Ties and repeats

[Frank Wuest]

Hi everyone,

I'm currently transforming the bass part of a big band arrangement (8 pages, 
boo!)
into a more usable form. That means using a bunch of repeats with alternatives, 
plus
ties across these alternatives. 

Now I know that regular ties don't work from the end of an alternative to the 
beginning
of the repeat, but I found \laissezVibrer to be good enough for me. It would 
probably be useful 
to add a pointer to that in the documentation on repeats.


I have a minor problem in one place where I have a tie from the end of the 
first alternative
to the beginning of the repeat but no tie before the beginning of the repeat. 


I'd like to get something like \repeatTie with parentheses akin to cautionary 
accidentals.
Is there a way to accomplish this?

Thanks,

Frank

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Re: Ties and repeats

[Simon Albrecht]

On 16.09.2015 12:03, Frank Wuest wrote:


I'd like to get something like \repeatTie with parentheses akin to cautionary 
accidentals.
Is there a way to accomplish this?


Have a look at 
.


HTH, Simon

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Re: Ties and repeats

[David Kastrup]

Frank Wuest  writes:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm currently transforming the bass part of a big band arrangement (8
> pages, boo!)
> into a more usable form. That means using a bunch of repeats with
> alternatives, plus
> ties across these alternatives. 
>
> Now I know that regular ties don't work from the end of an alternative
> to the beginning
> of the repeat, but I found \laissezVibrer to be good enough for me. It
> would probably be useful
> to add a pointer to that in the documentation on repeats.
>
>
> I have a minor problem in one place where I have a tie from the end of
> the first alternative
> to the beginning of the repeat but no tie before the beginning of the repeat. 
>
>
> I'd like to get something like \repeatTie with parentheses akin to
> cautionary accidentals.
> Is there a way to accomplish this?

Well, if you include a rather horrific bug workaround, you can do this
with something like

{ c'1-\tweak RepeatTieColumn.cause ##f \parenthesize \repeatTie }

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[Cynthia Karl]

> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:45:27 +0200
> From: David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>
> To: Frank Wuest <frankmwu...@yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: Ties and repeats
> 
> Frank Wuest <frankmwu...@yahoo.de> writes:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Hi, David,

Most of your responses on the lilypond-user Digest come to me as of late so:

>> Is there a way to accomplish this?
> 
> Well, if you include a rather horrific bug workaround, you can do this
> with something like
> 
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> 
I went to the archive and found that your response was actually:

> { c'1-\tweak RepeatTieColumn.cause ##f \parenthesize \repeatTie }

Do you know why this “non-text attachment” scrubbing has become necessary for 
your posts.  It wouldn’t be so bad, but the link given in the URL: field in 
these “next part” segments does not work.  So I have to go to the archive 
manually, find the appropriate subject, then find your response to see your 
words of wisdom.  I hate to miss any of your responses, but sometimes that’s 
just too much work.

Thanks



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Re: Ties and repeats

[Simon Albrecht]

On 16.09.2015 12:45, David Kastrup wrote:

Frank Wuest  writes:


Hi everyone,

I'm currently transforming the bass part of a big band arrangement (8
pages, boo!)
into a more usable form. That means using a bunch of repeats with
alternatives, plus
ties across these alternatives.

Now I know that regular ties don't work from the end of an alternative
to the beginning
of the repeat, but I found \laissezVibrer to be good enough for me. It
would probably be useful
to add a pointer to that in the documentation on repeats.


I have a minor problem in one place where I have a tie from the end of
the first alternative
to the beginning of the repeat but no tie before the beginning of the repeat.


I'd like to get something like \repeatTie with parentheses akin to
cautionary accidentals.
Is there a way to accomplish this?

Well, if you include a rather horrific bug workaround, you can do this
with something like







Nice file name :-)
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Ties across repeats

[Maarten de Keijzer]

How can you ‘program’ ties across the alternative path of a repeat volta,
to avoid untied notes or chords in the last part?
Like in the included example.


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Re: Ties across repeats

[David Kastrup]

Maarten de Keijzer maarten.de.keij...@hccnet.nl writes:

 How can you ‘program’ ties across the alternative path of a repeat volta,
 to avoid untied notes or chords in the last part?
 Like in the included example.

URL:http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#index-repeatTie-1

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Re: Ties across repeats (David Kastrup)

[David Kastrup]

Maarten de Keijzer maarten.de.keij...@hccnet.nl writes:

From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Ties across repeats
Maarten de Keijzer maarten.de.keij...@hccnet.nl writes:

 How can you ?program? ties across the alternative path of a repeat 
 volta, to avoid untied notes or chords in the last part?
 Like in the included example.

 URL:http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythm
 s#index-repeatTie-1

David Kastrup

 Great, that's exactly what I needed.
 As often: it is not that difficult, but hard to find ...

It's in the notation manual in both the sections Ties and Normal
repeats, and it is in the index under ties, repeating ties,
alternative endings ties in repeats ties and volta brackets
repeats, with ties repeating ties and some others.

If you are calling this hard to find, what would you call easy to
find?

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