Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-16 Thread -Eluze


Tim Slattery-2 wrote:
 
 There are four voice parts, the \repeat volta 2 is in each one at the
 same place. I cannot figure out where the extra begin-repeat comes
 from.
 
did you run each voice seperately? from there it should be easy to check if
all the voices have the repeat at the same place!
hth
Eluze
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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure - Alexander.ly (1/1)

2009-02-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson
In the file you sent, there was no attempt to have a repeat in the 
middle of a measure.
However, in the three upper parts you had inserted the \repeat command 
at the beginning
of measure 9, whereas in the bass part you had inserted it at the 
beginning of measure 12,
which means that the typeset score will contain a beginning repeat both 
in measure 9 and 12.


Also, I didn't see  empty measure at the end, that you complained about.

Reading your emails again, I tried to figure out what you want to 
obtain. Perhaps it's like the
following (where I moved the \repeat command to 2 8th notes before 
measure 9 in all the parts)
and inserted suitable \bar commands to get the special repeat bar layout 
(it's enough to do it

in one of the parts, since the setting applies to the full score).

\include english.ly
\version 2.12.1
global = {
\key c \major
%\sacredHarpHeads
}

%#(set-default-paper-size letter 'landscape)

sopMusic = \relative c'' {
\time 6/8 \partial 8 g8 | g4 c8 c4 g8 | a4 a8 g4 f8 | g4 e8 c4 d8 | e2 
r8 f8|
g4 c8 c4 e8 | c4 a8 g4 f8 | e4 g8 d4 g8 | c,2 \repeat volta 2 {\bar : 
r8 g'8 | c4 g8 g4 b8 |

c4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 d8 e4 c8 | b2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a4 f8 f4 d8 |
e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |} \alternative { {e2 c2 r8 g'8 \bar : } {e2. 
c2.} }

}

altoMusic = \relative c''{
\time 6/8
\partial 8 g8 | e4 f8 g4 e8 | c4 d8 g4 b,8 | c4 a8 f4 g8 | g2 r8 b8 |
c4 d8 e4 e8 | f4 a,8 b4 d8 | c4 e8 a,4 b8 | g2 \repeat volta 2 {r8 g8 | 
e'4 g8 f4 d8 |

e4 f8 e4 g8 | c4 g8 a4 c8 | b2 r8 g8 | f4 f8 e4 c8 | f4 a,8 b4 g8 |
a4 a8 g4 g8 | } \alternative { { g2 r8 g8 } {g2.} }
}

tenorMusic = \relative c''{
\time 6/8
\partial 8 g8 | c4 c8 c4 g8 | a4 a8 g4 f8 | e4 c8 c4 d8 | e2 r8 g8 |
c 4 c8 c4 g8 | a8 c4 g4 f8 | e4 c8 d4 d8 | c2 \repeat volta 2 { r8 g'8 | 
c4 c8 d4 d8 |

e4 d8 c4 c8 | f4 f8 e16([c8.]) e8 | d2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a8 c4 g4 f8 |
e16 c16( c4) c4 d8 |} \alternative { {c2 r8 g'8 } {c2.} }
}

bassMusic = \relative c' {
\time 6/8
\partial 8 g8 | c,4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 a8 c4 g8 | c4 g,8 a4 a8 | c2 r8 g'8 |
e4 f8 g4 c,8 | f4 f8 e4 f8 | g4 e8 g,4 f'8 | e2  \repeat volta 2 { r8 e8 
| e4 e8 g4 g8 |

c4 g8 a4 g8 | a4 b8 c4 a8 | g2 r8 g8 | a4 f8 c4 c8 | f4 f8 d4 g,8 |
a4 a8 f4 g8 | } \alternative { { c2 r8 g8} { c2.} }
}

VerseOne = \lyricmode
{
\set stanza = 1. 
\set fontSize = #-0.75

As pear -- ly light be -- fore the dawn has thrust the dark a -- way, While
mourn -- ing doves and mock -- ing birds pro -- claim the ri -- sing 
day, We lift our hearts in
joy -- ful song, for night is fin -- 'ly done; and all our fears, our ma 
-- ny tears, may

van -- ish in the sun. We sun.
}

VerseTwo = \lyricmode
{
\set stanza = 2. 
\set fontSize = #-0.75
Shake off the drow -- sy dreams of night, and rise to tasete the dawn! A
thou -- sand charms may greet our eyes be -- fore the light is gone. We 
lift our hearts in
joy -- ful song, for night is fin -- 'ly done; and all our fears, our ma 
-- ny tears, may

van -- ish in the sun. We sun.
}

\header
{
  title = Alexander
  poet = Miriam A. Kilmer, 1997
  composer = Miriam A. Kilmer, 1997
}
\score {
\new ChoirStaff 
\new Staff = sops 
\new Voice =
sopranos {  \global \sopMusic  }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto sopranos \VerseOne


\new Staff = alts 
\clef treble
\new Voice =
altos {  \global \altoMusic  }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto altos \VerseTwo


\new Staff = tens 
\clef treble
\new Voice =
tenors {  \global \tenorMusic  }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto tenors \VerseOne


\new Staff = bas 
\clef bass
\new Voice =
bass {  \global \bassMusic  }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto bass \VerseTwo


\layout {
\context {
% a little smaller so lyrics
% can be closer to the staff
\Staff
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
}
}
}


  /Mats



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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-16 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2009 schrieb Tim Slattery:
 OK, I've switched to a more normal style (although I'd still like to
 get the more traditional style). The input for the section is question
 is:

  \repeat volta 2 {c4 g8 g4 b8 |
 c4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 d8 e4 c8 | b2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a4 f8 f4 d8 |
 e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |} \alternative { {e2 c2 r8 g'8} {e1. c1.} }

I suppose the last chord should have a duration of 2. rather than 1.? That 
explains the empty measure at the end (since you enter a duration that 
actually spans two measures!).

Cheers,
Reinhold


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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:



 \repeat volta 2 {c4 g8 g4 b8 |
c4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 d8 e4 c8 | b2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a4 f8 f4 d8 |
e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |} \alternative { {e2 c2 r8 g'8} {e1. c1.} }



I suppose the last chord should have a duration of 2. rather than 1.? That 
explains the empty measure at the end (since you enter a duration that 
actually spans two measures!).
  
In addition: If you want the note head that you get using e1., but not 
the extra empty measure,

just use e1.*1/2 (read about Scaling durations in the manual).

   /Mats


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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-16 Thread Laura Conrad
 Tim == Tim Slattery slatter...@bls.gov writes:

Tim Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote:
 I guess you have several voices or even several staves involved in your 
 piece. Note that the \repeat volta command should be inserted
 in all voices of music and also have to appear at exactly the same
 place in all the voices. If you don't manage to figure out what the 
 problem is, please send a complete (but small) example.

Tim There are four voice parts, the \repeat volta 2 is in each one at the
Tim same place. I cannot figure out where the extra begin-repeat comes
Tim from.

I have this problem quite frequently with the way I transcribe things,
and my solution is to insert the following in my scores:

\layout {
   \context{
  \Staff
\consists Timing_translator 
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
\consists Repeat_acknowledge_engraver
}
\context{
  \Score
 \remove Timing_translator 
 \remove Default_bar_line_engraver
 \remove Repeat_acknowledge_engraver
}
}


This removes the bar line and repeat engraving from the score context
to the staff context, so that I can see which staff has the wrong
barlines.

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-16 Thread Tim Slattery
Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote:

I suppose the last chord should have a duration of 2. rather than 1.? That 
explains the empty measure at the end (since you enter a duration that 
actually spans two measures!).

Yes, I found that. Fixing it made the extra measure at the end go
away, but the extra repeat is still there.

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure - Alexander.ly (1/1)

2009-02-16 Thread Tim Slattery
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote:

However, in the three upper parts you had inserted the \repeat command 
at the beginning of measure 9, whereas in the bass part you had inserted it at 
the 
beginning of measure 12,

Ugh! I knew it had to be something stupid that I did. Many thanks!

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure - Alexander.ly (0/1)

2009-02-16 Thread Michael Lauer
Tim Slattery Slattery_T at bls.gov writes:

 The \bar : gets me the repeat symbol I wanted. But the extra repeat
 is still there, and I'm getting more errors from this syntax 
 
 alexander2.ly:25:20: warning: not a grob name, `Barline'
   { \partial 8*4 g2
 \once \override Staff.Barline #'glyph-name = |}
 
 I'm attaching the original file.
 

BarLine has a capital L.

A slightly simpler thing that works as well is

\once \set Staff.whichBar = |






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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-15 Thread Tim Slattery
Tim Slattery slatter...@bls.gov wrote:

I've tried putting \repeat \volta 1{ in that spot and } at the end of
the piece. I get a thick bar line with a colon, and the corresponding
end repeat sign at the end of the piece. OK, but then there's another
begin-repeat symbol 4 measures after the one I specified and 4
measures before the end of the piece. Where did that come from?

OK, I've switched to a more normal style (although I'd still like to
get the more traditional style). The input for the section is question
is:

 \repeat volta 2 {c4 g8 g4 b8 |
c4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 d8 e4 c8 | b2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a4 f8 f4 d8 |
e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |} \alternative { {e2 c2 r8 g'8} {e1. c1.} } 

I get the repeat at the beginning, just as it should be, and two
endings at the end, as it should be. But the second ending has a
second, empty measure. Why? And there's still an extra begin-repeat
bar after the 4th measure (b2 r8 e8). I cannot see any reason whatever
for that to appear.

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I guess you have several voices or even several staves involved in your 
piece. Note that the \repeat volta command should be inserted

in all voices of music and also have to appear at exactly the same
place in all the voices. If you don't manage to figure out what the 
problem is, please send

a complete (but small) example.

  /Mats

Quoting Tim Slattery slatter...@bls.gov:


Tim Slattery slatter...@bls.gov wrote:


I've tried putting \repeat \volta 1{ in that spot and } at the end of
the piece. I get a thick bar line with a colon, and the corresponding
end repeat sign at the end of the piece. OK, but then there's another
begin-repeat symbol 4 measures after the one I specified and 4
measures before the end of the piece. Where did that come from?


OK, I've switched to a more normal style (although I'd still like to
get the more traditional style). The input for the section is question
is:

\repeat volta 2 {c4 g8 g4 b8 |
c4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 d8 e4 c8 | b2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a4 f8 f4 d8 |
e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |} \alternative { {e2 c2 r8 g'8} {e1. c1.} }

I get the repeat at the beginning, just as it should be, and two
endings at the end, as it should be. But the second ending has a
second, empty measure. Why? And there's still an extra begin-repeat
bar after the 4th measure (b2 r8 e8). I cannot see any reason whatever
for that to appear.

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-15 Thread Tim Slattery
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote:

I guess you have several voices or even several staves involved in your 
piece. Note that the \repeat volta command should be inserted
in all voices of music and also have to appear at exactly the same
place in all the voices. If you don't manage to figure out what the 
problem is, please send a complete (but small) example.

There are four voice parts, the \repeat volta 2 is in each one at the
same place. I cannot figure out where the extra begin-repeat comes
from.

Here are the four voice parts, if that's not enough, I'll send more.
The entire file is 105 lines long.

sopMusic = \relative c'' { 
\time 6/8 \partial 8 g8 | g4 c8 c4 g8 | a4 a8 g4 f8 | g4 e8 c4 d8 | e2
r8 f8|
g4 c8 c4 e8 | c4 a8 g4 f8 | e4 g8 d4 g8 | c,2 r8 g'8 | \repeat volta 2
{c4 g8 g4 b8 |
c4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 d8 e4 c8 | b2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a4 f8 f4 d8 |
e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |} \alternative { {e2 c2 r8 g'8} {e2. c2.} } 
}

altoMusic = \relative c''{
\time 6/8
\partial 8 g8 | e4 f8 g4 e8 | c4 d8 g4 b,8 | c4 a8 f4 g8 | g2 r8 b8 |
c4 d8 e4 e8 | f4 a,8 b4 d8 | c4 e8 a,4 b8 | g2 r8 g8 | \repeat volta 2
{e'4 g8 f4 d8 |
e4 f8 e4 g8 | c4 g8 a4 c8 | b2 r8 g8 | f4 f8 e4 c8 | f4 a,8 b4 g8 |
a4 a8 g4 g8 | } \alternative { { g2 r8 g8 } {g2.} }
}

tenorMusic = \relative c''{
\time 6/8
\partial 8 g8 | c4 c8 c4 g8 | a4 a8 g4 f8 | e4 c8 c4 d8 | e2 r8 g8 |
c 4 c8 c4 g8 | a8 c4 g4 f8 | e4 c8 d4 d8 | c2 r8 g'8 | \repeat volta 2
{ c4 c8 d4 d8 |
e4 d8 c4 c8 | f4 f8 e16([c8.]) e8 | d2 r8 e8 | c4 a8 g4 g8 | a8 c4 g4
f8 |
e16 c16( c4) c4 d8 |} \alternative { {c2 r8 g'8 } {c2.} } 
}

bassMusic = \relative c' {
\time 6/8
\partial 8 g8 | c,4 d8 e4 c8 | f4 a8 c4 g8 | c4 g,8 a4 a8 | c2 r8 g'8
|
e4 f8 g4 c,8 | f4 f8 e4 f8 | g4 e8 g,4 f'8 | e2 r8 e8 | e4 e8 g4 g8 |
c4 g8 a4 g8 | a4 b8 c4 a8 | g2 r8 g8 | \repeat volta 2 { a4 f8 c4 c8 |
f4 f8 d4 g,8 |
a4 a8 f4 g8 | } \alternative { { c2 r8 g8} { c2.} } 
}

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-15 Thread Michael Lauer
Tim Slattery Slattery_T at bls.gov writes:

 
 There are four voice parts, the \repeat volta 2 is in each one at the
 same place. I cannot figure out where the extra begin-repeat comes
 from.
 
 Here are the four voice parts, if that's not enough, I'll send more.
 The entire file is 105 lines long.
 

Do you have a global section in each voice with inconsistent repeats?
There still isn't enough information to tell what the problem is...

You can get what (I think) you originally wanted by
 - just putting the repeats where you want them
 - overriding the bar lines at the beginning and end of the repeats
   (the first one's easy, the second a bit obscure)
 - using \partial to reset the count.

The end of your soprano part might look like this:

e4 g8 d4 g8 | 
c,2 
\bar :
\repeat volta 2 {
r8 g'8 | 
c4 g8 g4 b8 |
c4 d8 e4 c8 | 
f4 d8 e4 c8 | 
b2 r8 e8 | 
c4 a8 g4 g8 | 
a4 f8 f4 d8 |
e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |
} \alternative { 
{ 
\partial 8*4 e2 c2 
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'glyph-name = |
} 
{ \partial 8*6 e2. c2. } 
} 


Hope this helps--
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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure

2009-02-15 Thread Tim Slattery
Michael Lauer mrlau...@yahoo.com wrote:


Do you have a global section in each voice with inconsistent repeats?
There still isn't enough information to tell what the problem is...

There's a global section that's included with each part. It has only
the key and the sacredNoteHeads directive:

global = {
\key c \major
\sacredHarpHeads
}


You can get what (I think) you originally wanted by
 - just putting the repeats where you want them
 - overriding the bar lines at the beginning and end of the repeats
   (the first one's easy, the second a bit obscure)
 - using \partial to reset the count.

The end of your soprano part might look like this:

I'll check this out. Thank you.

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure - Alexander.ly (1/1)

2009-02-15 Thread Tim Slattery

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Re: Repeat in the middle of a measure - Alexander.ly (0/1)

2009-02-15 Thread Tim Slattery
Michael Lauer mrlau...@yahoo.com wrote:

You can get what (I think) you originally wanted by
 - just putting the repeats where you want them
 - overriding the bar lines at the beginning and end of the repeats

The \bar : gets me the repeat symbol I wanted. But the extra repeat
is still there, and I'm getting more errors from this syntax 

alexander2.ly:25:20: warning: not a grob name, `Barline'
  { \partial 8*4 g2
\once \override Staff.Barline #'glyph-name = |}

I'm attaching the original file.

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