Re: custom compound time signature
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes: 2012/6/2 diekunstderfuge dolcevitafinea...@gmail.com: Hi all, I'm trying to achieve the compound time signature seen in the image here: http://old.nabble.com/file/p33950720/custom_time_signature.png As you can see, it's meant to represent 3 bars of 2/4 grouped together as one bar. My plan was to write it as one bar of 3/2 and then override the time signature stencil. First, I've used this snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 ) to create a dummy staff with only the time signatures. (For some reason, \numericTimeSignature does not seem to work inside of the TimeSig context. Does anyone know why?) Have a look at /ly/property-init.ly. where \numericTimeSignature is defined: numericTimeSignature = \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered But now you're using a new custom-defined context: TimeSig Replace Staff with TimeSig and it will work. It is much more straightforward to add \alias Staff to the definition of the TimeSig context. Then any overrides for Staff issued within TimeSig will not get handed upstairs. This should probably be added to the LSR snippet: while it does not in itself require it currently, it is likely to cause irritation like here. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: custom compound time signature
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM, diekunstderfuge dolcevitafinea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still using 2.12.3 because that is what the Lilypond download site lists as the latest stable version for Windows. Where can I find 2.14.2, and how could I install it while keeping 2.12.3 in case I need to fall back to the earlier version? Ah, you were probably caught by the Curse of the Old Website. Our website is no longer lilypond.org/web - now it's lilypond.org Enjoy new looks! :) cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: custom compound time signature
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
2012/6/2 diekunstderfuge dolcevitafinea...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I'm trying to achieve the compound time signature seen in the image here:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p33950720/custom_time_signature.png
As you can see, it's meant to represent 3 bars of 2/4 grouped together as
one bar. My plan was to write it as one bar of 3/2 and then override the
time signature stencil.
First, I've used this snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 ) to create a dummy staff with
only the time signatures. (For some reason, \numericTimeSignature does not
seem to work inside of the TimeSig context. Does anyone know why?)
Have a look at /ly/property-init.ly. where \numericTimeSignature is defined:
numericTimeSignature = \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
But now you're using a new custom-defined context: TimeSig
Replace Staff with TimeSig and it will work.
It is much more straightforward to add
\alias Staff
to the definition of the TimeSig context. Then any overrides for Staff
issued within TimeSig will not get handed upstairs.
This should probably be added to the LSR snippet: while it does not in
itself require it currently, it is likely to cause irritation like
here.
Since I got no further reply on this suggestion, here is the respective
code that should work as expected.
\layout {
\context {
\type Engraver_group
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\consists Axis_group_engraver
\name TimeSig
\alias Staff
\override TimeSignature #'font-size = #3
\override TimeSignature #'break-align-symbol = ##f
\override TimeSignature #'X-offset =
#ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
\override TimeSignature #'after-line-breaking =
#shift-right-at-line-begin
}
\context {
\Score
\accepts TimeSig
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
timeSignatures = { \numericTimeSignature \time 2/4 s2 \time 3/4 s2. \time 4/4
s1 }
\score {
\new TimeSig \timeSignatures
\new Staff \relative { c'2 c2. c1 }
\new Staff { a2 a2. a1 }
}
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Re: custom compound time signature
2012/6/4 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
2012/6/2 diekunstderfuge dolcevitafinea...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I'm trying to achieve the compound time signature seen in the image here:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p33950720/custom_time_signature.png
As you can see, it's meant to represent 3 bars of 2/4 grouped together as
one bar. My plan was to write it as one bar of 3/2 and then override the
time signature stencil.
First, I've used this snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 ) to create a dummy staff with
only the time signatures. (For some reason, \numericTimeSignature does not
seem to work inside of the TimeSig context. Does anyone know why?)
Have a look at /ly/property-init.ly. where \numericTimeSignature is defined:
numericTimeSignature = \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
But now you're using a new custom-defined context: TimeSig
Replace Staff with TimeSig and it will work.
It is much more straightforward to add
\alias Staff
to the definition of the TimeSig context. Then any overrides for Staff
issued within TimeSig will not get handed upstairs.
This should probably be added to the LSR snippet: while it does not in
itself require it currently, it is likely to cause irritation like
here.
Since I got no further reply on this suggestion, here is the respective
code that should work as expected.
\layout {
\context {
\type Engraver_group
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\consists Axis_group_engraver
\name TimeSig
\alias Staff
\override TimeSignature #'font-size = #3
\override TimeSignature #'break-align-symbol = ##f
\override TimeSignature #'X-offset =
#ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
\override TimeSignature #'after-line-breaking =
#shift-right-at-line-begin
}
\context {
\Score
\accepts TimeSig
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
timeSignatures = { \numericTimeSignature \time 2/4 s2 \time 3/4 s2. \time 4/4
s1 }
\score {
\new TimeSig \timeSignatures
\new Staff \relative { c'2 c2. c1 }
\new Staff { a2 a2. a1 }
}
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Hi David,
sorry for the late reply and many thanks for your effort.
I changed http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 following your suggestion.
-Harm
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Re: custom compound time signature
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes: It is much more straightforward to add \alias Staff to the definition of the TimeSig context. Then any overrides for Staff issued within TimeSig will not get handed upstairs. This should probably be added to the LSR snippet: while it does not in itself require it currently, it is likely to cause irritation like here. sorry for the late reply and many thanks for your effort. I changed http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 following your suggestion. I wanted to put out the usual we need to document this tirade, but it turns out that URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/defining-new-contexts actually does state Since it is similar to the Voice, we want commands that work on (existing) Voices to remain working. This is achieved by giving the new context an alias Voice, \alias Voice Which is rather close. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: custom compound time signature
Thank you so much! This code worked perfectly. You were of course absolutely
right about the context for \numericTimeSignature...I can't believe I didn't
spot that myself!
I have not worked with Scheme before and I would like to start learning how
to write advanced tweaks for Lilypond as well as functions to automate some
of the writing of music expressions. So far I've noticed on my own some
differences (such as #(define... for music expression functions, but
#(lambda... for dealing with grobs) but I haven't found a good resource to
help me learn more about these details. I'm a musician/musicologist with
only a little programming experience.
I'm still using 2.12.3 because that is what the Lilypond download site lists
as the latest stable version for Windows. Where can I find 2.14.2, and how
could I install it while keeping 2.12.3 in case I need to fall back to the
earlier version?
Many thanks!
harm6 wrote:
2012/6/2 diekunstderfuge dolcevitafinea...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I'm trying to achieve the compound time signature seen in the image here:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p33950720/custom_time_signature.png
As you can see, it's meant to represent 3 bars of 2/4 grouped together as
one bar. My plan was to write it as one bar of 3/2 and then override the
time signature stencil.
First, I've used this snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 ) to create a dummy staff with
only the time signatures. (For some reason, \numericTimeSignature does
not
seem to work inside of the TimeSig context. Does anyone know why?)
Have a look at /ly/property-init.ly. where \numericTimeSignature is
defined:
numericTimeSignature = \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
But now you're using a new custom-defined context: TimeSig
Replace Staff with TimeSig and it will work.
This snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=609
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=609 ) prints only the numerator of
the
time signature, which I need to get the 3. I do not know how to combine
this with a compound time signature
Try:
\version 2.14.2
customTimeSigI =
\once \override TimeSig.TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup
#:vcenter #:number 3
#:vcenter x
#:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number (#:column (2 4)
\layout {
\context {
\type Engraver_group
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\consists Axis_group_engraver
\name TimeSig
\override TimeSignature #'font-size = #2
\override TimeSignature #'break-align-symbol = ##f
\override TimeSignature #'X-offset =
#ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
%\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
\override TimeSignature #'after-line-breaking =
#shift-right-at-line-begin
}
\context {
\Score
\accepts TimeSig
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
timeSignatures = {
\override TimeSig.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\time 2/4
s2
\time 3/4
s2.
\time 4/4
s1
\customTimeSigI
\time 6/4
\set Score.beatStructure = #'(2 2 2)
s1.
}
\score {
\new TimeSig \timeSignatures
\new Staff \relative { c'2 c2. c1 c1. \repeat unfold 12 { c8 } }
\new Staff { a2 a2. a1 a1. a1.}
}
Controlling beaming behavior, often a concern with compound time
signatures,
is not important as the TimeSig staff displays only time signatures.
I added the 2.14.2-command \set Score.beatStructure = #'(2 2 2)
Delete it if you want or replace it with an 2.12.3-command.
But please note: it _will_ affect the score.
I am using 2.12.3.
Why do you use this outdated version?
Well, some time ago the LSR was on 2.12.3 and that was the reason
why I didn't delete this version, while installing the newer stable
version and the newest development-version.
But I'm absolutely sure that the LSR is now on 2.14.2 :)
HTH,
Harm
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Re: custom compound time signature
On 12-06-03 04:29 PM, diekunstderfuge wrote: Thank you so much! This code worked perfectly. You were of course absolutely right about the context for \numericTimeSignature...I can't believe I didn't spot that myself! I have not worked with Scheme before and I would like to start learning how to write advanced tweaks for Lilypond as well as functions to automate some of the writing of music expressions. So far I've noticed on my own some differences (such as #(define... for music expression functions, but #(lambda... for dealing with grobs) but I haven't found a good resource to help me learn more about these details. I'm a musician/musicologist with only a little programming experience. I'm still using 2.12.3 because that is what the Lilypond download site lists as the latest stable version for Windows. Where can I find 2.14.2, and how could I install it while keeping 2.12.3 in case I need to fall back to the earlier version? Many thanks! If you go to http://www.lilypond.org/windows.html you'll get a link to 2.14.2 which is the latest stable release, and also where you will find the next stable version, 2.16, due shortly. As to running two versions under Windows, the following is quoted from our mail list: From: James Lowe James.Lowe@... From: James Lowe James.Lowe@... Cc: Lilypond-User lilypond-user@... Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Different versions of LilyPond That sounds awfully complicated (and one would question the legality of having multiple installs of the same version of XP on one machine but I haven't read MS's EULA) Can't you just 1. install version 2.12.whatever 2. rename lilypond dir accordingly 3. install ve4rsion 2.13.whatever 4. rename lilypond dir accordingly and just put back the old dir name for the version you want to use. I believe pretty much everything is self-contained. James I think you'll find the change from 2.12 to 2.14 to be pretty painless, although you should run the convert.ly script over the .ly you want to update, or better, use Wilbert Berendsen's Frescobaldi program, where convert-ly is a menu option. Hope this helps! Colin the Elder -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: custom compound time signature
2012/6/2 diekunstderfuge dolcevitafinea...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I'm trying to achieve the compound time signature seen in the image here:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p33950720/custom_time_signature.png
As you can see, it's meant to represent 3 bars of 2/4 grouped together as
one bar. My plan was to write it as one bar of 3/2 and then override the
time signature stencil.
First, I've used this snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=272 ) to create a dummy staff with
only the time signatures. (For some reason, \numericTimeSignature does not
seem to work inside of the TimeSig context. Does anyone know why?)
Have a look at /ly/property-init.ly. where \numericTimeSignature is defined:
numericTimeSignature = \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
But now you're using a new custom-defined context: TimeSig
Replace Staff with TimeSig and it will work.
This snippet ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=609
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=609 ) prints only the numerator of the
time signature, which I need to get the 3. I do not know how to combine
this with a compound time signature
Try:
\version 2.14.2
customTimeSigI =
\once \override TimeSig.TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup
#:vcenter #:number 3
#:vcenter x
#:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number (#:column (2 4)
\layout {
\context {
\type Engraver_group
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\consists Axis_group_engraver
\name TimeSig
\override TimeSignature #'font-size = #2
\override TimeSignature #'break-align-symbol = ##f
\override TimeSignature #'X-offset =
#ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
%\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
\override TimeSignature #'after-line-breaking =
#shift-right-at-line-begin
}
\context {
\Score
\accepts TimeSig
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
timeSignatures = {
\override TimeSig.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered
\time 2/4
s2
\time 3/4
s2.
\time 4/4
s1
\customTimeSigI
\time 6/4
\set Score.beatStructure = #'(2 2 2)
s1.
}
\score {
\new TimeSig \timeSignatures
\new Staff \relative { c'2 c2. c1 c1. \repeat unfold 12 { c8 } }
\new Staff { a2 a2. a1 a1. a1.}
}
Controlling beaming behavior, often a concern with compound time signatures,
is not important as the TimeSig staff displays only time signatures.
I added the 2.14.2-command \set Score.beatStructure = #'(2 2 2)
Delete it if you want or replace it with an 2.12.3-command.
But please note: it _will_ affect the score.
I am using 2.12.3.
Why do you use this outdated version?
Well, some time ago the LSR was on 2.12.3 and that was the reason
why I didn't delete this version, while installing the newer stable
version and the newest development-version.
But I'm absolutely sure that the LSR is now on 2.14.2 :)
HTH,
Harm
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