Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Henrik Frisk
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Henrik Frisk wrote:
 
 That would actually be pretty neat...
 
 Sponsored feature, anyone?
 
  This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you
  mean. Once
  I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
  the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
  with the old one?
 
 Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you
 only have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch.
 
  If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.
 
 That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd
 have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface.  I'd guess
 that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude.
 
Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a
valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor?

/henrik


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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Stephen Corey

Henrik Frisk wrote:


Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Henrik Frisk wrote:
   


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?

   


This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you
mean. Once
I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
with the old one?
 


Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you
only have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch.

   


If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.
 


That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd
have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface.  I'd guess
that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude.

   


Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a
valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor?

/henrik



 

Hello, this is my newbie post.  I've been using Lilypond with jEdit for 
about 2 months now for arranging instrumental parts.  The only challenge 
has been learning some of the syntax but I can't complain.  You have 
done a wonderful job with this software.  I'd be interested in helping 
to support getting this Scribus feature up and running.  Also, are there 
any user groups in the Eastern U.S. or parties interested in perhaps a 
workshop?


Stephen Corey
Richmond, Virginia, USA



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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Marc Weber
 Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a
 valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor?

Why not ask the Scribus developpers wether they are interested...
It would be a feature no other DTP-software has... ;-)

Marc


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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Arthur Dyck wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what it is you want to do with this plugin.  If it 
is just a matter of updating the pdf once you have edited the .ly file, 
Scribus has a feature where you can select your pdf image and there is an 
Update feature.  I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect you could just do your 
editing, create your pdf, go over to Scribus and Update your image.


Yes, but you have to work with multiple files, and multiple 
applications. That gets tiresome and errorprone if you have many (over 
40) fragments.


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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-03 Thread Arthur Dyck
On Thursday 03 November 2005 02:35 pm, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
 Arthur Dyck wrote:
  I'm not sure I understand what it is you want to do with this plugin.  If
  it is just a matter of updating the pdf once you have edited the .ly
  file, Scribus has a feature where you can select your pdf image and there
  is an Update feature.  I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect you could
  just do your editing, create your pdf, go over to Scribus and Update your
  image.

 Yes, but you have to work with multiple files, and multiple
 applications. That gets tiresome and errorprone if you have many (over
 40) fragments.


Maybe I'm living in blissful ignorance of the problems that are ahead of me.  
The project I'm working on will have well over a hundred fragments.

Arthur


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Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Arthur Dyck
I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based desktop 
publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has some interesting 
features.  Basically, you define your page size with borders and then create 
text or image boxes for your input.  You can import lilypond pdf images 
directly into your image box.  You can then put transparent text boxes on top 
of your image allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't 
recommend it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some 
interesting possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use 
Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making for 
some long -- but fun -- days.

Arthur


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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Arthur Dyck wrote:
I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based desktop 
publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has some interesting 
features.  Basically, you define your page size with borders and then create 
text or image boxes for your input.  You can import lilypond pdf images 
directly into your image box.  You can then put transparent text boxes on top 
of your image allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't 
recommend it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some 
interesting possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use 
Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making for 
some long -- but fun -- days.


I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little 
plugin that takes .ly code,  runs it through lily, and pasts back the 
resulting PDF files.


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?

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Re: [SPAM] Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread andrea valle
(I did exactly that job using ConTeXt as typesetting environment for my 
scores.  We discussed of lily in the ConTeXt mailing list for a while. 
Here two half-finished 
works:www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/nodi-I.pdf

www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/nodi-II.pdf

score fragments by lily, graph and general typesetting by ConTeXt
)

Best

-a-


On 2 Nov 2005, at 16:41, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Arthur Dyck wrote:
I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based 
desktop publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has 
some interesting features.  Basically, you define your page size with 
borders and then create text or image boxes for your input.  You can 
import lilypond pdf images directly into your image box.  You can 
then put transparent text boxes on top of your image allowing you to 
do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't recommend it for a an 
ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some interesting 
possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use 
Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making 
for some long -- but fun -- days.


I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little 
plugin that takes .ly code,  runs it through lily, and pasts back the 
resulting PDF files.


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?

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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Henrik Frisk
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Arthur Dyck wrote:
  I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based
  desktop publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has
  some interesting features.  Basically, you define your page size
  with borders and then create text or image boxes for your input.
  You can import lilypond pdf images directly into your image box.
  You can then put transparent text boxes on top of your image
  allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't recommend
  it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some
  interesting possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and
  how to use Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so
  it's making for some long -- but fun -- days.
 
 I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little
 plugin that takes .ly code,  runs it through lily, and pasts back the
 resulting PDF files.
 
 That would actually be pretty neat...
 
 Sponsored feature, anyone?
 
This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you mean. Once
I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
with the old one? If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.

/Henrik


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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Henrik Frisk wrote:


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?



This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you mean. Once
I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
with the old one?


Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you only 
have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch.



If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.


That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd 
have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface.  I'd guess 
that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude.


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 -- Code for Music Notation
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