Re: Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-21 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 20.02.2018 um 16:57 schrieb Malte Meyn:


it’s possible with beamed notes but not (yet) for rests and flagged 
notes because there are no rest/flag glyphs in the font for these note 
durations. But they could be added …


Update: I made a patch that adds these glyphs but that will take some 
time to get released. (It needs review, probably some changes, and then 
it might be contained in the 2.21.0 release.)


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Re: Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-20 Thread Simon Albrecht

On 20.02.2018 22:05, Thomas Morley wrote:

If my math is correct it prints a
109074813561941592946298424473378286244826416199623269243183278618972133184911929521626423452520198722395729179615702527310987082017718406361097976507755479907890629884219298953860982522804820515969685161359163819677188654260932456012129055390188630101790025253579991720001007960002653583680090529780588095235050163019547565391100531236456001484742603529355124584392891875276869627934408805561751569434994540667782514081490061610592025643850457801332649356583604724240738244281224513151775751916489922636574372243227736807502762788304520650179276170094569916849725787968385173704999690096112051565505011556127149149251534210574896662954703278632150573082843022166497032439613863525162640951616800542762343599630892169144618118740639531066540488573943483287742816740749537099351186875635997039011702182361674945862096985700626361208270671540815706657513728102702231092756491027675916052087830463241104936456875492096732298245918476342738379027244843801852697776494107271561158043469082745933999196141424274141059911742606055648376375631452761136265862838336862115799363802087853767554533678991569423443395566631507008721353547025567031200413072549583450835743965382893607708097855057891296790735278005493562156109079584517295411597292747987752773856000820411855893000448727761853813510493840581861598652211605960308356405941821189714037868726219481498727603653616298856174822413033485438785324024751419417183012281078209729303537372804574372095228703622776363945290869806258422355148507571039619387449629866808188769662815778153079393179093143648340761738581819563002994422790754955061288818308430079648693232179158765918035565216157115402992120276155607873107937477466841528362987708699450152031231862594203085693838944657061346236704234026821102958954951197087076546186622796294536451620756509351018906023773821539532776208676978589731966330308893304665169436185078350641568336944530051437491311298834367265238595404904273455928723949525227184617404367854754610474377019768025576605881038077270707717942221977090385438585844095492116099852538903974655703943973086090930596963360767529964938414598185705963754561497355827813623833288906309004288017321424808663962671333528009232758350873059614118723781422101460198615747386855096896089189180441339558524822867541113212638793675567650340362970031930023397828465318547238244232028015189689660418822976000815437610652254270163595650875433851147123214227266605403581781469090806576468950587661997186505665475715792896th
note.


LOL indeed! ;-D

Using
\paper {
  page-breaking = #ly:one-line-auto-height-breaking
}
gives
warning: compressing over-full page by 8033.4 staff-spaces
but output is fine.

Best, Simon


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Re: Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-20 Thread Thomas Morley
2018-02-20 16:57 GMT+01:00 Malte Meyn :
>
>
> Am 20.02.2018 um 12:04 schrieb Amir Teymuri:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> is a 128 the smallest possible rhythmic value one can write in Lilypond or
>> is there a way to write even shorter values (e.g. 256 or even smaller)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - -
>> ateymur...@gmail.com
>
>
> Hi Amir,
>
> it’s possible with beamed notes but not (yet) for rests and flagged notes
> because there are no rest/flag glyphs in the font for these note durations.
> But they could be added … See also the thread you started at the
> German-speaking user forum.
>
> Cheers,
> Malte



Hi all,

the limitation to 128th notes/rests is caused by the lack of glyphs
from the default notation-font.
If the stencil-procedure can't find the glyph it warns.

Though one can use a different procedure.

Pierre already linked to the lsr-snippet:
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=995

Also, we have built-in procedures which _draws_ straight flags for
contemporary music and tbh, I never saw a _single_ 256th note in older
music.
I don't know another method to print very short rests than Pierre's
lsr-snippet, but below an example using straight-flags.

If my math is correct it prints a
109074813561941592946298424473378286244826416199623269243183278618972133184911929521626423452520198722395729179615702527310987082017718406361097976507755479907890629884219298953860982522804820515969685161359163819677188654260932456012129055390188630101790025253579991720001007960002653583680090529780588095235050163019547565391100531236456001484742603529355124584392891875276869627934408805561751569434994540667782514081490061610592025643850457801332649356583604724240738244281224513151775751916489922636574372243227736807502762788304520650179276170094569916849725787968385173704999690096112051565505011556127149149251534210574896662954703278632150573082843022166497032439613863525162640951616800542762343599630892169144618118740639531066540488573943483287742816740749537099351186875635997039011702182361674945862096985700626361208270671540815706657513728102702231092756491027675916052087830463241104936456875492096732298245918476342738379027244843801852697776494107271561158043469082745933999196141424274141059911742606055648376375631452761136265862838336862115799363802087853767554533678991569423443395566631507008721353547025567031200413072549583450835743965382893607708097855057891296790735278005493562156109079584517295411597292747987752773856000820411855893000448727761853813510493840581861598652211605960308356405941821189714037868726219481498727603653616298856174822413033485438785324024751419417183012281078209729303537372804574372095228703622776363945290869806258422355148507571039619387449629866808188769662815778153079393179093143648340761738581819563002994422790754955061288818308430079648693232179158765918035565216157115402992120276155607873107937477466841528362987708699450152031231862594203085693838944657061346236704234026821102958954951197087076546186622796294536451620756509351018906023773821539532776208676978589731966330308893304665169436185078350641568336944530051437491311298834367265238595404904273455928723949525227184617404367854754610474377019768025576605881038077270707717942221977090385438585844095492116099852538903974655703943973086090930596963360767529964938414598185705963754561497355827813623833288906309004288017321424808663962671333528009232758350873059614118723781422101460198615747386855096896089189180441339558524822867541113212638793675567650340362970031930023397828465318547238244232028015189689660418822976000815437610652254270163595650875433851147123214227266605403581781469090806576468950587661997186505665475715792896th
note.

And yes, the paper-values/stem-length-values are meant serious LOL

#(set! paper-alist (cons '("ooops" . (cons (* 60 mm) (* 1500 cm) ))
paper-alist))
#(set-default-paper-size "ooops")

{
  \override Stem.length = 16380
  \override Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag
  \applyMusic
#(lambda (mus)
  (ly:music-set-property! mus 'duration (ly:make-duration (expt 2 13)))
  mus)
  c'
}

Use a _good_ pdf-viewer to see the result...

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-20 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 20.02.2018 um 12:04 schrieb Amir Teymuri:

Hello,

is a 128 the smallest possible rhythmic value one can write in Lilypond 
or is there a way to write even shorter values (e.g. 256 or even smaller)?


Thanks in advance,

- - - - - - - - - - -
ateymur...@gmail.com


Hi Amir,

it’s possible with beamed notes but not (yet) for rests and flagged 
notes because there are no rest/flag glyphs in the font for these note 
durations. But they could be added … See also the thread you started at 
the German-speaking user forum.


Cheers,
Malte

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Re: Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-20 Thread Simon Albrecht
> Hello,
> 
> is a 128 the smallest possible rhythmic value one can write in Lilypond or 
> is there a way to write even shorter values (e.g. 256 or even smaller)?

Why didn't you just try? ;-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_hundred_fifty-sixth_note#cite_ref-LilyPond_10-0

Best, Simon

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Re: Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-20 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Amir,

See: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=995

HTH, Cheers,
Pierre

2018-02-20 12:04 GMT+01:00 Amir Teymuri :

> Hello,
>
> is a 128 the smallest possible rhythmic value one can write in Lilypond or
> is there a way to write even shorter values (e.g. 256 or even smaller)?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> - - - - - - - - - - -
> ateymur...@gmail.com
>
> - - - - - - - - - - -
>
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Re: Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-20 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Amir,

>From the Notation Reference:

Durations as short as 128 notes can be entered but shorter values, while
possible, can only be entered as beamed notes.

Andrew


On 20 February 2018 at 22:04, Amir Teymuri  wrote:

>
> is a 128 the smallest possible rhythmic value one can write in Lilypond or
> is there a way to write even shorter values (e.g. 256 or even smaller)?
>
>
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Very small rhythmic values

2018-02-20 Thread Amir Teymuri

Hello,

is a 128 the smallest possible rhythmic value one can write in Lilypond or 
is there a way to write even shorter values (e.g. 256 or even smaller)?


Thanks in advance,

- - - - - - - - - - -
ateymur...@gmail.com

- - - - - - - - - - -

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