RE: Writing psalms

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Harouff
I transcribe a lot of chant music and discovered that using the \breve and
putting the lyrics in quotes looks awful with more than a couple of words.
The justification never looked right, and the word spacing was always odd.
Instead I have found that the following works better.

Use \H for hidden notes so the spacing remains consistent across the entire
measure.
Use \NL when a measure must be broken in the middle.
Use \NM for normal measure breaks.

I deleted stuff that isn't important for the example:


\paper {
}

Global = {
}

% Hidden Note
H = { \hideNotes c'4 \unHideNotes }
% New Measure
NM = { \cadenzaOff \bar "|" \cadenzaOn }
% New Line
NL = { \cadenzaOff \bar ":" \break \cadenzaOn }

\score { \new ChoirStaff <<
\new Staff = women <<
\clef treble
\key f \major
\new Voice = "Soprano" {\voiceOne \cadenzaOn
#(set-accidental-style 'voice)
g'4 g'4 g'4 g'4 a'2 a'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \NL 
\H \H \H \H a'4 bes'4 c''2( bes'2) a'2 \NM
a'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H a'4 g'2 g'4 g'4 f'2 \NM
g'4 g'4 a'2 a'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H a'4 bes'4 c''2( bes'2) a'2
\NM
a'4 \H \H \H \H \H a'4 g'2 f'2 \NM
a'4 g'4 a'4 bes'2 a'4 bes'4 a'2( g'2) f'1 \bar "|."
} 
\new Voice = "Alto" {\voiceTwo \cadenzaOn
#(set-accidental-style 'voice)
e'4 e'4 e'4 e'4 f'2 f'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \NL 
\H \H \H \H f'4 f'4 f'2( f'2) f'2 \NM
f'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H f'4 e'2 e'4 e'4 c'2 \NM
e'4 e'4 f'2 f'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H f'4 f'4 f'2( f'2) f'2 \NM
f'4 \H \H \H \H \H f'4 e'2 c'2 \NM
f'4 d'4 f'4 f'2 f'4 f'4 f'2( e'2) c'1 \bar "|."
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "Soprano" { \set fontSize = #+2
   You were a disc- i- ple of Christ and a mem- ber of the 
di- vine col- lege of A- pos- tles.
   Hav- ing been weak in faith you doubt- ed the Re- sur- rec- tion
of Christ.
   But by feel- ing the wounds you be- lieved in His all- pure pas-
"sion:"
   Pray now to Him, O all- praised Tho- mas 
   to grant us peace and great mer- cy.
}
>>
\new Staff = men <<
\clef bass
\key f \major
\new Voice = "Tenor" {\voiceOne \cadenzaOn
#(set-accidental-style 'voice)
c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'2 c'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \NL 
\H \H \H \H c'4 d'4 ees'2( d'2) c'2 \NM
c'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H c'4 bes2 bes4 bes4 a2 \NM
c'4 c'4 c'2 c'4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H c'4 d'4 ees'2( d'2) c'2 \NM
c'4 \H \H \H \H \H c'4 bes2 a2 \NM
c'4 bes4 c'4 d'2 c'4 d'4 c'2( bes2) a1 \bar "|."
}
\new Voice = "Bass" {\voiceTwo \cadenzaOn
#(set-accidental-style 'voice)
c4 f4 f4 f4 f2 f4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \NL 
\H \H \H \H f4 4 2( 2) f2 \NM
f4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H \H f4 c2 c4 c4 f2 \NM
c4 f4 f2 f4 \H \H \H \H \H \H \H f4 4 2( 2) f2 \NM
f4 \H \H \H \H \H f4 c2 f2 \NM
f4 g4 f4 bes2 f4 bes4 c2( c2) f1 \bar "|."
}
>>
>>
\layout { \context { \Staff 
\remove "Time_signature_engraver" 
}
}
\header { 
piece = "Troparion for Apostle Thomas (Oct 6/Oct 19)"
opus = "Tone 2 - Lvov/Bachmetev"
}
}
 

Paul
Madison, AL

-Original Message-
From: Dmytro O. Redchuk
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: Writing psalms


I use for this smth like[1]:

% in melody:
\cadenzaOn
a8 a\breve a8
\cadenzaOff

% and in lyrics:
%
la "la la la li lo lo li la la" li
%




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Re: Writing psalms

2009-01-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 15.01.2009 (11:11), Alberto Simões wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am transcribing a music with psamls.
> 
> What this mean: there is a standard music portion, with a correct time
> signature, but there is a portion where the singer will say a lot of
> words for each note, and these specific bars have different lengths than
> the one in the time signature.
> 
> While I searched in the documentation for a way to specify bar lengths
> without defining a specific time signature, but didn't find it. I am
> sure it was my bad english/music knowledge.
> 
> Can anybody point me with some example?

You could have a look at some of the suggestions in section 2.8.5 of the
Notation Reference:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Working-with-ancient-music_002d_002dscenarios-and-solutions#Transcribing-Gregorian-chant

It may not be exactly what you're after, but it may get you further.

Eyolf

-- 
Do what you can to prolong your life, in the hope that someday you'll
learn what it's for.


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Re: Writing psalms

2009-01-15 Thread Alberto Simões


Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> 2009/1/15 Alberto Simões :
>> Hello
>>
>> I am transcribing a music with psamls.
>>
>> What this mean: there is a standard music portion, with a correct time
>> signature, but there is a portion where the singer will say a lot of
>> words for each note, and these specific bars have different lengths than
>> the one in the time signature.
> 
> I use for this smth like[1]:
> 
> % in melody:
> \cadenzaOn
> a8 a\breve a8
> \cadenzaOff
> 
> % and in lyrics:
> %
> la "la la la li lo lo li la la" li
> %

Yay! Thanks :)

-- 
Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho
 Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal


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Re: Writing psalms

2009-01-15 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2009/1/15 Alberto Simões :
> Hello
>
> I am transcribing a music with psamls.
>
> What this mean: there is a standard music portion, with a correct time
> signature, but there is a portion where the singer will say a lot of
> words for each note, and these specific bars have different lengths than
> the one in the time signature.

I use for this smth like[1]:

% in melody:
\cadenzaOn
a8 a\breve a8
\cadenzaOff

% and in lyrics:
%
la "la la la li lo lo li la la" li
%

So every token in quotes (first la and last li are also in quotes, implicitly)
will be assigned to a note.

I would like to have a note in double bars (and here in maillist was some
time before discussed how to draw it with scheme, if i can remember),
as simple as this "\breve".

_
 1. this style conforms with "our local rules", let's say.

> Can anybody point me with some example?
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Alberto
> --
> Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho
> Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal

-- 
Dmytro O. Redchuk
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