Re: splitting midi channels by voice

2003-09-23 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you haven't found it yet in the archives,

I hadn't.  Thanks!

 a solution was posted in
 http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-01/msg00088.html
 I hope it works also with the current versions of LilyPond.

Works like a charm.  Guess I need to but this in a template.

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Re: splitting midi channels by voice

2003-09-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If you haven't found it yet in the archives, a solution was posted
in
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-01/msg00088.html
I hope it works also with the current versions of LilyPond.
   Mats

arie-lily wrote:
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 20:11, Arvid Grøtting wrote:

arie-lily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


But it would be difficult for people who 'fix' things by inserting a
temporary voice on the staff.
I'm not suggesting to make it default, I'm simply asking if there's
some way I can do this in my own scores.


Yes sorry, I did not mean to oppose any good idea out of lazyness or
whatever, I was just thinking that assigning a midi channel to each
separate voice would lead to problems for those pple using temporary
voices to fix note layouts.
One obstacle however to move the assignment of midi channels from staff
to voice might be that maybe all the properties would have to be moved
from the staff context to the voice context, but I'm not aware so much
of the 'internals' of Lilypond.
But I agree that it would be nice indeed if one had the choice to assign
separate midi channels to separate voices, avoiding the need to write
each voice on a separate staff.
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Re: splitting midi channels by voice

2003-09-13 Thread arie-lily
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 20:11, Arvid Grøtting wrote:
 arie-lily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  But it would be difficult for people who 'fix' things by inserting a
  temporary voice on the staff.
 
 I'm not suggesting to make it default, I'm simply asking if there's
 some way I can do this in my own scores.

Yes sorry, I did not mean to oppose any good idea out of lazyness or
whatever, I was just thinking that assigning a midi channel to each
separate voice would lead to problems for those pple using temporary
voices to fix note layouts.

One obstacle however to move the assignment of midi channels from staff
to voice might be that maybe all the properties would have to be moved
from the staff context to the voice context, but I'm not aware so much
of the 'internals' of Lilypond.
But I agree that it would be nice indeed if one had the choice to assign
separate midi channels to separate voices, avoiding the need to write
each voice on a separate staff.

arie




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Re: splitting midi channels by voice

2003-09-12 Thread arie-lily
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 16:30, Arvid Grøtting wrote:
 If I understand the documentation and the config files correctly, each
 staff is output to a separate midi channel, but voices within a staff
 share that channel.
 
 Is there a simple way to output one midi channel per voice, instead of
 per staff?  This could be immensely useful for me when typesetting
 simple TTBB scores on two staves...

But it would be difficult for people who 'fix' things by inserting a
temporary voice on the staff.

arie




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Re: splitting midi channels by voice

2003-09-12 Thread Arvid Grøtting
arie-lily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But it would be difficult for people who 'fix' things by inserting a
 temporary voice on the staff.

I'm not suggesting to make it default, I'm simply asking if there's
some way I can do this in my own scores.

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Re: splitting midi channels by voice

2003-09-12 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Friday 12 September 2003 10:30 am, Arvid Grøtting wrote:
 If I understand the documentation and the config files correctly,
 each staff is output to a separate midi channel, but voices within a
 staff share that channel.

 Is there a simple way to output one midi channel per voice, instead
 of per staff?  This could be immensely useful for me when typesetting
 simple TTBB scores on two staves...

I asked for this and got it from Mats some time ago.  It's in the
archives.

If you use sly, it might be just as easy to maintain a separate midi 
version, initially using the same notes for both a two stave and a four 
stave version.   You might like more or different dynamics in the
midi version, for example.

The opposite problem of splitting voices was asked a little while
ago, but I still think that midi staves should be lilypond voices,
and the reason is that unisons just don't work on a midi staff
with more than one voice, and that's a built-in bug.  If splitting
to get huge numbers of parts is the reason for keeping things the
way they are, that limitation should be documented.  Better yet,
it should be documented anyway.

I used tuba, trumpet, clarinet and flute IIRC for a barbershop
quartet midi file for rehearsal purposes.  The contrasting
sounds made it easier for the singers to learn their parts
from the tape I made of the file.

If you're doing a lot of pieces of the same type, especially if you are 
making an anthology,  you could make two templates and generate two .ly 
files when you run sly on your notes.  Just a thought.  daveA

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