Trying to displace note heads from stem

2015-10-25 Thread Ryan Michael 
I know there are ways in lilypond to not display the stem. I would
like to do something slightly different, which is to position the note head
associated with a stem at varying distances away from the stem to denote a
relative rhythmic placement which can be seen in Xenakis' Mists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH4j70KU-RQ at 3:42 so you can see what I
am trying to achieve.
Thanks!
Ryan.
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Re: Trying to displace note heads from stem

2015-10-25 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Use X-offset for the stems.

For example:

  \once \override Stem.X-offset = #n

where n is positive or negative.

Andrew



On 25 Oct 2015, at 17:48, Ryan Michael  wrote:

I know there are ways in lilypond to not display the stem. I would 
like to do something slightly different, which is to position the note head
associated with a stem at varying distances away from the stem to denote a 
relative rhythmic placement which can be seen in Xenakis' Mists 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH4j70KU-RQ 
 at 3:42 so you can see what I am 
trying to achieve. 

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Re: Trying to displace note heads from stem

2015-10-25 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider 
Hi Ryan,

As each note head has its proper alignment, I don't see how this can be
achieved without using markups.
Long work though...

Something like :

\version "2.19.29"
#(set-global-staff-size 15)
\paper {
  indent = 0
  ragged-right = ##f
}

\new PianoStaff \with {
\omit TimeSignature
\consists #Span_stem_engraver
  } <<
  \new Staff \with {
  \clef G
  \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 15))
}  <<
\new Voice \relative {
  \voiceOne
  \override Beam.positions = #'(10 . 10)
  \override NoteHead.stencil = ##f
  c'16 16 8 8 16 16 16 8 16
  \set subdivideBeams = ##t
  \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
  \repeat unfold 5 { c16 c c c }
}
\new Voice \relative {
  \voiceTwo
  \override TextScript.padding = #'()
  s16 s
  -\tweak extra-offset #'(-2 . -11)
  ^\markup {
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
\score {
  \magnifyMusic 0.8 { a''!4 }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Score
\omit StaffSymbol
\omit Clef
\omit TimeSignature
\omit Stem
  }
}
  }
}
  -\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . -11.5)
  ^\markup {
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
\score {
  \magnifyMusic 0.8 { b''4 }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Score
\omit StaffSymbol
\omit Clef
\omit TimeSignature
\omit Stem
  }
}
  }
}
  }
  >>
  \new Dynamics { s1-\tweak extra-offset #'(1.8 . -1.8) \p s }
  \new Staff \with { \clef F } <<
\new Voice \relative {
  \voiceOne
  \override Beam.stencil = ##f
  \override NoteHead.stencil = ##f
  \crossStaff {
e,16 16 8 8 16 16 16 8 16
\set subdivideBeams = ##t
\set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
\repeat unfold 5 { e16 e e e }
  }
}
\new Voice {
  \voiceTwo
  s16
  _\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1.5)
  ^\markup {
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
\score {
  \magnifyMusic 0.8 {
c''4
-\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . -2)
_\markup\concat {
  \lower  #.2 \italic "8"
  \path #0.1 #'((lineto 7 0)(lineto 7 1))
}
  }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Score
\omit StaffSymbol
\omit Clef
\omit TimeSignature
\omit Stem
  }
}
  }
}
  _\tweak extra-offset #'(1.8 . 2)
  ^\markup {
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
\score  {
  \magnifyMusic 0.8 { gis'4 }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Score
\omit StaffSymbol
\omit Clef
\omit TimeSignature
\omit Stem
  }
}
  }
}
  _\tweak extra-offset #'(4 . 3.5)
  ^\markup {
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
\score  {
  \magnifyMusic 0.8 { fis4 }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Score
\omit StaffSymbol
\omit Clef
\omit TimeSignature
\omit Stem
  }
}
  }
}
}
\new Voice {
  \voiceThree
  s1 \bar "" s
}
  >>
>>

Just thinking,
HTH,
Pierre


2015-10-25 7:48 GMT+01:00 Ryan Michael :

> I know there are ways in lilypond to not display the stem. I would
> like to do something slightly different, which is to position the note head
> associated with a stem at varying distances away from the stem to denote a
> relative rhythmic placement which can be seen in Xenakis' Mists
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH4j70KU-RQ at 3:42 so you can see what I
> am trying to achieve.
> Thanks!
> Ryan.
>
>
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Re: Trying to displace note heads from stem

2015-10-25 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider 
Or shorter :

\version "2.19.29"
#(set-global-staff-size 15)
\paper {
  indent = 0
  ragged-right = ##f
}

xen = #(define-scheme-function (parser location music)
  (ly:music?)
   #{
\markup {
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
\score {
  \magnifyMusic 0.8 { $music }
  \layout {
indent = 0
\context {
  \Score
\omit StaffSymbol
\omit Clef
\omit TimeSignature
\omit Stem
  }
}
  }
}
   #})

\new PianoStaff \with {
\omit TimeSignature
\consists #Span_stem_engraver
  } <<
  \new Staff \with {
  \clef G
  \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 15))
}  <<
\new Voice \relative {
  \voiceOne
  \override Beam.positions = #'(10 . 10)
  \override NoteHead.stencil = ##f
  c'16 16 8 8 16 16 16 8 16
  \set subdivideBeams = ##t
  \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
  \repeat unfold 5 { c16 c c c }
}
\new Voice \relative {
  \voiceTwo
  \override TextScript.padding = #'()
  s16 s
  -\tweak extra-offset #'(-2 . -11)
  ^\xen { a''!4 }
  -\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . -11.5)
  ^\xen { b''4 }
  }
  >>
  \new Dynamics { s1-\tweak extra-offset #'(1.8 . -1.8) \p s }
  \new Staff \with { \clef F } <<
\new Voice \relative {
  \voiceOne
  \override Beam.stencil = ##f
  \override NoteHead.stencil = ##f
  \crossStaff {
e,16 16 8 8 16 16 16 8 16
\set subdivideBeams = ##t
\set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
\repeat unfold 5 { e16 e e e }
  }
}
\new Voice {
  \voiceTwo
  s16
  -\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1.5)
  _\xen {
c''4
-\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . -2)
_\markup\concat {
  \lower  #.2 \italic "8"
  \path #0.15 #'((lineto 7 0)(lineto 7 1))
}
  }
  -\tweak extra-offset #'(1.8 . 2)
  _\xen { gis'4 }
  -\tweak extra-offset #'(4 . 3.5)
  _\xen { fis4 }
}
\new Voice {
  \voiceThree
  s1 \bar "" s
}
  >>
>>

Cheers,
Pierre

2015-10-25 13:58 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> As each note head has its proper alignment, I don't see how this can be
> achieved without using markups.
> Long work though...
>
> Something like :
>
> \version "2.19.29"
> #(set-global-staff-size 15)
> \paper {
>   indent = 0
>   ragged-right = ##f
> }
>
> \new PianoStaff \with {
> \omit TimeSignature
> \consists #Span_stem_engraver
>   } <<
>   \new Staff \with {
>   \clef G
>   \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing =
> #'((basic-distance . 15))
> }  <<
> \new Voice \relative {
>   \voiceOne
>   \override Beam.positions = #'(10 . 10)
>   \override NoteHead.stencil = ##f
>   c'16 16 8 8 16 16 16 8 16
>   \set subdivideBeams = ##t
>   \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
>   \repeat unfold 5 { c16 c c c }
> }
> \new Voice \relative {
>   \voiceTwo
>   \override TextScript.padding = #'()
>   s16 s
>   -\tweak extra-offset #'(-2 . -11)
>   ^\markup {
> \with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
> \score {
>   \magnifyMusic 0.8 { a''!4 }
>   \layout {
> \context {
>   \Score
> \omit StaffSymbol
> \omit Clef
> \omit TimeSignature
> \omit Stem
>   }
> }
>   }
> }
>   -\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . -11.5)
>   ^\markup {
> \with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
> \score {
>   \magnifyMusic 0.8 { b''4 }
>   \layout {
> \context {
>   \Score
> \omit StaffSymbol
> \omit Clef
> \omit TimeSignature
> \omit Stem
>   }
> }
>   }
> }
>   }
>   >>
>   \new Dynamics { s1-\tweak extra-offset #'(1.8 . -1.8) \p s }
>   \new Staff \with { \clef F } <<
> \new Voice \relative {
>   \voiceOne
>   \override Beam.stencil = ##f
>   \override NoteHead.stencil = ##f
>   \crossStaff {
> e,16 16 8 8 16 16 16 8 16
> \set subdivideBeams = ##t
> \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
> \repeat unfold 5 { e16 e e e }
>   }
> }
> \new Voice {
>   \voiceTwo
>   s16
>   _\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1.5)
>   ^\markup {
> \with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
> \score {
>   \magnifyMusic 0.8 {
> c''4
> -\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . -2)
> _\markup\concat {
>   \lower  #.2 \italic "8"
>   \path #0.1 #'((lineto 7 0)(lineto 7 1))
> }
>   }
>   \layout {
> \context {
>