Re: Stems for rests under quaver beam
Hi Paul, This is fairly common in new music. I've found the most consistent way to get it to look good is by using overrides. Here's how I code it: - \override Stem.stemlet-length = #0.5 \override Stem.details.beamed-lengths = #'(4.75) f16->[ f r f] f-> f f f \revert Stem.stemlet-length \revert Stem.details.beamed-lengths --- You can adjust the beamed length to whatever value you prefer to keep the rest centered on the stave vertically. You don't need to revert the overrides until you're done with the stemlets. It's a bit tedious to do this for every beamed group, but it gives you fine control over exactly how they look. Cheers, A On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:41 AM Paul Hodges wrote: > I have been asked to set a modern piece for Flute, and it has some > elements which are new to me, and which I have been unable to find a way > to present. The first of these is that the composer regularly writes > rests within (or at the ends of) groups of quavers beamed together. > Using manual beaming it is easy to get the beams to extend over the > rests as required; however, in the manuscript (and in a printed copy of > some other music of his) there is a stub stem from the beam towards the > rest. > > I suppose I can draw this as an individual markup on each occasion, but > doing this for dozens of cases is daunting, and I wonder if anyone can > suggest a more practical approach? > > Thanks for any ideas! > Paul > >
Re: Stems for rests under quaver beam
Brilliant! That's perfect.
I'd tried writing a note with the rest glyph as notehead, but then the
stem was too long - your solution is both easier and more controllable.
Thanks,
Paul
On 22/08/2021 11:33:47, "Thomas Morley"
wrote:
>Am So., 22. Aug. 2021 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb Paul Hodges :
>>
>> I have been asked to set a modern piece for Flute, and it has some
>> elements which are new to me, and which I have been unable to find a way
>> to present. The first of these is that the composer regularly writes
>> rests within (or at the ends of) groups of quavers beamed together.
>> Using manual beaming it is easy to get the beams to extend over the
>> rests as required; however, in the manuscript (and in a printed copy of
>> some other music of his) there is a stub stem from the beam towards the
>> rest.
>>
>> I suppose I can draw this as an individual markup on each occasion, but
>> doing this for dozens of cases is daunting, and I wonder if anyone can
>> suggest a more practical approach?
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas!
>> Paul
>>
>
>How about:
>
>\relative {
> r8[ b b r] b[ r r b]
> \override Stem.stemlet-length = #1.0
> r8[ b b r] b[ r r b]
>}
>
>Cheers,
> Harm
>
Re: Stems for rests under quaver beam
Am So., 22. Aug. 2021 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb Paul Hodges :
>
> I have been asked to set a modern piece for Flute, and it has some
> elements which are new to me, and which I have been unable to find a way
> to present. The first of these is that the composer regularly writes
> rests within (or at the ends of) groups of quavers beamed together.
> Using manual beaming it is easy to get the beams to extend over the
> rests as required; however, in the manuscript (and in a printed copy of
> some other music of his) there is a stub stem from the beam towards the
> rest.
>
> I suppose I can draw this as an individual markup on each occasion, but
> doing this for dozens of cases is daunting, and I wonder if anyone can
> suggest a more practical approach?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
> Paul
>
How about:
\relative {
r8[ b b r] b[ r r b]
\override Stem.stemlet-length = #1.0
r8[ b b r] b[ r r b]
}
Cheers,
Harm
Re: Stems for rests under quaver beam
Hi Paul,
It's hard to understand exactly what you're trying to do without being
able to see it. Does the following in any way resemble what you're
trying to do?
\score {
\new RhythmicStaff {
\set stemLeftBeamCount = #0
c16[]
r8.
}
}
Kevin
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 10:44, Paul Hodges wrote:
>
> I have been asked to set a modern piece for Flute, and it has some
> elements which are new to me, and which I have been unable to find a way
> to present. The first of these is that the composer regularly writes
> rests within (or at the ends of) groups of quavers beamed together.
> Using manual beaming it is easy to get the beams to extend over the
> rests as required; however, in the manuscript (and in a printed copy of
> some other music of his) there is a stub stem from the beam towards the
> rest.
>
> I suppose I can draw this as an individual markup on each occasion, but
> doing this for dozens of cases is daunting, and I wonder if anyone can
> suggest a more practical approach?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
> Paul
>
