Re: Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices

[Ahanu Banerjee]

Thank you!

-Ahanu

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022, 04:00 Paul Hodges  wrote:

> The ottava bracket needs both ends defined to appear, so the ottava
> command and its cancellation should be at the start and end of the music to
> be affected, like this:
>
>   << { \ottava 1 \repeat unfold 4 c'' \ottava 0 } \\ { \repeat unfold 4
> d,, } >>
>
> However, the command is acted on at the staff level, so both voices are
> affected as you have observed.  This is changed not by what you have tried
> doing, but by removing the engraver from the staff context and inserting it
> in the voice context so that only the voice containing the commands is
> affected, like so:
>
> \layout {
>   \context {
> \Staff
> \remove Ottava_spanner_engraver
>   }
>   \context {
> \Voice
> \consists Ottava_spanner_engraver
>   }
> }
>
> See the first snippet at
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/snippets/tweaks-and-overrides
>
> Paul
>
>
> * From: * Ahanu Banerjee 
> * To: * lilypond-user 
> * Sent: * 01/07/2022 0:24
> * Subject: * Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have two voices in one measure, on one staff, with one
> voice as "Ottava 1" and the other as "Ottava 0"? (I realise this notation
> may seem unclear, but I have a specific use case.)
>
> If I try the following, each ottava overrides the other:
>
> \version "2.23.10"
> \relative c' {
>   << { \ottava 1 \repeat unfold 4 c'' } \\ { \ottava 0 \repeat unfold 4
> d,, } >>
> }
>
> Thanks,
> -Ahanu
>
>

Re: Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices

[Paul Hodges]

The ottava bracket needs both ends defined to appear, so the ottava command and 
its cancellation should be at the start and end of the music to be affected, 
like this:


  << { \ottava 1 \repeat unfold 4 c'' \ottava 0 } \\ { \repeat unfold 4 d,, } >>


However, the command is acted on at the staff level, so both voices are 
affected as you have observed.  This is changed not by what you have tried 
doing, but by removing the engraver from the staff context and inserting it in 
the voice context so that only the voice containing the commands is affected, 
like so:



\layout {
  \context {
    \Staff
    \remove Ottava_spanner_engraver
  }
  \context {
    \Voice
    \consists Ottava_spanner_engraver
  }
}


See the first snippet at 
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/snippets/tweaks-and-overrides

Paul



 From:   Ahanu Banerjee  
 To:   lilypond-user  
 Sent:   01/07/2022 0:24 
 Subject:   Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices 



Hi, 



Is it possible to have two voices in one measure, on one staff, with one voice 
as "Ottava 1" and the other as "Ottava 0"? (I realise this notation may seem 
unclear, but I have a specific use case.)


If I try the following, each ottava overrides the other:



\version "2.23.10"
\relative c' {
  << { \ottava 1 \repeat unfold 4 c'' } \\ { \ottava 0 \repeat unfold 4 d,, } >>
}


Thanks,
-Ahanu 

Re: Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices

[William Rehwinkel]

Dear Ahanu,

There is an example ( 
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#ottava-brackets 
) in the documentation which covers this subject. Is there anything else 
about this that isn't working for you?


-William

---

{
  \clef bass
  << { 1~ q2  }
  \\
{
  r2.
  \set Staff.ottavation = #"8vb"
  \once \override Staff.OttavaBracket.direction = #DOWN
  \set Voice.middleCPosition = #(+ 6 7)
  4 ~ |
  q2
  \unset Staff.ottavation
  \unset Voice.middleCPosition
  2
}
  >>
}

On 6/30/22 19:24, Ahanu Banerjee wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to have two voices in one measure, on one staff, with 
one voice as "Ottava 1" and the other as "Ottava 0"? (I realise this 
notation may seem unclear, but I have a specific use case.)


If I try the following, each ottava overrides the other:

\version "2.23.10"
\relative c' {
  << { \ottava 1 \repeat unfold 4 c'' } \\ { \ottava 0 \repeat unfold 
4 d,, } >>

}

Thanks,
-Ahanu


--
William Rehwinkel

will...@williamrehwinkel.net
https://williamrehwinkel.net