Re: Unterminated terminated tie
It took some digesting, but it behaves as desired:
[image: image.png]
Thanks!
Mike Dean
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:49 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> Le lundi 17 avril 2023 à 16:46 -0700, Mike Dean a écrit :
>
> I am needing to figure out how to best tie a note...
>
> \version "2.24.0"
> \relative c' {
> \key af \major
> \time 2/4
> \tempo "Not fast"
>ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
>\repeat volta 2 {
> c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
> bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~
> << { ef2}
> \
> { r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
> >>
>
> I am getting an unterminated tie warning: C:/Users/Mike
> Dean/Documents/musicwork/Lilypond/The-Easy-Winners-melody.ly:19:39
> : warning: unterminated tie bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef! ~
> and the tie needs to go from the ef! to the ef2 in the top of the
> simultaneous voice.
> I have a couple of other instances where I need to do likewise, so any
> help will be welcome. Thanks.
>
> Try
>
> \version "2.24.1"
> \language english
>
> \relative c' {
> \key af \major
> \time 2/4
> \tempo "Not fast"
> ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
> \repeat volta 2 {
> c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
> bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~
> <<
> { \voiceOne ef2}
> \new Voice { \voiceTwo r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
> >>
> \oneVoice
> }
> }
>
> A tie must end in the same voice as the voice it has been created in. The <<
> \\ >> construct creates a new voice for *all* of the inner expressions.
> Instead, you should use the more verbose form with \new Voice, \oneVoice,
> \voiceTwo and \oneVoice. Note that the first expression in the << >>
> construct doesn't have \new Voice, that's the whole point. That means it
> continues the previous voice context.
>
Re: RE: Unterminated terminated tie
On 2023-04-18 15:01, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Mike,
Try using \stemDown
Mark
First try Jean's suggestion! In general, it's better to use \voiceOne,
\voiceTwo, (which is implicitly done by the <<{...} \\ {...}>>
construct) which sets the direction not only on stems but also on lots
of other details, which mostly gives the desired result according to
standard typesetting practice. Only use \stemDown if you have special
reasons to only set the stem directions, nothing else. See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/learning/explicitly-instantiating-voices
for more explanations.
/Mats
*From:*lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] *On Behalf
Of *Mike Dean
*Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2023 8:03 PM
*To:* Lilypond-User Mailing List
*Subject:* Re: Unterminated terminated tie
Mark: That has helped some
.
\version "2.24.0"
\relative c' {
\key af \major
\time 2/4
\tempo "Not fast"
ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
<< { bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~ ef2}
\\
{ s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
image.png
But with the spacer rests, I want to get the beams pointing downward
<< { _[ bf'16 (af8) bf16] _[ (af) bf (af) ef!~ef2] }
\\
{ s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
The above doesn't seem to be the best way of doing it
Mike Dean
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:25 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek
wrote:
Mike,
One way is to start the lower voice one measure earlier and use a
spacer.
See below.
Mark
*From:*lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark
<mailto:lilypond-user-bounces%2Bcarsonmark>=ca.rr@gnu.org] *On
Behalf Of *Mike Dean
*Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2023 4:47 PM
*To:* Lilypond-User Mailing List
*Subject:* Unterminated terminated tie
I am needing to figure out how to best tie a note...
\version "2.24.0"
\relative c' {
\key af \major
\time 2/4
\tempo "Not fast"
ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g
af8 r r4
\repeat volta 2 {
c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
<< { bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~ ef2}
\\
{s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
I am getting an unterminated tie warning:
C:/Users/Mike
Dean/Documents/musicwork/Lilypond/The-Easy-Winners-melody.ly:19:39
: warning: unterminated tie
bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!
~
and the tie needs to go from the ef! to the ef2 in the top of the
simultaneous voice.
I have a couple of other instances where I need to do likewise, so
any help will be welcome. Thanks.
Mike Dean
RE: Unterminated terminated tie
Mike,
Try using \stemDown
Mark
From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Dean
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 8:03 PM
To: Lilypond-User Mailing List
Subject: Re: Unterminated terminated tie
Mark: That has helped some
.
\version "2.24.0"
\relative c' {
\key af \major
\time 2/4
\tempo "Not fast"
ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
<< { bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~ ef2}
\\
{ s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
But with the spacer rests, I want to get the beams pointing downward
<< { _[ bf'16 (af8) bf16] _[ (af) bf (af) ef!~ef2] }
\\
{ s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
The above doesn't seem to be the best way of doing it
Mike Dean
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:25 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek mailto:carsonm...@ca.rr.com> > wrote:
Mike,
One way is to start the lower voice one measure earlier and use a spacer.
See below.
Mark
From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
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Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 4:47 PM
To: Lilypond-User Mailing List mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> >
Subject: Unterminated terminated tie
I am needing to figure out how to best tie a note...
\version "2.24.0"
\relative c' {
\key af \major
\time 2/4
\tempo "Not fast"
ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
\repeat volta 2 {
c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
<< { bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~ ef2}
\\
{ s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
I am getting an unterminated tie warning:
C:/Users/Mike
Dean/Documents/musicwork/Lilypond/The-Easy-Winners-melody.ly:19:39: warning:
unterminated tie
bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!
~
and the tie needs to go from the ef! to the ef2 in the top of the simultaneous
voice.
I have a couple of other instances where I need to do likewise, so any help
will be welcome. Thanks.
Mike Dean
Re: Unterminated terminated tie
Le lundi 17 avril 2023 à 16:46 -0700, Mike Dean a écrit :
> I am needing to figure out how to best tie a note...
>
> \version "2.24.0"
> \relative c' {
> \key af \major
> \time 2/4
> \tempo "Not fast"
> ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
> \repeat volta 2 {
> c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
> bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~
> << { ef2}
> \\
> { r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
> >>
>
> I am getting an unterminated tie warning:
> [C:/Users/Mike
> Dean/Documents/musicwork/Lilypond/The-Easy-Winners-melody.ly:19:39](0):
> warning: unterminated tie
> bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!
> ~
> and the tie needs to go from the ef! to the ef2 in the top of the
> simultaneous voice.
> I have a couple of other instances where I need to do likewise, so any help
> will be welcome. Thanks.
Try
```
\version "2.24.1"
\language english
\relative c' {
\key af \major
\time 2/4
\tempo "Not fast"
ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
\repeat volta 2 {
c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~
<<
{ \voiceOne ef2}
\new Voice { \voiceTwo r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
\oneVoice
}
}
```
A tie must end in the same voice as the voice it has been created in. The `<<
\\ >>` construct creates a new voice for *all* of the inner expressions.
Instead, you should use the more verbose form with `\new Voice`, `\oneVoice`,
`\voiceTwo` and `\oneVoice`. Note that the first expression in the `<< >>`
construct doesn't have `\new Voice`, that's the whole point. That means it
continues the previous voice context.
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Re: Unterminated terminated tie
Mark: That has helped some
\version "2.24.0"
\relative c' {
\key af \major
\time 2/4
\tempo "Not fast"
ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
<< { bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~ ef2}
\\
{ s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
[image: image.png]
But with the spacer rests, I want to get the beams pointing downward
<< { _[ bf'16 (af8) bf16] _[ (af) bf (af) ef!~ef2] }
\\
{ s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
>>
The above doesn't seem to be the best way of doing it
Mike Dean
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:25 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek
wrote:
> Mike,
>
> One way is to start the lower voice one measure earlier and use a spacer.
>
> See below.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:
> lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Dean
> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2023 4:47 PM
> *To:* Lilypond-User Mailing List
> *Subject:* Unterminated terminated tie
>
>
>
> I am needing to figure out how to best tie a note...
>
>
>
> \version "2.24.0"
>
> \relative c' {
> \key af \major
> \time 2/4
> \tempo "Not fast"
>ef8 c' ~c16 bf af g f ef8 df16 c8 bf16 af g af bf c df ef f g af8 r r4
>\repeat volta 2 {
> c8 c4 ef8 f16 (ef8) f16 (ef) f16 (ef8)
> << { bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!~ ef2}
> \\
> { s2 r8 ef,16 (f g af bf b) }
> >>
>
>
>
> I am getting an unterminated tie warning:
>
> C:/Users/Mike
> Dean/Documents/musicwork/Lilypond/The-Easy-Winners-melody.ly:19:39
> : warning: unterminated tie
>
> bf'16 (af8) bf16 (af) bf (af) ef!
>
> ~
>
> and the tie needs to go from the ef! to the ef2 in the top of the
> simultaneous voice.
>
> I have a couple of other instances where I need to do likewise, so any
> help will be welcome. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Mike Dean
>
