Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-11 Thread Federico Bruni

Il 11/12/2011 22:53, Father Gordon Gilbert ha scritto:

Hi all,

I've been using LilyPond for some time now, always to make lead
sheets, or single- and multiple-page individual songs, mostly for
church use.  I now have quite a store of Christmas carols and similar
which I'd like to do up into a booklet, perhaps printed ;landscape on
letter or legal paper.  I don't need to get fancy with page numbers or
anything like that, as long as all my booklets are printed the same.



I would use just Lilypond.
I made simple books just using \include and lilypond.


It occurs to me that if I could import them into OpenOffice I could
re-size them and arrange them there with a minimum of fuss -- I did
that a few years ago (version 2.5.x), but I can't remember what I did
there.  How does one make a lily output suitable to import into OOo?
(PNG?)



I quickly tried OooLily once, more than a year ago.
Anyway the good news is that it can handle Lilypond code directly, you 
don't need to run lilypond before, as explained here:


http://ooolilypond.sourceforge.net/

Don't know if you have to copy and paste or if you can also include an 
external file.


Another option is Scribus:
http://docs.scribus.net/index.php?lang=en&page=renderframes

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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-11 Thread m...@apollinemike.com

Le Dec 11, 2011 à 11:14 PM, Federico Bruni a écrit :

> Il 11/12/2011 22:53, Father Gordon Gilbert ha scritto:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've been using LilyPond for some time now, always to make lead
>> sheets, or single- and multiple-page individual songs, mostly for
>> church use.  I now have quite a store of Christmas carols and similar
>> which I'd like to do up into a booklet, perhaps printed ;landscape on
>> letter or legal paper.  I don't need to get fancy with page numbers or
>> anything like that, as long as all my booklets are printed the same.
>> 
> 
> I would use just Lilypond.
> I made simple books just using \include and lilypond.

To do this, you can check out 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/multiple-scores-in-a-book

Cheers,
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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-11 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Good news!

Right after I posted that request, I finally found the entry I wanted
to make PNG files, and have been merrily compiling my various songs
and doing the png command in LilyPondTool (the Console is handy for
this), and pasting the PNGs in a OOo document, with the apparent
ability to resize them as I need.

I did go to the reference you suggested, and will carefully digest
that.  If my OOo experiment doesn't work as I hope, I'll go to that
method next.

I also looked at OOoLilyPond, and couldn't make head nor tail of it,
so gave that up as a lost cause.  Also looks as if it's not well
supported -- especially compared to LilyPondTool.  Thanks for that,
Bertalan!

Blessings,

Gordon+

Fr. Gordon Gilbert
Penetanguishene, ON, Canada

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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-11 Thread David Kastrup
Father Gordon Gilbert  writes:

> Good news!
>
> Right after I posted that request, I finally found the entry I wanted
> to make PNG files, and have been merrily compiling my various songs
> and doing the png command in LilyPondTool (the Console is handy for
> this), and pasting the PNGs in a OOo document, with the apparent
> ability to resize them as I need.

"Apparent" is the correct term for resizing bitmaps.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-12 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
> --
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:49:46 +0100
> From: David Kastrup 
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: how to make a songbook
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>
> Father Gordon Gilbert  writes:
>
>> Good news!
>>
>> Right after I posted that request, I finally found the entry I wanted
>> to make PNG files, and have been merrily compiling my various songs
>> and doing the png command in LilyPondTool (the Console is handy for
>> this), and pasting the PNGs in a OOo document, with the apparent
>> ability to resize them as I need.
>
> "Apparent" is the correct term for resizing bitmaps.
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>

OOoh!  What should I be looking for?  So far in the OOo document the
display looks fine.  Even at fairly high magnitude.  My son also made
a cryptic comment about 300 dpi.  I *am* prepared to give this up as a
lost cause if it looks ugly, but so far with about 26 songs in my
book, it looks OK.

Blessings,

Gordon+
-- 
Fr. Gordon Gilbert
Penetanguishene, ON

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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:20:30AM -0500, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> OOoh!  What should I be looking for?  So far in the OOo document the
> display looks fine.  Even at fairly high magnitude.  My son also made
> a cryptic comment about 300 dpi.  I *am* prepared to give this up as a
> lost cause if it looks ugly, but so far with about 26 songs in my
> book, it looks OK.

If you make a bitmap larger, the quality degrades.  Try printing
out 1 page of your document, then look at it with a magnifying
glass.

** do not rely on looking at the computer screen **

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-12 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
On 12 December 2011 06:49, Graham Percival  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:20:30AM -0500, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> > OOoh!  What should I be looking for?  So far in the OOo document the
> > display looks fine.  Even at fairly high magnitude.  My son also made
> > a cryptic comment about 300 dpi.  I *am* prepared to give this up as a
> > lost cause if it looks ugly, but so far with about 26 songs in my
> > book, it looks OK.
>
> If you make a bitmap larger, the quality degrades.  Try printing
> out 1 page of your document, then look at it with a magnifying
> glass.
>
> ** do not rely on looking at the computer screen **
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham

Thanks Graham,

I did print out one page, and while some of the type is a little
fuzzy, it's all readable.  Basically I've taken letter-size pages and
pasted them into OOo, and re-sized them as necessary, also cutting off
the footer at the bottom, and if possible, stretching the song to fill
the page (half of a legal-size page).

I think I'm onto something here that will fill the bill for what I
need.  Looking at the printed copy, I will experiment with proportions
and sizing some more.

Blessings,

Gordon+


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Penetanguishene, ON

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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-12 Thread Christian McConnell
The solution is simple: use vector graphics. Added bonus: with an svg, you can 
tweak the details (spacing, etc.) in Inkscape, really easily.

I do that, then save as an eps, and then put it into Scribus. It's a few steps, 
to be sure, but I love the results.

Chris McConnell


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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:49:08 -0800
From: Graham Percival 
To: Father Gordon Gilbert 
Cc: David Kastrup , lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how to make a songbook
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:20:30AM -0500, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> OOoh!  What should I be looking for?  So far in the OOo document the
> display looks fine.  Even at fairly high magnitude.  My son also made
> a cryptic comment about 300 dpi.  I *am* prepared to give this up as a
> lost cause if it looks ugly, but so far with about 26 songs in my
> book, it looks OK.

If you make a bitmap larger, the quality degrades.  Try printing
out 1 page of your document, then look at it with a magnifying
glass.

** do not rely on looking at the computer screen **

Cheers,
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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-12 Thread Nick Payne

On 13/12/11 03:10, Christian McConnell wrote:
The solution is simple: use vector graphics. Added bonus: with an svg, 
you can tweak the details (spacing, etc.) in Inkscape, really easily.


I do that, then save as an eps, and then put it into Scribus. It's a 
few steps, to be sure, but I love the results.


Or you can use a render frame in Scribus and embed your Lilypond code 
directly in the frame. Here's a PDF from Scribus using that method to 
test a two column layout of short arpeggio exercises.


Nick


test.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-12 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:21:30 +1100
> From: Nick Payne 
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: how to make a songbook
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>
> On 13/12/11 03:10, Christian McConnell wrote:
>> The solution is simple: use vector graphics. Added bonus: with an svg,
>> you can tweak the details (spacing, etc.) in Inkscape, really easily.
>>
>> I do that, then save as an eps, and then put it into Scribus. It's a
>> few steps, to be sure, but I love the results.
>
> Or you can use a render frame in Scribus and embed your Lilypond code
> directly in the frame. Here's a PDF from Scribus using that method to
> test a two column layout of short arpeggio exercises.
>
> Nick
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Yeah, can you send that attachment directly to me?  My gmail on
firefox on dialup doesn't give me a link I can use to retrieve it.

Just might be the way to go for what I want to do.

Thanks,

Gordon+

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Penetanguishene, ON

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