decrescendo and unspecified starting volume [WAS: dynamic in midi]
Il 28/08/2012 17:03, fabio gabbianelli ha scritto:
i have this problem
(De)crescendo with unspecified starting volume in MIDI.
r1 s8 r1 s8 r1 s8 r1 s8 g4.
\_\markup {\line
i think it's refer to \ how i can specified the starting volume in midi?
i try to find in the documentation but i don't.!
Ok, I can reproduce the error (see attached minimal example).
In the doc it's explained only how to set minimum and maximum Midi volume:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/controlling-midi-dynamics
I have no clue about how to set the starting volume of a decrescendo.
\version 2.16.0
music = \relative c' {
c2\ c\!
}
\score {
\new Staff \music
\layout{}
\midi{
%{\context {
\Score
midiMinimumVolume = #0.2
midiMaximumVolume = #0.5
%}
}
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Re: decrescendo and unspecified starting volume [WAS: dynamic in midi]
Am 28.08.2012 18:47, schrieb Federico Bruni:
Il 28/08/2012 17:03, fabio gabbianelli ha scritto:
i have this problem
(De)crescendo with unspecified starting volume in MIDI.
r1 s8 r1 s8 r1 s8 r1 s8 g4.
\_\markup {\line
i think it's refer to \ how i can specified the starting volume
in midi? i try to find in the documentation but i don't.!
Ok, I can reproduce the error (see attached minimal example).
In the doc it's explained only how to set minimum and maximum Midi
volume:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/controlling-midi-dynamics
I have no clue about how to set the starting volume of a decrescendo.
In this respact, Lilypond is as clever as any musician - if there is no
dynamic sign, from which loudness should one start the decrescendo?
As Phil pointed out already, inserting a \p or \mf or any other dynamic sign
should do the trick:
c\mf c\ c c c\!
Regards,
Marc
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Re: decrescendo and unspecified starting volume [WAS: dynamic in midi]
Il 28/08/2012 19:42, Marc Hohl ha scritto:
In this respact, Lilypond is as clever as any musician - if there is no
dynamic sign, from which loudness should one start the decrescendo?
ok
As Phil pointed out already, inserting a \p or \mf or any other dynamic
sign
should do the trick:
c\mf c\ c c c\!
I can't make it work using my previous minimal example.
Also, I can't compile a snippet in NR 1.3.1 (attached)
--
Federico
\version 2.16.0
\paper {
indent = 0\mm
line-width = 160\mm
% offset the left padding, also add 1mm as lilypond creates cropped
% images with a little space on the right
line-width = #(- line-width (* mm 3.00) (* mm 1))
line-width = 160\mm - 2.0 * 10.16\mm
% offset the left padding, also add 1mm as lilypond creates cropped
% images with a little space on the right
line-width = #(- line-width (* mm 3.00) (* mm 1))
}
\layout {
}
\relative c''
{
%
% ly snippet contents follows:
%
c2\ c\!
d2\ d\f
e2\ e\
f2\ f\!
e2\ e\mp
d2\ d\
c1\!
%
% end ly snippet
%
}
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Re: decrescendo and unspecified starting volume [WAS: dynamic in midi]
Il 28/08/2012 20:06, Federico Bruni ha scritto: I can't make it work using my previous minimal example. Also, I can't compile a snippet in NR 1.3.1 (attached) nevermind, it's a bug in recent master: GNU LilyPond 2.16.0 /home/fede/lilypond-git/out/share/lilypond/current/scm/define-grobs.scm:28:3: In expression (quasiquote (# # # ...)): /home/fede/lilypond-git/out/share/lilypond/current/scm/define-grobs.scm:28:3: Unbound variable: ly:grob::vertical-skylines-from-element-stencils Maybe Mike is interested in it... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: decrescendo and unspecified starting volume [WAS: dynamic in midi]
Il 28/08/2012 20:09, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Il 28/08/2012 20:06, Federico Bruni ha scritto: I can't make it work using my previous minimal example. Also, I can't compile a snippet in NR 1.3.1 (attached) nevermind, it's a bug in recent master: GNU LilyPond 2.16.0 /home/fede/lilypond-git/out/share/lilypond/current/scm/define-grobs.scm:28:3: In expression (quasiquote (# # # ...)): /home/fede/lilypond-git/out/share/lilypond/current/scm/define-grobs.scm:28:3: Unbound variable: ly:grob::vertical-skylines-from-element-stencils Maybe Mike is interested in it... Ooops, sorry again: no bug, just me making a mess with versions and builds. It compiles ok in 2.17.1 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: decrescendo and unspecified starting volume [WAS: dynamic in midi]
Am 28.08.2012 20:23, schrieb Federico Bruni: Il 28/08/2012 20:09, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Il 28/08/2012 20:06, Federico Bruni ha scritto: I can't make it work using my previous minimal example. Also, I can't compile a snippet in NR 1.3.1 (attached) nevermind, it's a bug in recent master: GNU LilyPond 2.16.0 /home/fede/lilypond-git/out/share/lilypond/current/scm/define-grobs.scm:28:3: In expression (quasiquote (# # # ...)): /home/fede/lilypond-git/out/share/lilypond/current/scm/define-grobs.scm:28:3: Unbound variable: ly:grob::vertical-skylines-from-element-stencils Maybe Mike is interested in it... Ooops, sorry again: no bug, just me making a mess with versions and builds. It compiles ok in 2.17.1 Ah, ok, I was about to writing that I can compile the snippet without problems on my machine and 2.17.1. Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: decrescendo and unspecified starting volume [WAS: dynamic in midi]
James Harkins jamshark70 at gmail.com writes: it's impossible to calculate without both the starting and ending dynamic. Or has the logic been improved so that ending a decrescendo with \! now guesses an ending dynamic that is somewhat softer by some invisibly determined amount? Heikki posted some improvements here http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-07/msg00441.html which were included in version 2.16 So LilyPond does guess sometimes. His patch gives warnings when he thought it might be surprising LilyPond made a guess, but maybe the confusion caused by the warning is more trouble than the help. Fabio, LilyPond starts your decrescendo in the middle of the dynamic range. The warning is only to tell you that LilyPond made a guess about the starting dynamic. If you are happy with the results, you need do nothing about the warning. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
