Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-15 Thread Simon Bailey
hi,

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Carl Sorensen  wrote:
> Only with fret-diagram-verbose.  fret-diagram and fret-diagram-terse have
> syntax aimed at simplifying input for traditional uses.
> fret-diagram-verbose does away with all assumptions and lets the user have
> complete control.

makes sense, thanks. :)

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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-15 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 10/14/13 8:49 AM, "Simon Bailey"  wrote:

>
>now that makes sense. is that only possible with fret-diagram-verbose
>or can i do the same with \fret-diagram?

Only with fret-diagram-verbose.  fret-diagram and fret-diagram-terse have
syntax aimed at simplifying input for traditional uses.
fret-diagram-verbose does away with all assumptions and lets the user have
complete control.

Carl


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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Simon Bailey
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Carl Sorensen  <...SNIP...>
>>be able to put something else other than fingering in the dots. how
>>would i put R in the circle?
>
>
> \version "2.16.1"  % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond versions.
>
>
>  \markup {
>   % standard size
>   \override #'(size . 3) {
> \override #'(fret-diagram-details . (
>  (dot-color . white)
>  (finger-code . in-dot))) {
>   \fret-diagram-verbose #'((mute 6)
>(place-fret 5 3 "A")
>(place-fret 4 5 "B")
>(place-fret 3 5 "C")
>(place-fret 2 5 "D")
>(place-fret 1 3 "E")
>(barre 5 1 3))
> }}}

now that makes sense. is that only possible with fret-diagram-verbose
or can i do the same with \fret-diagram?

\fret-diagram #"6-x;5-3-A;4-5-B;3-5-C;2-5-D;1-3-E;" won't work,
complaining about "Object is not a markup".

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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 10/14/13 8:07 AM, "Simon Bailey"  wrote:

>hi,
>
>On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Carl Sorensen  wrote:
>> All of the dots can be put on the fretboard using the
>>fret-diagram-verbose
>> syntax.
>>
>> The R codes can be put inside the circles.
>
>i was working with fret-diagrams a while back and would have loved to
>be able to put something else other than fingering in the dots. how
>would i put R in the circle?


\version "2.16.1"  % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond versions.


 \markup {
  % standard size
  \override #'(size . 3) {
\override #'(fret-diagram-details . (
 (dot-color . white)
 (finger-code . in-dot))) {
  \fret-diagram-verbose #'((mute 6)
   (place-fret 5 3 "A")
   (place-fret 4 5 "B")
   (place-fret 3 5 "C")
   (place-fret 2 5 "D")
   (place-fret 1 3 "E")
   (barre 5 1 3))
}}}



HTH,

Carl


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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Simon Bailey
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Federico Bruni  wrote:
> yes, I've also seen this
> and I _think_ that it's called E shape because the shape starts from the 6th
> string

that makes more sense now: Red + (R) = Root; red circle = IIIrd (B)
and Vth (D) steps of the scale (probably used when strumming the chord
shape).

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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/10/14 Simon Bailey 

>  What does the R indicate?
>
> the "R" probably indicates the root note of the scale – at least i've
> seen it written that way before in guitar literature (not a player, my
> girlfriend is a guitar teacher though...).
>

yes, I've also seen this
and I _think_ that it's called E shape because the shape starts from the
6th string
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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Simon Bailey
hi,

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Carl Sorensen  wrote:
> All of the dots can be put on the fretboard using the fret-diagram-verbose
> syntax.
>
> The R codes can be put inside the circles.

i was working with fret-diagrams a while back and would have loved to
be able to put something else other than fingering in the dots. how
would i put R in the circle?

> Adding the extra labels next to the dot would not be a big change.  I
> assume that the numbers are finger numbers?  It would just require the
> addition of a different location for the fingering (we currently put them
> at the top of the string, at the bottom of the string, or in the dot).
> But if we put the finger numbers outside of the dot, we'd have to have
> another kind of code for the R.  What does the R indicate?

the "R" probably indicates the root note of the scale – at least i've
seen it written that way before in guitar literature (not a player, my
girlfriend is a guitar teacher though...).

regards,
sb

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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 10/12/13 9:41 PM, "Kevin Tough"  wrote:

>Perhaps I had should describe what I am looking for more as a neck
>diagram for guitar because I want to do more than just a chord shape. I
>have cut the attached *.jpg from an E-book I use. I would like to be
>able to make these myself. Color, changing the numbers as I wish, and an
>adequate resolution are important. The fret board could be an image but
>it is not necessary.

As it stands now, Lilypond cannot produce the scale diagrams you require.

All of the dots can be put on the fretboard using the fret-diagram-verbose
syntax.

The R codes can be put inside the circles.

There is not currently a choice to make colored dots.  They can either be
black or white.

There is no capability for labeling the fret dots next to the dot.

Adding the extra labels next to the dot would not be a big change.  I
assume that the numbers are finger numbers?  It would just require the
addition of a different location for the fingering (we currently put them
at the top of the string, at the bottom of the string, or in the dot).
But if we put the finger numbers outside of the dot, we'd have to have
another kind of code for the R.  What does the R indicate?

When we've done scale diagrams for people before, rather than doing black
and red, we've done black and white.  How important is the red?

Thanks,

Carl Sorensen


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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Simon Bailey
kevin,

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Kevin Tough  wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the information and tips on "Stand alone guitar
> chord diagrams"! I will however be reverting to manually doing them in
> GIMP because that will give me the flexibility to do exactly what I
> want. I may also check out an Inkscape script but when it comes to music
> with chords, Lilypond will be great!

you mentioned that you want adequate resolution for printing. it might
be best to investigate inkscape rather than gimp for creating these
images -- inkscape is vector based and will scale far better than
raster images from gimp.

regards,
sb

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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Kevin Tough
Thanks everyone for the information and tips on "Stand alone guitar
chord diagrams"! I will however be reverting to manually doing them in
GIMP because that will give me the flexibility to do exactly what I
want. I may also check out an Inkscape script but when it comes to music
with chords, Lilypond will be great!

Namaste,

Kevin Tough


On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 15:16 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
> Kevin Tough  writes:
> 
> > Perhaps I had should describe what I am looking for more as a neck
> > diagram for guitar because I want to do more than just a chord shape. I
> > have cut the attached *.jpg from an E-book I use. I would like to be
> > able to make these myself. Color, changing the numbers as I wish, and an
> > adequate resolution are important. The fret board could be an image but
> > it is not necessary.
> 
> I have some very old Perl tools that produce PostScript. See for example
> http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/uploads/3C21LI2walxmMW8KPxQSaBzA.ps
> 
> Would that be useful?
> 
> -- Johan
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Re: Stand alone guitar chord/scale diagrams

2013-10-14 Thread Johan Vromans
Kevin Tough  writes:

> Perhaps I had should describe what I am looking for more as a neck
> diagram for guitar because I want to do more than just a chord shape. I
> have cut the attached *.jpg from an E-book I use. I would like to be
> able to make these myself. Color, changing the numbers as I wish, and an
> adequate resolution are important. The fret board could be an image but
> it is not necessary.

I have some very old Perl tools that produce PostScript. See for example
http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/uploads/3C21LI2walxmMW8KPxQSaBzA.ps

Would that be useful?

-- Johan

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