Re:RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-03 Thread Sam Frybyte
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:08:09 +0100
From: "Phil Holmes" 
To: "Sam Frybyte" ,  "lilypond user group"
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Subject: Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn
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From: "Sam Frybyte" 
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:47 AM
Subject: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn


> Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
> From: Brian Barker 
> To: lilypond user group 
> Cc: Sam Frybyte 
> Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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> At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:
>>If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
>>acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
>>in version. 2.18.2
>>with \cadenzaOn
>>\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
>> \stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
>> \times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4
>>
>>I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be
>>beamed.
>
>>>Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
>>>bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".
>
>>>If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
>>>readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
>>>but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
>>>I trust this helps.
>>>Brian Barker
>
> Mr. Barker
> It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
> happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
> you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
> marks nothing happens.
> Thank you

It does work:

{ \cadenzaOn \acciaccatura c'8 a8[
\acciaccatura b8 ges8]
\times 2/3 {f16[ des des]} des4
}


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Phil Holmes

Phil- (and Brian) the quotes that were included in the first message
confused me.  And mentioning the triplet where it did work did too.
Without the quotes I was able to understand where the brackets should
go (I was putting them in the wrong places and continued to have to
experiment to get it 'right' individually/per situation.) Thank you
both for your help

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RE: beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Sam,

Perhaps
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/beams

Mark

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Subject: beaming with cadenzaOn

If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with acciaccaturas
between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.
Please direct me to the place in manual where this is found.
Thank you. Or if it's not in the manual and there's a solution that you know
I look forward to knowing this.
Jay

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Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Brian Barker

At 03:47 01/06/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:

Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker 
Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a left 
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".


It doesn't work.


It does for me - and clearly also for Mr Holmes.


I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing happens ...


For what it's worth, it works for me in 2.18.2.


Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks?


No.


Otherwise without the marks nothing happens.


You must be doing something different; I cannot guess what this may 
be. Are you sure you are putting both the brackets exactly where suggested?


Brian Barker 



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Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Phil Holmes
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From: "Sam Frybyte" 
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:47 AM
Subject: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn



Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker 
To: lilypond user group 
Cc: Sam Frybyte 
Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:

If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be 
beamed.



Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".



If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker


Mr. Barker
It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
marks nothing happens.
Thank you


It does work:

{ \cadenzaOn \acciaccatura c'8 a8[
\acciaccatura b8 ges8]
\times 2/3 {f16[ des des]} des4
}


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RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-06-01 Thread Sam Frybyte
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker 
To: lilypond user group 
Cc: Sam Frybyte 
Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:
>If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
>acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
>in version. 2.18.2
>with \cadenzaOn
>\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
> \stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
> \times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4
>
>I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.

>>Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
>>bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".

>>If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
>>readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
>>but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
>>I trust this helps.
>>Brian Barker

Mr. Barker
It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
marks nothing happens.
Thank you

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Re: beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-05-31 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:
If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with 
acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.

in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.


Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a left 
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".


If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more 
readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose anything 
but separately follow the notes to which they apply.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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beaming with cadenzaOn

2017-05-31 Thread Sam Frybyte
If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.
Please direct me to the place in manual where this is found.
Thank you. Or if it's not in the manual and there's a solution that you know
I look forward to knowing this.
Jay

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