Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread David Kastrup 
"Christopher R. Maden"  writes:

> On 11/21/2017 09:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
>> "The repos" for what distribution?  2.18.0 was released in December
>> 2013.  What repos carry software that has been replaced 4 years ago?
>
> Distros released 4 years ago, like Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty, supported
> through April 2019)

Supported by _Ubuntu_.

> and its derivatives, including Linux Mint 17.x.

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS has been out for over a year.  If you don't want to
upgrade, this has consequences for the amount of support upstream will
be able to provide for your old software.

> Like Eby, I’m generally reluctant to switch away from distro-provided
> software packages.  It’s frustrating — I wonder if there’s any way we
> can put pressure on Ubuntu to upgrade within a distro.

They'll say "use 16.04".  I doubt that they will feel that backports to
14.04 are a useful investment for anything but severe security fixes.

That being said, our packagers install (und uninstall) reasonably
smoothly.  But with 14.04, you might conceitably be hitting library
problems.

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Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Christopher R. Maden 

On 11/21/2017 09:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
"The repos" for what distribution?  2.18.0 was released in December 
2013.  What repos carry software that has been replaced 4 years ago?


Distros released 4 years ago, like Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty, supported 
through April 2019) and its derivatives, including Linux Mint 17.x.


Like Eby, I’m generally reluctant to switch away from distro-provided 
software packages.  It’s frustrating — I wonder if there’s any way we 
can put pressure on Ubuntu to upgrade within a distro.


(I recently switched to Linux Mint 18, and now am using LilyPond 2.18, 
which makes me very happy.)


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http://crism.maden.org/ >
Emperor Norton had the right idea.

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Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread David Kastrup 
Eby Mani  writes:

> Many thanks Urs.
>
> 2.16.2 is what is available on the repos, thus sticking to.

"The repos" for what distribution?  2.18.0 was released in December
2013.  What repos carry software that has been replaced 4 years ago?

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Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Ben 

On 11/21/2017 9:26 AM, Eby Mani wrote:

Many thanks Urs.

2.16.2 is what is available on the repos, thus sticking to.

Eby

On Tue, 21/11/17, Urs Liska  wrote:

  >I'm on lilypond
  2.16.2 on ubuntu
  
  This is *really* outdated. 2.18 has been the

  stable release for years now, and you should switch at least
  to that version.
  
  Urs




Eby,

Please consider the advantages to upgrading to 2.18 - it's quite easy to 
install on Linux (regardless of what's in the repo).


sh lilypond-2.18.2 etc.

You'll find as you continue to engrave music in LilyPond that perhaps a 
lot of code you wish to use won't work properly (or at all) on older 
versions.

Lots of cool stuff has been added and enhanced significantly in 2.18 +

Good luck! :)


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Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Eby Mani 
Hi Ben, is there a similar snippet available for ly 2.16. ?. Thanks.

On Tue, 21/11/17, Ben <soundsfromso...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Date: Tuesday, 21 November, 2017, 11:36 AM
 
 
 On 11/21/2017 1:14 AM, Eby Mani wrote:
 
 
   Hi All, I couldn't find how achieve the
 following, i tried fiddling with \set Timing and
 \overrideTimeSignatureSettings related commands for
 beaming.
 
 1, Automatically replace tuplet bracket with a slur.
 
 
 
 
 Eby,
 
 
 
 Does this help you? This code makes the bracket in
 tuplets into a
 curved slur.
 
 
 
 http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Tuplets-curved-brackets-td207326.html
 
 
 
 (image)
 
 http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/207328/0/curved.png
 
 
 
 
 
  tupletBracketToSlur
   = {
 
    % Use slur-stencil
 
    \override TupletBracket.stencil
   = #ly:slur::print
 
    %% Use 'thickness from Slur
 
    \override TupletBracket.thickness
   = #1.2
 
    %% 'control-points need to be
 set
 
    \override TupletBracket.control-points
   =
 
      #(lambda (grob)
 
    (let* ((x-pos (ly:grob-property grob
 'X-positions))
 
   (pos (ly:grob-property
 grob 'positions))
 
   (x-ln (interval-length
 x-pos))
 
   (dir (ly:grob-property
 grob 'direction))
 
   ;; read out the height
 of the TupletBracket, may
 be
 
   ;; negative!
 
   (height (- (cdr pos)
 (car pos)))
 
   ;; height-corr is
 introduced because sometimes
   the shape
 
   ;; of the slur needs to
 be adjusted.
 
   ;; It is used in the
 2nd/3rd control-point.
 
   ;; The value of 0.3 is
 found by trial and error
 
   (height-corr (* 0.3 dir
 height))
 
   (edge-height
 (ly:grob-property grob 'edge-height
 
 
   
 '(0.7 . 0.7)))
 
   (pad 1.0))
 
      (list
 
    ;; first cp
 
    (cons
 
      (+ (car x-pos)
 0.5)
 
      (- (+ (* dir pad) (+ (car
 pos) (* -1 dir
 
   (car
 edge-height
 
    (if (= dir
 -1)
 
    (if (>
 height 3)
 
      (/ dir
 2.0)
 
     
 0.0)
 
    (if (<
 height -3)
 
      (/ dir
 2.0)
 
     
 0.0
 
    ;; second cp
 
    (cons
 
      (+ (car x-pos) (* x-ln
 1/4))
 
      (+ (* dir pad) (+ (car
 pos) (* dir (+ 0.5
   height-corr)
 
    ;; third cp
 
    (cons
 
      (+ (car x-pos) (* x-ln
 3/4))
 
      (+ (* dir pad) (+ (cdr
 pos) (* dir (- 0.5
   height-corr)
 
    ;; fourth cplilypond-u...@gnu.org,
 
    (cons
 
      (- (cdr x-pos)
 0.5)
 
      (+ (* dir pad) (+ (cdr
 pos) (* -1 dir (cdr
   edge-height)
 
      )))
 
    \override TupletBracket.staff-padding
   = #'()
 
    #(define (invert-direction x) (if (eq?
 UP
 
  (ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-direction
   x)) DOWN UP))
 
  \override TupletBracket.direction
   = #invert-direction
 
  }
 
  
 
  
 
  \layout { \tupletBracketToSlur
   }
 
  
 
  { a a \tuplet
   3/2 { a8 a a }  a4 } 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Eby Mani 
Many thanks Urs.

2.16.2 is what is available on the repos, thus sticking to.

Eby

On Tue, 21/11/17, Urs Liska <li...@ursliska.de> wrote:

 Subject: Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?
 To: "Eby Mani" <eby...@yahoo.com>, lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Date: Tuesday, 21 November, 2017, 7:55 AM
 
 
 
 Am 21. November 2017 07:14:01 MEZ schrieb Eby
 Mani <eby...@yahoo.com>:
 >Hi All, I couldn't find how achieve the
 following, i tried fiddling
 >with \set
 Timing and \overrideTimeSignatureSettings related
 commands
 >for beaming.
 >
 >1, Automatically
 replace tuplet bracket with a slur.
 >
 >2, Automatically break beaming of tuplets
 of value 16. If no tuplet,
 >then the
 beaming should default.
 >e.g. by default lilypond-user@gnu.org,
 lilypond beams tuplets {c16 d e} and f8 together. What
 >i want is the f8 should not be beamed
 together with tuplet. And if
 >there is {
 c16 d32 e f16 } in a tuplet, it should be beamed
 together.
 >
 >Is point
 number 2 possible without manual beam breaks ?.
 >
 
 Not yet.
 We have just started a discussion about how tuplets should
 affect beaming and the subdivision of secondary beams.
 Hopefully this will be fixed in the foreseeable
 future.
 Which leads to ...
  lilypond-user@gnu.org,
 >
 >I'm on lilypond
 2.16.2 on ubuntu 
 
 This is *really* outdated. 2.18 has been the
 stable release for years now, and you should switch at least
 to that version.
 
 Urs
 
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Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Ben 

On 11/21/2017 1:14 AM, Eby Mani wrote:

Hi All, I couldn't find how achieve the following, i tried fiddling with \set 
Timing and \overrideTimeSignatureSettings related commands for beaming.

1, Automatically replace tuplet bracket with a slur.


https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user


Eby,

Does this help you? This code makes the bracket in tuplets into a curved 
slur.


http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Tuplets-curved-brackets-td207326.html

(image)
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/207328/0/curved.png


tupletBracketToSlur = {
  % Use slur-stencil
  \override TupletBracket.stencil = #ly:slur::print
  %% Use 'thickness from Slur
  \override TupletBracket.thickness = #1.2
  %% 'control-points need to be set
  \override TupletBracket.control-points =
    #(lambda (grob)
  (let* ((x-pos (ly:grob-property grob 'X-positions))
 (pos (ly:grob-property grob 'positions))
 (x-ln (interval-length x-pos))
 (dir (ly:grob-property grob 'direction))
 ;; read out the height of the TupletBracket, may be
 ;; negative!
 (height (- (cdr pos) (car pos)))
 ;; height-corr is introduced because sometimes the shape
 ;; of the slur needs to be adjusted.
 ;; It is used in the 2nd/3rd control-point.
 ;; The value of 0.3 is found by trial and error
 (height-corr (* 0.3 dir height))
 (edge-height (ly:grob-property grob 'edge-height
   '(0.7 . 0.7)))
 (pad 1.0))
    (list
  ;; first cp
  (cons
    (+ (car x-pos) 0.5)
    (- (+ (* dir pad) (+ (car pos) (* -1 dir
 (car edge-height
  (if (= dir -1)
  (if (> height 3)
    (/ dir 2.0)
    0.0)
  (if (< height -3)
    (/ dir 2.0)
    0.0
  ;; second cp
  (cons
    (+ (car x-pos) (* x-ln 1/4))
    (+ (* dir pad) (+ (car pos) (* dir (+ 0.5 height-corr)
  ;; third cp
  (cons
    (+ (car x-pos) (* x-ln 3/4))
    (+ (* dir pad) (+ (cdr pos) (* dir (- 0.5 height-corr)
  ;; fourth cp
  (cons
    (- (cdr x-pos) 0.5)
    (+ (* dir pad) (+ (cdr pos) (* -1 dir (cdr edge-height)
    )))
  \override TupletBracket.staff-padding = #'()
  #(define (invert-direction x) (if (eq? UP
(ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-direction x)) DOWN UP))
\override TupletBracket.direction = #invert-direction
}


\layout { \tupletBracketToSlur }

{ a a \tuplet 3/2 { a8 a a }  a4 }


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Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-20 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 21. November 2017 07:14:01 MEZ schrieb Eby Mani :
>Hi All, I couldn't find how achieve the following, i tried fiddling
>with \set Timing and \overrideTimeSignatureSettings related commands
>for beaming.
>
>1, Automatically replace tuplet bracket with a slur.
>
>2, Automatically break beaming of tuplets of value 16. If no tuplet,
>then the beaming should default.
>e.g. by default lilypond beams tuplets {c16 d e} and f8 together. What
>i want is the f8 should not be beamed together with tuplet. And if
>there is { c16 d32 e f16 } in a tuplet, it should be beamed together.
>
>Is point number 2 possible without manual beam breaks ?.
>

Not yet. We have just started a discussion about how tuplets should affect 
beaming and the subdivision of secondary beams.
Hopefully this will be fixed in the foreseeable future.
Which leads to ...

>
>I'm on lilypond 2.16.2 on ubuntu 

This is *really* outdated. 2.18 has been the stable release for years now, and 
you should switch at least to that version.

Urs

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