Re: User survey? (Graham Percival)

2007-11-07 Thread Graham Percival



Maurits Lamers wrote:

.  There was recently a proposal to create a mini online
tutorial for the lilypond application


Err, sorry, I should clarify that this online is the 1980s definition 
of online -- meaning as part of the program.  Think of the 
tutorials in many computer games.


I realize this was a very confusing usage of the term, and I have 
honestly no idea why I wrote it that badly.


I have written a small tutorial for first year music technology students 
(in Dutch, link: http://kmt.hku.nl/~maurits/doku.php?id=lilypond:start 
).


We already have a tutorial, so this is of limited use -- the problem is 
directing new users to *a* tutorial, not the specific tutorial.


I really can't recall any recent questions that were answered in our 
tutorial -- people either don't realize that lilypond has a GUI (hence 
my comment about integrated tutorial inside the lilypond app), or 
their questions are much more advanced.


Cheers,
- Graham


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User survey?

2007-11-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem

I was wondering: has there ever been a user survey for Lilypond users? What
made me think about this is the current work on the documentation, but I
suppose it might be interesting for other purposes too. 

- How many users are there?
- how many of the users are only/primarily musicians, and how many are
  programmers who also write music?
- How many use windows/mac/linux?
- How do they use the docs?
- Which parts of the docs are they most happy/dissatisfied with?
- How many have ever used scheme code in their scores (beyond the simplest
  almost standard LP syntax like ##t)?
- How many have written a scheme function themselves?  
- What kind of music do they write? which parts of LP are most used?
- and which parts are most in need of extensions/simplifications?

Things like this. I imagine it could be done as a running survey with a
link from the front page, or something like that. Has this been done
before? is there any interest in doing it now?

Eyolf


-- 
Darth Vader:
The Force is strong with this one.


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Re: User survey?

2007-11-06 Thread Graham Percival

Eyolf Østrem wrote:

I was wondering: has there ever been a user survey for Lilypond users? What
made me think about this is the current work on the documentation,


I can't see this being useful for the doc work.  We've already reduced 
the scope of GDP fourfold.  At the current level of participation,
we might not even meet the vastly reduced goals I set for the end of 
2007.  (1 section per week?  that seems optimistic to me, given that 
we've only really covered two sections so far)



I detest discussion potential new features if there's absolutely no hope 
of their being implemented -- either on the programming side, or on the 
doc side.  There was recently a proposal to create a mini online 
tutorial for the lilypond application -- something that would walk 
through users compiling and viewing their first score.  Sure, that would 
be useful... and would simplify the doc tutorial.  But we don't have the 
programming resources, so any further discussion is a waste of time.


I take a similar view on the docs.  It's not like we're sitting around 
waiting for something to do; there's a huge set of TODOs on the GDP site.


Cheers,
- Graham


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