Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-12 Thread bart deruyter
my vote: second.

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2014/1/12 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org

 Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

  Carl Sorensen-3 wrote
  There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar
 chord
  shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
  prefer.
 
  Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or
 the
  second chord (open chord in first position)?
 
  why not barred on fret 7 - it's easy to play (at least easier than your
 1st
  example), you can strum all strings and in many cases it fits better.

 Ah, the Only E should be admitted to the barr or One chord, one
 world school particularly popular with electric guitar players...

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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-12 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 11.01.2014 20:06, schrieb Carl Sorensen:

There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
prefer.

Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
second chord (open chord in first position)?


The second.

Marc


Thanks,

Carl




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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-12 Thread Thomas Scharkowski

I vote for the second (open chord in first position).
Thomas

 Original-Nachricht 


There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
prefer.

Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
second chord (open chord in first position)?

Thanks,

Carl




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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-12 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 12.01.2014 00:09, schrieb Eluze:

Carl Sorensen-3 wrote

There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
prefer.

Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
second chord (open chord in first position)?


why not barred on fret 7 - it's easy to play (at least easier than your 1st
example), you can strum all strings and in many cases it fits better.


Ok, you can start a longish discussion about pros and cons of different
chord shapes, but in the cases where the second variant fits nicely, the
seveth fret form is just too far away from the rest of the chords.

Marc


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Fwd: Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-12 Thread Marc Hohl

This message should go to the list IMHO

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Betreff: Re: What should be the default B7 chord?
Datum: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 04:30:39 -0600
Von: Ed Faulk efa...@faswebdesign.com
An: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de

Open chord, first position.

Ed

On 1/12/2014 4:17 AM, Marc Hohl wrote:

Am 11.01.2014 20:06, schrieb Carl Sorensen:

There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar
chord
shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
prefer.

Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2)
or the
second chord (open chord in first position)?


The second.

Marc


Thanks,

Carl




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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
2014/1/11 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:
 There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
 shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
 prefer.

 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?

the second! :)
j

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What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
prefer.

Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
second chord (open chord in first position)?

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread Noeck
 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?

second

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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread pls

On 11.01.2014, at 20:06, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:

 There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
 shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
 prefer.
 
 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?
second chord (open chord in first position)!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Carl
 
 
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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread Johan Vromans
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes:

 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?

I have a slight preferrence for the second although I don't mind the
first position.

In either position: why is the lower fis excluded? It fits nicely in the
chord, unless you're the 'lowest note must be root' kind of player...

-- Johan

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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes:

 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes:

 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?

 I have a slight preferrence for the second although I don't mind the
 first position.

You know that this answer does not make sense?  The second chord _is_
the first position variant.

 In either position: why is the lower fis excluded? It fits nicely in the
 chord, unless you're the 'lowest note must be root' kind of player...

Uh, lowest note _must_ be root when strumming or it sounds awful.  For
the barre, I _would_ barr the fis in order to have the low dominant for
finger-picking alternate basses.

For the open chord, there is no finger left (assuming that we leave the
thumb alone) for fingering the low fis, so the question does not even
arise.

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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread pls

On 11.01.2014, at 21:15, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes:
 
 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes:
 
 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?
 
 I have a slight preferrence for the second although I don't mind the
 first position.
 
 You know that this answer does not make sense?  The second chord _is_
 the first position variant.
 
 In either position: why is the lower fis excluded? It fits nicely in the
 chord, unless you're the 'lowest note must be root' kind of player...
 
 Uh, lowest note _must_ be root when strumming or it sounds awful.  For
 the barre, I _would_ barr the fis in order to have the low dominant for
 finger-picking alternate basses.
 
 For the open chord, there is no finger left (assuming that we leave the
 thumb alone) for fingering the low fis, so the question does not even
 arise.
Well for the open chord it's quite common for alternate basses to jump back and 
fourth between fifth and sixth string with the second finger.  You can 
basically do the same with the first finger in barre chords.  I would not 
include the lower fis in a B7 fret diagram (by default) because strictly 
speaking it's not part of this chord.  It belongs to a B7/Fis chord.
 
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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread Tim McNamara

On Jan 11, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:

 There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
 shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
 prefer.
 
 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?

I prefer the second form that you demonstrated, simply because the first form 
doesn’t sound very good (at least to a jazz guitarist).  
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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread Johan Vromans
[Quoting David Kastrup, on January 11 2014, 21:15, in Re: What should be t]
 You know that this answer does not make sense?  The second chord _is_
 the first position variant.

You're right, although I assume you understand I meant the first
variant.

 Uh, lowest note _must_ be root when strumming or it sounds awful.
 For the barre, I _would_ barr the fis in order to have the low
 dominant for finger-picking alternate basses.

I mostly play finger-picking so I include the fis in the barre but
play the b with my thumb.

 For the open chord, there is no finger left (assuming that we leave
 the thumb alone) for fingering the low fis, so the question does not
 even arise.

I usually alternate the middle finger between the b and the low fis,
although I have no problems playing low fis and b with a 2-string
barre (middle finger).

But we digress...

-- Johan

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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread Eluze
Carl Sorensen-3 wrote
 There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
 shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
 prefer.
 
 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?

why not barred on fret 7 - it's easy to play (at least easier than your 1st
example), you can strum all strings and in many cases it fits better.

Eluze



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Re: What should be the default B7 chord?

2014-01-11 Thread David Kastrup
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 Carl Sorensen-3 wrote
 There has been a difference of opinion on why the default B7 guitar chord
 shape should be.  I'm making a poll to determine what the users would
 prefer.
 
 Would you like the first chord in the attachment (barred on fret 2) or the
 second chord (open chord in first position)?

 why not barred on fret 7 - it's easy to play (at least easier than your 1st
 example), you can strum all strings and in many cases it fits better.

Ah, the Only E should be admitted to the barr or One chord, one
world school particularly popular with electric guitar players...

-- 
David Kastrup

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