tempo marking with the first element of the notation (e.g. a note or accidental) after the clef and key signature. Note that when the tempo change is at the start of the bar, the marking is not placed on the barline. Brian Barker - privately Thanks, Brian. Since you agreed with me (off-list) that this is useful information for the list to have, I'm forwarding it to them. DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MetronomeMark aligned to accidentals
Daniel, you wrote Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:44 PM I would like the MetronomeMark to be aligned with the left edge of the leftmost Accidental (almost with the BarLine, but not quite). I've been trying to manipulate the Score.MetronomeMark.non-break-align-symbols property, but to no avail (I'm not sure I quite understand how that property works; it's a little unclear to me in the IR). Can anyone steer me in the right direction? I think you'll find all you need to know in the following section. You can't align to an accidental using this, but by using an offset from an alignment to the bar line anchor you may be able to achieve the positioning you want. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/aligning-objects#using-the-break_002dalignable_002dinterface Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
