Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-30 Thread Laura Conrad
> "pabuhr" == pabuhr   writes:

pabuhr> I tried manually converting the ps to eps: ps2pdf generates
pabuhr> a file that is unusable (go figure), and "convert" generates
pabuhr> a low quality image (maybe one of the many parameters can
pabuhr> fix this).

"convert -density' sometimes helps with this.

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Re: lilypondfile (fwd)

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Tarenskeen



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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:26:07 +0200 (CEST)
From: Martin Tarenskeen 
To: pabuhr 
Subject: Re: lilypondfile



On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, pabuhr wrote:


  lilypond -dbackend=eps -daux-files=#f file.ly

  should be what you are after...

Perfect, except it still generates a PDF file, which I don't need and I could
not find an command-line option to prevent the PDF from being created.
But that's what a Makefile is for: I just delete the PDF.


Have you tried

lilypond -dbackend=eps -daux-files=#f --ps file.ly

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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-28 Thread pabuhr
   I've not tried this to confirm it's correct, but my expectation is that the 
   syntax is

   lilypond options filename

   So you should write

   lilypond -o fred mary.ly

Works! I'm just an old C programmer and always put the '-o' at the end of the
command. 8-(

Thanks.



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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-28 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: "pabuhr" 

To: "Reinhold Kainhofer" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: lilypondfile



Finally, what does the "-o" option do?

  -o,--output=FILE or FOLDER

  Set the default output file to FILE or, if a folder with that name 
exists,
  direct the output to FOLDER, taking the file name from the input file. 
The

  appropriate suffix will be added (e.g. .pdf for pdf) in both cases.

For this command

$ lilypond mary.ly -o fred

my expectation is that the PDF output is placed in file fred.pdf rather 
than

mary.pdf, but here is what occurs:

GNU LilyPond 2.16.0
Processing `mary.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...[8]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `mary.ps'...
Converting to `./mary.pdf'...
warning: cannot find file: `-o'
warning: cannot find file: `fred'
fatal error: failed files: "fred -o"



I've not tried this to confirm it's correct, but my expectation is that the 
syntax is


lilypond options filename

So you should write

lilypond -o fred mary.ly

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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-28 Thread pabuhr
   > Perfect, except it still generates a PDF file, which I don't need and I 
could
   > not find an command-line option to prevent the PDF from being created.
   > But that's what a Makefile is for: I just delete the PDF.

   Lilypond also has a --ps option So what you want is:

 lilypond -dbackend=eps -daux-files=#f --ps file.ly

8-) It works, but totally counter-intuitive. I do use --ps all the time, and
the usage manual is clear on this option:

  --ps Generate PostScript.

so it never would have occurred to me that --ps means NOT --ps if the backend
option is eps. Now the usage manual does state:

  The prefix no- may be added to option-name to switch 'off' an option, e.g.

 -dpoint-and-click=#f

  is the same as

 -dno-point-and-click

so I tried -dno-ps but that generates:

warning: no such internal option: no-ps

Just to show I am doing due diligence, the usage manual also says:

--png Generate pictures of each page, in PNG format. This implies '--ps'.

--pdf Generate PDF. This implies '--ps'.

but in both cases, no "ps" file exists after the command. Yes, the output of
the command indicates:

   Layout output to `file.ps'...

but creation of this temporary file is an internal issue since it is
subsequently removed, and therefore, irrelevant to the meaning of the
command-line option.

Finally, what does the "-o" option do?

   -o,--output=FILE or FOLDER

   Set the default output file to FILE or, if a folder with that name exists,
   direct the output to FOLDER, taking the file name from the input file. The
   appropriate suffix will be added (e.g. .pdf for pdf) in both cases.

For this command

$ lilypond mary.ly -o fred

my expectation is that the PDF output is placed in file fred.pdf rather than
mary.pdf, but here is what occurs:

GNU LilyPond 2.16.0
Processing `mary.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...[8]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `mary.ps'...
Converting to `./mary.pdf'...
warning: cannot find file: `-o'
warning: cannot find file: `fred'
fatal error: failed files: "fred -o"

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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer

On 2012-08-28 07:09, pabuhr wrote:

> Is there a way to generate an eps file directly as for a ps file? I need 
the
> bounding box to include the exact output into latex (I'm not using 
pdflatex).
> I tried manually converting the ps to eps: ps2pdf generates a file that is
> unusable (go figure), and "convert" generates a low quality image (maybe 
one of
> the many parameters can fix this). Using command-line option 
"backend=eps" does
> generate a eps file but it's not the same as the original because it is 
for
> lilypond-book

I see no reason why there should be a difference.

There is a small shift left and up that is different from lilypondfile, which
is what I was previously using. I can compensate in latex.

lilypond -dbackend=eps -daux-files=#f file.ly

should be what you are after...

Perfect, except it still generates a PDF file, which I don't need and I could
not find an command-line option to prevent the PDF from being created.
But that's what a Makefile is for: I just delete the PDF.


Lilypond also has a --ps option So what you want is:

 lilypond -dbackend=eps -daux-files=#f --ps file.ly

Cheers,
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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-27 Thread pabuhr
   > Is there a way to generate an eps file directly as for a ps file? I need 
the
   > bounding box to include the exact output into latex (I'm not using 
pdflatex).
   > I tried manually converting the ps to eps: ps2pdf generates a file that is
   > unusable (go figure), and "convert" generates a low quality image (maybe 
one of
   > the many parameters can fix this). Using command-line option "backend=eps" 
does
   > generate a eps file but it's not the same as the original because it is for
   > lilypond-book

   I see no reason why there should be a difference.

There is a small shift left and up that is different from lilypondfile, which
is what I was previously using. I can compensate in latex.

   lilypond -dbackend=eps -daux-files=#f file.ly

   should be what you are after...

Perfect, except it still generates a PDF file, which I don't need and I could
not find an command-line option to prevent the PDF from being created.
But that's what a Makefile is for: I just delete the PDF.

Thanks

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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-27 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer

On 2012-08-28 02:12, pabuhr wrote:

Is there a way to generate an eps file directly as for a ps file? I need the
bounding box to include the exact output into latex (I'm not using pdflatex).
I tried manually converting the ps to eps: ps2pdf generates a file that is
unusable (go figure), and "convert" generates a low quality image (maybe one of
the many parameters can fix this). Using command-line option "backend=eps" does
generate a eps file but it's not the same as the original because it is for
lilypond-book


I see no reason why there should be a difference. the eps backend is 
used by lilypond-book, but it should be usable on its own, too.


lilypond -dbackend=eps file.ly

should generate the exact same layout as the pdf file (except that the 
output is cropped). In fact, lilypond first does the whole layout and 
only then generates the output file (ps/pdf, eps, png, svg, ...) from 
the final layout.





(and it generates a lot of extra files).


lilypond -dhelp

shows that there is an aux-files=#f option to lilypond:

lilypond -dbackend=eps -daux-files=#f file.ly

should be what you are after...

Cheers,
Reinhold


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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-27 Thread pabuhr
Is there a way to generate an eps file directly as for a ps file? I need the
bounding box to include the exact output into latex (I'm not using pdflatex).
I tried manually converting the ps to eps: ps2pdf generates a file that is
unusable (go figure), and "convert" generates a low quality image (maybe one of
the many parameters can fix this). Using command-line option "backend=eps" does
generate a eps file but it's not the same as the original because it is for
lilypond-book (and it generates a lot of extra files).

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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-27 Thread pabuhr
   The vertical spacing between systems in lilypond-book is established by
   LaTeX, not LilyPond, so most spacing parameters will not be effective.

Ouch! 8-( Having to fuss with vertical spacing in two places is unfortunate,
especially since the latex version only gives a fixed spacing whereas lilypond
allows control at multiple levels. I don't think knowing the "number of files
already included in this snippet" is going to be helpful. Maybe I need to
directly include PS/PDF output from lilypond if I want them to be the same. 8-(

   Intersystem spacing in lilypond-book is documented in the usage manual,
   though possibly not really obvious:

Yes, I saw those macros but never imagined I would need them unless I have to
tweak after the fact.

Ok, I'll have to go back and rethink this one.

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Re: lilypondfile

2012-08-27 Thread David Kastrup
pabuhr  writes:

> I cannot get the direct output from lilypond to match the output from
> lilypondfile with lilypond book. Below I have the source file and a PDF file
> where page 1 is the direct output from lilypond and page 2 is generated by
> lilypond book using:
>
> \lilypondfile{Mary_Lamb.ly}
>
> The problem is the vertical spacing is compressed in lilypond book.
> I'd like the output in lilypond book to look the same as the direct
> output.

The vertical spacing between systems in lilypond-book is established by
LaTeX, not LilyPond, so most spacing parameters will not be effective.

Intersystem spacing in lilypond-book is documented in the usage manual,
though possibly not really obvious:

   Each snippet will call the following macros if they have been
defined by the user:

   * `\preLilyPondExample' called before the music,

   * `\postLilyPondExample' called after the music,

   * `\betweenLilyPondSystem[1]' is called between systems if
 `lilypond-book' has split the snippet into several PostScript
 files.  It must be defined as taking one parameter and will be
 passed the number of files already included in this snippet.  The
 default is to simply insert a `\linebreak'.


So you need to define betweenLilyPondSystem to insert space, something
like

\newcommand\betweenLilyPondSystem[1]{\linebreak\vspace{5mm}}


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Re: Lilypondfile: does not seem to work

2008-05-12 Thread stefankaegi
Ok.

So well.. I tweaked a little bit and now it seems to work. What I wanted
is just the anhang (appendix) to be typesetted by lilypond, the other
examples I wanted as simple images. So I kept the file structure and
just made a file anhang.lytex which I compiled (tanks very much for the
make file) and then just included the anhang.pdf in the regular document
with includepdf. Then I had to tweak with setcounter and addtotoc. Well.
That's how it worked. Maybe there's a neater solution... 
But at all thanks a lot for your help.

Cheers Stefan


> This is the only thing I don't know how to do either. If I learn I'll 
> let you know.
> All the best,
> Hugo
> 
> stefankaegi escreveu:
> > That's great. :)
> > There's one thing left. Somehow the table of contents and the list of
> > figures isn't displayed. I don't know what I should do there to make it
> > work.
> > 
> > But thanks a lot for your help so far
> > 
> > Stefan
> > 
> >> Now it is working. I did a lot of changing, mainly the folders. I 
> >> deleted all. I don't know too much abou automatizing the 'makefile' so I 
> >> had to adapt your thesis to what I know.
> >>
> >> 1) I changed hauptdatei.tx to hauptdatei.lytex
> >> 2) I created a 'make' file. so now the only thing you need to do is to 
> >> type 'sh make' and let the computer do the rest.
> >> 3) I put all your tex files in the root directory, so the make file will 
> >> find them and work properly.
> >> 4) I created one folder to the graphics. I inserted one example using 
> >> your motivation graphic. Take a look at the PDF. In order to the 'make' 
> >> file find your graphics, I needed to specify the path in the main file.
> >> \graphicspath{{../graphics/}}
> >>
> >> 5) Now your mais file is like this:
> >>
> >> \begin{document}
> >> \graphicspath{{../graphics/}}
> >>
> >> \input{titlepage}
> >> \tableofcontents \setcounter{page}{1}
> >>
> >> \input{einleitung}
> >> \input{analyse}
> >> \input{feldarbeit}
> >> \input{schlusswort}
> >> \begin{appendix}
> >> \input{anhang}
> >> \end{appendix}
> >> \listoffigures
> >>
> >> \end{document}
> >>
> >> As you can see, I removed all the references to folders and subfolders.
> >>
> >> 6) In your lilypond files, that are in the 'lily-examples' folder, I 
> >> comented some lines in order to make the 'fragment' option work under 
> >> the lilypondfile options.
> >>
> >> That's it. I think all your problem was all those folders. I know that 
> >> it is possible to make it that way, but I don't know how. Puting all the 
> >> tex files in the root directory is enough to make it work.
> >>
> >> Any doubts, just send me an email.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> and don't forget to let me know when you finish your thesis.
> >>
> >> Hugo
> >>
> >> p.s. your files (altered) are attached.
> > 
> > 



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Re: Lilypondfile: does not seem to work

2008-05-11 Thread Hugo Ribeiro
If your file is a lytex file and you are using lilypond-book, I think 
the first mistake is the use of '\include'. Change it by '\input':


\input{kapitel/einleitung/einleitung}

anyway, send your folder to me and let me see if I can make it work.

Hugo.

p.s. I don't read German by can understand some words.

stefankaegi escreveu:

Hi

I just don't seem to grasp it.
I tried to do everything like you did. I have a hauptdatei.lytex
(mainfile) file which looks like the following:


\documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{scrreprt}
\usepackage{ngerman}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{typearea}
\usepackage[a4paper,left=2.5cm,right=2.5cm,top=2cm,bottom=3cm]{geometry}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{graphics}
\usepackage{setspace}
\usepackage{musixtex}

\onehalfspacing


\begin{document}

\include{titlepage/titlepage}
\tableofcontents \setcounter{page}{1}

\include{kapitel/einleitung/einleitung}
\include{kapitel/analyse/analyse}
\include{kapitel/feldarbeit/feldarbeit}
\include{kapitel/schlusswort/schlusswort}
\begin{appendix}
\include{kapitel/anhang/anhang}
\end{appendix}
\listoffigures

\end{document}


Sorry, I hope you understand it, it's german: kapitel means chapter,
then comes the chapter name (e.g. einleitung) and then the file (e.g.
einleitung(.tex) )

I just get some error messages when I try to run latex on the
hauptdatei.tex file in my out folder:


No file hauptdatei.aux.
! I can't write on file `titlepage/titlepage.aux'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...\immediate \openout [EMAIL PROTECTED] #1.aux 
  \immediate \write

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l.17 \include{titlepage/titlepage}
  
Please type another output file name:



The folder titlepage is on the same height as the kapitel folders in the
file structure and I get errors for those as well.

And btw: The link to the lilypond file is in kapitel/anhang/anhang
There I wrote:

\lilypondfile{morgentau.ly} since it's in the same folder


Thanks a lot for your help
Stefan





Here is my small example on how to use Lilypond-book. Just unzip this 
attached file, using a terminal shell, enter the folder "01" and run 
this command:

'sh makefile'

doing this you will see a pdf and ps file as a result. Good luck. Any 
doubt just let me know.


Take a look inside the 'makefile' file and try to discover what it does...

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Re: Lilypondfile: does not seem to work

2008-05-11 Thread stefankaegi
Hi

I just don't seem to grasp it.
I tried to do everything like you did. I have a hauptdatei.lytex
(mainfile) file which looks like the following:


\documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{scrreprt}
\usepackage{ngerman}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{typearea}
\usepackage[a4paper,left=2.5cm,right=2.5cm,top=2cm,bottom=3cm]{geometry}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{graphics}
\usepackage{setspace}
\usepackage{musixtex}

\onehalfspacing


\begin{document}

\include{titlepage/titlepage}
\tableofcontents \setcounter{page}{1}

\include{kapitel/einleitung/einleitung}
\include{kapitel/analyse/analyse}
\include{kapitel/feldarbeit/feldarbeit}
\include{kapitel/schlusswort/schlusswort}
\begin{appendix}
\include{kapitel/anhang/anhang}
\end{appendix}
\listoffigures

\end{document}


Sorry, I hope you understand it, it's german: kapitel means chapter,
then comes the chapter name (e.g. einleitung) and then the file (e.g.
einleitung(.tex) )

I just get some error messages when I try to run latex on the
hauptdatei.tex file in my out folder:


No file hauptdatei.aux.
! I can't write on file `titlepage/titlepage.aux'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...\immediate \openout [EMAIL PROTECTED] #1.aux 
  \immediate \write
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
l.17 \include{titlepage/titlepage}
  
Please type another output file name:


The folder titlepage is on the same height as the kapitel folders in the
file structure and I get errors for those as well.

And btw: The link to the lilypond file is in kapitel/anhang/anhang
There I wrote:

\lilypondfile{morgentau.ly} since it's in the same folder


Thanks a lot for your help
Stefan





> Here is my small example on how to use Lilypond-book. Just unzip this 
> attached file, using a terminal shell, enter the folder "01" and run 
> this command:
> 'sh makefile'
> 
> doing this you will see a pdf and ps file as a result. Good luck. Any 
> doubt just let me know.
> 
> Take a look inside the 'makefile' file and try to discover what it does...
> 
> Hugo Ribeiro...
> ...from Brazil 



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Re: Lilypondfile: does not seem to work

2008-05-10 Thread Graham Percival
The fundamental thing to remember is this:
  To use \lilypond or \begin{lilypond}, you need to write
  a .lytex file.  This *CANNOT* be done inside a .latex or .tex
  file.

  Use lilypond-book to translate from .lytex to .tex.

The makefile is just an automated way to do this.  If you prefer,
you could use a shell script, or even do it manually by hand.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:33:16 +0200
stefankaegi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Sorry. I hope I did it correctly with the mailinglist this time.
> 
> Well... Although I found this:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-03/msg00127.html
> 
> I don't get a clue at all. Most likely I'm too stupid. :/
> 
> Stefan
> 
> > Please keep the discussion on the mailist.
> > 
> > lilypond-book works quite well for such things; I'm using it for
> > my thesis.  Please search the mailist archives from about one or
> > two months ago; we discussed this recently, and I posted a working
> > example with a makefile.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > - Graham
> 
> 


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Re: Lilypondfile: does not seem to work

2008-05-10 Thread stefankaegi

Sorry. I hope I did it correctly with the mailinglist this time.

Well... Although I found this:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-03/msg00127.html

I don't get a clue at all. Most likely I'm too stupid. :/

Stefan

> Please keep the discussion on the mailist.
> 
> lilypond-book works quite well for such things; I'm using it for
> my thesis.  Please search the mailist archives from about one or
> two months ago; we discussed this recently, and I posted a working
> example with a makefile.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Graham




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Re: Lilypondfile: does not seem to work

2008-05-10 Thread Graham Percival
Please keep the discussion on the mailist.

lilypond-book works quite well for such things; I'm using it for
my thesis.  Please search the mailist archives from about one or
two months ago; we discussed this recently, and I posted a working
example with a makefile.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:05:11 +0200
stefankaegi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well.. Actually it's like the following.
> I'm writing a bigger document. So I splitted it up in several separate
> latex ones. And I assamble they in one file with \include.
> Now I tried out lilypond-book but the same error is produced and I
> can't see any lilypond output.
> 
> The file I use for lilypond-book is mainfile.tex . From the
> documentation it should work with such a file extension, not?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > You need to process your .lytex file with lilypond-book first.
> > Please see the docs.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > - Graham
> > 
> > On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:25:20 +0200
> > stefankaegi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi everybody
> > > 
> > > I'm kind of lost. I'm writing a document with latex and then
> > > tried at some point to integrate a lilypond file with:
> > > 
> > > \lilypondfile {/path/to/file/filename.ly}
> > > 
> > > It didn't work. There always came the following error:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ! Undefined control sequence.
> > > l.18 \lilypondfile
> > >{/path/to/file/filename.ly}
> > > ? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Maybe I had to load a package in latex? But I wouldn't no which
> > > one. At all there isn't a lilypond file in the output.
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot for your help
> > > Cheers
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: Lilypondfile: does not seem to work

2008-05-10 Thread Graham Percival
You need to process your .lytex file with lilypond-book first.
Please see the docs.

Cheers,
- Graham

On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:25:20 +0200
stefankaegi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi everybody
> 
> I'm kind of lost. I'm writing a document with latex and then tried at
> some point to integrate a lilypond file with:
> 
> \lilypondfile {/path/to/file/filename.ly}
> 
> It didn't work. There always came the following error:
> 
> 
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.18 \lilypondfile
>{/path/to/file/filename.ly}
> ? 
> 
> 
> Maybe I had to load a package in latex? But I wouldn't no which one.
> At all there isn't a lilypond file in the output.
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> lilypond-user@gnu.org
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