Re: Stanzas over staves
On 22-4-2018 19:33, Helge Kruse wrote:
Glad to here that's working for you. Unfortunately this doesn't work for
me. I reordered the lines a bit because I think that the override
changes the line-width property of wordwrap-string. But the reordering
doesn't change the ouput. The text crosses several measures in this
example. I thought that \with-dimensions defines the extend of the
markup. But this doesn't affect the measure width.
Regards
Helge
%%BEGIN
\version "2.19.65"
narrator=#(define-music-function (dim text) (number? string?)
#{
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #(cons 0 (+ dim 2)) #'(0 . 0)
\whiteout
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\override #(cons (quote line-width) dim )
\wordwrap-string #text
#})
{
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff {
s1
\narrator 30 "The brown fox jumps quickly over the lazy dog."
s1 s
}
\new Staff { s1 s s s }
>>
}
%%END
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Add " \once\override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)" to the
function. Then it works. Don't know why...
narrator=#(define-music-function
(dim text) (number? string?)
#{
\once\override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #(cons 0 (+ dim 2)) #'(0 . 0)
\whiteout
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\override #(cons (quote line-width) dim)
\wordwrap-string #text
#})
Regards,
Auke
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Re: Stanzas over staves
Am 20.04.2018 um 07:58 schrieb Partitura Organum:
>
>
> On 19-4-2018 22:19, Thomas Morley wrote:
>> The function expects `text' to be a string. So
>> (1) use wordwrap-string
>> (2) without {}
>
> Thank you, now it works. And I learned how to do calculations in scheme
> along the way as well. So the narrator function should be
>
> narrator=#(define-music-function
> (dim text) (number? string?)
> #{
> s1^\markup
> \with-dimensions #(cons 0 (+ dim 2)) #'(0 . 0)
> \whiteout
> \override #(cons (quote line-width) dim)
> \translate #'(0 . -1.5)
> \wordwrap-string #text
> #})
Glad to here that's working for you. Unfortunately this doesn't work for
me. I reordered the lines a bit because I think that the override
changes the line-width property of wordwrap-string. But the reordering
doesn't change the ouput. The text crosses several measures in this
example. I thought that \with-dimensions defines the extend of the
markup. But this doesn't affect the measure width.
Regards
Helge
%%BEGIN
\version "2.19.65"
narrator=#(define-music-function (dim text) (number? string?)
#{
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #(cons 0 (+ dim 2)) #'(0 . 0)
\whiteout
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\override #(cons (quote line-width) dim )
\wordwrap-string #text
#})
{
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff {
s1
\narrator 30 "The brown fox jumps quickly over the lazy dog."
s1 s
}
\new Staff { s1 s s s }
>>
}
%%END
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Re: Stanzas over staves
On 19-4-2018 22:19, Thomas Morley wrote:
The function expects `text' to be a string. So
(1) use wordwrap-string
(2) without {}
Thank you, now it works. And I learned how to do calculations in scheme
along the way as well. So the narrator function should be
narrator=#(define-music-function
(dim text) (number? string?)
#{
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #(cons 0 (+ dim 2)) #'(0 . 0)
\whiteout
\override #(cons (quote line-width) dim)
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\wordwrap-string #text
#})
Regards,
Auke
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Re: Stanzas over staves
2018-04-19 21:09 GMT+02:00 Partitura Organum :
>
>
> On 19-4-2018 00:30, Simon Albrecht wrote:
>>
>> You have to quote line-width because it’s a symbol, not a variable. That
>> can also be done in a verbose or in a practical way:
>> \override #(cons 'line-width dim)
>> or
>> \override #(cons (quote line-width) dim).
>> The two are exactly equivalent.
>
>
> The second is new for me, nice to learn. The first form I did try (after
> having found out about cons). It does compile, but it does not work.
> Somehow, inside a scheme function the 'line-width argument does not point to
> the actual line-width property of the markup being constructed.
>
> I.e. this does work as intended:
>
> scoreAUpperHarpI = \relative c'' {
> \once\override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
> s1^\markup
> \with-dimensions #'(0 . 22) #'(0 . 0)
> \whiteout \override #'(line-width . 20)
> \translate #'(0 . 0)
> \wordwrap { Ah, how oft we read or hear of Boys we almost stand in
> fear of! For example, take these stories
>}
> }
>
> scoreALowerHarpI = \relative c' { s1 }
>
> scoreAHarpIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
> instrumentName = "Harfe I"
> } <<
> \new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpI
> \new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpI }
>>>
>
> \score {
> <<
> \scoreAHarpIPart
> >>
> \layout { }
> }
>
>
> However, when transforming this into a scheme function the line-width and
> wordwrap do not work as intended:
>
> narrator=#(define-music-function
> (parser location dim text) (number? string?)
>
>#{
> \override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . -0.50)
> s1^\markup
> \with-dimensions #(cons 0 dim) #'(0 . 0)
> \whiteout
> \override #(cons (quote line-width) dim)
> \translate #'(0 . -1.5)
> \wordwrap { #text }
The function expects `text' to be a string. So
(1) use wordwrap-string
(2) without {}
>#})
>
> scoreAUpperHarpII = \relative c'' {
> \narrator#30 "Of named Max and Moritz, Who, instead of early turning
> etcetc"
> }
>
> scoreALowerHarpII= \relative c' { s1 }
>
> scoreAHarpIIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
> instrumentName = "Harfe II"
> } <<
> \new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpII
> \new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpII }
>>>
>
> \score {
> <<
> \scoreAHarpIIPart
> >>
> \layout { }
> }
>
> How should the function be constructued toi make this work an intended?
>
> Regards,
> Auke
>
Cheers,
Harm
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Re: Stanzas over staves
On 19-4-2018 00:30, Simon Albrecht wrote:
You have to quote line-width because it’s a symbol, not a variable.
That can also be done in a verbose or in a practical way:
\override #(cons 'line-width dim)
or
\override #(cons (quote line-width) dim).
The two are exactly equivalent.
The second is new for me, nice to learn. The first form I did try (after
having found out about cons). It does compile, but it does not work.
Somehow, inside a scheme function the 'line-width argument does not
point to the actual line-width property of the markup being constructed.
I.e. this does work as intended:
scoreAUpperHarpI = \relative c'' {
\once\override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 22) #'(0 . 0)
\whiteout \override #'(line-width . 20)
\translate #'(0 . 0)
\wordwrap { Ah, how oft we read or hear of Boys we almost stand
in fear of! For example, take these stories
}
}
scoreALowerHarpI = \relative c' { s1 }
scoreAHarpIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe I"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpI
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpI }
>>
\score {
<<
\scoreAHarpIPart
>>
\layout { }
}
However, when transforming this into a scheme function the line-width
and wordwrap do not work as intended:
narrator=#(define-music-function
(parser location dim text) (number? string?)
#{
\override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . -0.50)
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #(cons 0 dim) #'(0 . 0)
\whiteout
\override #(cons (quote line-width) dim)
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\wordwrap { #text }
#})
scoreAUpperHarpII = \relative c'' {
\narrator#30 "Of named Max and Moritz, Who, instead of early turning
etcetc"
}
scoreALowerHarpII= \relative c' { s1 }
scoreAHarpIIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe II"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpII
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpII }
>>
\score {
<<
\scoreAHarpIIPart
>>
\layout { }
}
How should the function be constructued toi make this work an intended?
Regards,
Auke
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Re: Stanzas over staves
On 18.04.2018 23:20, Partitura Organum wrote: My scheme knowledge is very very limited. I just found out one can construct a pair in a scheme function like this: #(cons a b) where a and b are the values. So for your function "narrator", this would become: \with-dimensions #(cons 0 dim) #'(0 . 0) Good call, that’s another way to do it. I am however lost how to make "\override #'(line-width . dim)" work inside this scheme-function. You have to quote line-width because it’s a symbol, not a variable. That can also be done in a verbose or in a practical way: \override #(cons 'line-width dim) or \override #(cons (quote line-width) dim). The two are exactly equivalent. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Stanzas over staves
On 18-4-2018 20:26, Helge Kruse wrote:
Am 18.04.2018 um 12:39 schrieb Engraver:
I use "with-dimensions" if I want to place some text over staves. And
"\whiteout" can be used to blot out the staff-lines. See attached.
It's rather hackish, so I hope the more knowledgeable members of the
list have a more elegant solution for you.
This is one approach I would follow.
Since this repeats I would like to put this to a scheme construct. But I
don't have sufficient knowledge. Here is my (failed) try:
%%START
\version "2.19.65"
narrator =
#(define-music-function (dim text) (integer? string?)
#{
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #'(0 . dim) #'(0 . 0)
\override #'(line-width . dim)
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\wordwrap { text }
#})
\score {
\narrator #1 "The message"
}
%%END
It looks like the parameter 'dim' can't be used in this way to build a
valid parameter to with-dimension. Is this true? How to do it correctly?
How could I pass 'dim+2' to the override of line-width?
Regards,
Helge
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My scheme knowledge is very very limited. I just found out one can
construct a pair in a scheme function like this:
#(cons a b)
where a and b are the values. So for your function "narrator", this
would become:
\with-dimensions #(cons 0 dim) #'(0 . 0)
I am however lost how to make "\override #'(line-width . dim)" work
inside this scheme-function.
Regards,
Auke
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Re: Stanzas over staves
On 18.04.2018 20:26, Helge Kruse wrote: It looks like the parameter 'dim' can't be used in this way to build a valid parameter to with-dimension. Is this true? How to do it correctly? You need quasi-quotation: \with-dimensions #`(0 . ,dim) #'(0 . 0) For more on this, consult the Extending Guide to LilyPond, the Guile 1.8 reference manual or any other Scheme resource of your liking. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Stanzas over staves
Am 18.04.2018 um 12:39 schrieb Engraver:
> I use "with-dimensions" if I want to place some text over staves. And
> "\whiteout" can be used to blot out the staff-lines. See attached.
> It's rather hackish, so I hope the more knowledgeable members of the
> list have a more elegant solution for you.
This is one approach I would follow.
Since this repeats I would like to put this to a scheme construct. But I
don't have sufficient knowledge. Here is my (failed) try:
%%START
\version "2.19.65"
narrator =
#(define-music-function (dim text) (integer? string?)
#{
s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #'(0 . dim) #'(0 . 0)
\override #'(line-width . dim)
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\wordwrap { text }
#})
\score {
\narrator #1 "The message"
}
%%END
It looks like the parameter 'dim' can't be used in this way to build a
valid parameter to with-dimension. Is this true? How to do it correctly?
How could I pass 'dim+2' to the override of line-width?
Regards,
Helge
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Fwd: Re: Stanzas over staves
On 18-4-2018 07:20, Helge Kruse wrote:
But there are some open points.
- The harp requires two staff lines. I managed to remove the
outside-staff-priority for one staff. But the other staff line is
pushed away. How can I use both staves of one harp for the text? How
could I place the text covering all staves of the score and avoid
Lilyponds anti-collision routines that moves the staff lines away?
- The readability of the text could be improved by changing to color
of the lines in the narrative measure to gray, light gray, or probably
white. LSR #700 shows a way to color staff lines. But is there a
simpler way when I need a common color for all lines?
Best regards
Helge
I use "with-dimensions" if I want to place some text over staves. And
"\whiteout" can be used to blot out the staff-lines. See attached.
It's rather hackish, so I hope the more knowledgeable members of the
list have a more elegant solution for you.
Regards,
Auke
\version "2.19.80"
\header {
title = "Max and Moritz"
}
% http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=780
narrative = {
\once\override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
%\once\override TextScript.Y-offset = #2
%\once\override TextScript.outside-staff-priority = ##f
%\once\override TextScript.self-alignment-X = #LEFT
%\once\override Stem.transparent = ##t
%\once\override NoteHead.transparent = ##t
%\once\override NoteHead.no-ledgers = ##t
}
scoreAUpperHarpI = \relative c'' {
c4 4 4 4
s1
s
\narrative s1^\markup
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 42) #'(0 . 0)
\override #'(line-width . 40)
\translate #'(0 . -1.5)
\wordwrap { Of two youths, named Max and Moritz, Who, instead of early turning Their young minds to useful learning, Often leered with horrid features At their lessons and their teachers. }
s
}
scoreALowerHarpI = \relative c' { s1 s s s s }
scoreAUpperHarpII = \relative c'' {
s1
\narrative s^\markup
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 22) #'(0 . 0)
\whiteout \override #'(line-width . 20)
\translate #'(0 . 0)
\wordwrap { Ah, how oft we read or hear of Boys we almost stand in fear of! For example, take these stories
}
s1
s
e4 4 4 4
}
scoreALowerHarpII = \relative c' { s1 s s s s }
scoreAUpperHarpIII = \relative c'' { s s | d4 4 4 4 | s1 s }
scoreALowerHarpIII = \relative c' { s1 s s s s }
scoreAHarpIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe I"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpI
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpI }
>>
scoreAHarpIIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe II"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpII
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpII }
>>
scoreAHarpIIIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe III"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpIII
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpIII }
>>
\score {
<<
\scoreAHarpIPart
\scoreAHarpIIPart
\scoreAHarpIIIPart
>>
\layout { }
}
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Re: Stanzas over staves
Am 17.04.2018 um 21:13 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
it looks like you simply want to stack the text as markup above a measure-long
rest (with fermatas in all parts, I would assume?).
Oh, my bad wording. I mean not above the lines but inside.
That's definitely a simple situation, easy to accomplish in Lilypond. Maybe try
something like
Combining your snippet with snippet #780 from the Lilypond snippet
repository I was able to create a minimum example. This shows how the
text should overlap the staff. The choosen staff idicates what player is
the narrator at the given measure.
But there are some open points.
- The harp requires two staff lines. I managed to remove the
outside-staff-priority for one staff. But the other staff line is pushed
away. How can I use both staves of one harp for the text? How could I
place the text covering all staves of the score and avoid Lilyponds
anti-collision routines that moves the staff lines away?
- The readability of the text could be improved by changing to color of
the lines in the narrative measure to gray, light gray, or probably
white. LSR #700 shows a way to color staff lines. But is there a simpler
way when I need a common color for all lines?
Best regards
Helge
\version "2.19.80"
\header {
title = "Max and Moritz"
}
% http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=780
narrative = {
\once\override TextScript.extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
\once\override TextScript.Y-offset = #-.5
\once\override TextScript.outside-staff-priority = ##f
\once\override TextScript.self-alignment-X = #LEFT
\once\override Stem.transparent = ##t
\once\override NoteHead.transparent = ##t
\once\override NoteHead.no-ledgers = ##t
}
scoreAUpperHarpI = \relative c'' {
c4 4 4 4
s1
s
\narrative s1^\markup
\override #'(line-width . 40)
\wordwrap { Of two youths, named Max and Moritz, Who, instead of early turning Their young minds to useful learning, Often leered with horrid features At their lessons and their teachers. }
s
}
scoreALowerHarpI = \relative c' { s1 s s s s }
scoreAUpperHarpII = \relative c'' {
s1
\narrative
s^\markup
\override #'(line-width . 20)
\wordwrap { Ah, how oft we read or hear of Boys we almost stand in fear of! For example, take these stories
}
s1
s
e4 4 4 4
}
scoreALowerHarpII = \relative c' { s1 s s s s }
scoreAUpperHarpIII = \relative c'' { s s | d4 4 4 4 | s1 s }
scoreALowerHarpIII = \relative c' { s1 s s s s }
scoreAHarpIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe I"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpI
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpI }
>>
scoreAHarpIIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe II"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpII
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpII }
>>
scoreAHarpIIIPart = \new PianoStaff \with {
instrumentName = "Harfe III"
} <<
\new Staff = "upper" \scoreAUpperHarpIII
\new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass \scoreALowerHarpIII }
>>
\score {
<<
\scoreAHarpIPart
\scoreAHarpIIPart
\scoreAHarpIIIPart
>>
\layout { }
}
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Re: Stanzas over staves
Hi again,
Given your example:
> measure 1: some notes
> measure 2: text: This is the story of Max and Moritz
> measure 3: some notes
> measure 4: text: Moritz
> measure 5,6: more notes
> measure 7: text AH, how oft we read or hear of Boys we almost stand in
> fear of! For example, take these stories of two youths, named Max and
> Moritz (as stack of lines)
> measure 8-20: many notes
it looks like you simply want to stack the text as markup above a measure-long
rest (with fermatas in all parts, I would assume?). That's definitely a simple
situation, easy to accomplish in Lilypond. Maybe try something like
%%% SNIPPET BEGINS
\version "2.19.80"
\language "english"
musicandtext = {
c'4 d' e' f'
\tweak minimum-length #24 R1\fermataMarkup^\markup \override #'(line-width .
20) \override #'(baseline-skip . 2.3) \wordwrap { This is a very long bit of
dialogue, which will wrap to the length you want. }
}
\score { \musicandtext }
%%% SNIPPET ENDS
Of course, if you’re doing a lot of it, you should make a function which does
all the appropriate things for you. Syntactic sugar is the best kind of sugar.
=)
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
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Stanzas over staves
I am starting a small project for a harp trio. The score is in most part "just" harp music. But in some measure one of the players shall recite some text of the literary source. Example: measure 1: some notes measure 2: text: This is the story of Max and Moritz measure 3: some notes measure 4: text: Moritz measure 5,6: more notes measure 7: text AH, how oft we read or hear of Boys we almost stand in fear of! For example, take these stories of two youths, named Max and Moritz (as stack of lines) measure 8-20: many notes This is different from lyrics to a song since there - is no melody, even no rythm, for the syllables - is not sufficient space to write this outside the staves - are multiple lines to place at (to stack) Do you have a snippet where something similar has already been implemented or some hint how I can approach this? One approach would be to spread empty measures and to add the text manually or with some glue and additional paper. This leads to the question how to stretch an empty measure? But it would be nice to enter the text in the Lilypond score. Best regards Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
