Re: emailed lilypond pdf's printout missing note bodies on reciepent's computer

2008-12-26 Thread John Mislan
Ralph Palmer palmer.r.violin at gmail.com writes:

 I've had some peculiar things happen, even using Adobe Acrobat to make the
PDFs and using Adobe Reader 9 to view them. Specifically, when I've uploaded
files generated at 1200 dpi to a Yahoo website, and then downloaded them to
another computer (both computers running Windows XP), I've gotten a box around
each staff. This was using ABC format to create the files, and then using Ghost
to view them and sending them to an Acrobat printer. This didn't seem to happen
always, and I don't think it happened at all if I set the printer to 720 dpi. I
don't see how the dpi could affect the noteheads, but I'd say there are clearly
possibilities out there for conflicts between generators and viewers.Peace,Ralph
 On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM, John Mislan jwmislan at gmail.com wrote:

 Guess I'll have to tell others to use Adobe - Acrobat or equivalent reader
 for PDF's next Time.
 Well that solves it then.
 Thanks again for your prompt response, and help on this .
  - Seasons Grettings to All -
 JWM
 
 - Ralph PalmerMontague City, MAUSApalmer.r.violin at gmail.com

 Hello Ralph 
 
I didn't tell my output to do any specific resolution - I just ran - the
'lilypond' command on them, and used the resulting PDF to send out to the
windows vista, and xp computer users. All the note heads had small boxes around
them. I wonder if their printer was set to too high of a resolution ??
I can't test any of this at present I have only, an old epson available to me
with up to 720 - but no 1200 dpi res.

I'm trying to get to some foolproof way to insure that my lilypond music pdf's
will universally print correctly. Telling recipients they should use Adobe
Acrobat and (not winword) for pdf's, and 720 dpi res. is a reasonable start I
suppose. There seems to be evidence of conflicts between generators and viewers
and maybe some other quirks for this behavior. I have seen from time to time,
similar complaints about the notehead boxes.
 Maybe some others have had experience with it - found some ways to avoid it or
other relevant insight.

JWM



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Re: emailed lilypond pdf's printout missing note bodies on reciepent's computer

2008-12-26 Thread fiëé visuëlle

Am 2008-12-26 um 22:40 schrieb John Mislan:
I didn't tell my output to do any specific resolution - I just ran -  
the
'lilypond' command on them, and used the resulting PDF to send out  
to the
windows vista, and xp computer users. All the note heads had small  
boxes around

them. I wonder if their printer was set to too high of a resolution ??
I can't test any of this at present I have only, an old epson  
available to me

with up to 720 - but no 1200 dpi res.

I'm trying to get to some foolproof way to insure that my lilypond  
music pdf's
will universally print correctly. Telling recipients they should use  
Adobe
Acrobat and (not winword) for pdf's, and 720 dpi res. is a  
reasonable start I
suppose. There seems to be evidence of conflicts between generators  
and viewers
and maybe some other quirks for this behavior. I have seen from time  
to time,

similar complaints about the notehead boxes.
Maybe some others have had experience with it - found some ways to  
avoid it or

other relevant insight.



I don't think it's a matter of resolution, but some GDL printers can't  
handle the output from Adobe Reader. Mostly checking print as  
image (or how it is called) in the printing dialog helps.


But I guess the boxes 'round the noteheads are from the links (point  
and click) - usable for debugging, but useless for readers.

Just switch them off:

#(ly:set-option (quote no-point-and-click))

HTH


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Re: emailed lilypond pdf's printout missing note bodies on reciepent's computer

2008-12-25 Thread Ralph Palmer
I've had some peculiar things happen, even using Adobe Acrobat to make the
PDFs and using Adobe Reader 9 to view them. Specifically, when I've uploaded
files generated at 1200 dpi to a Yahoo website, and then downloaded them to
another computer (both computers running Windows XP), I've gotten a box
around each staff. This was using ABC format to create the files, and then
using Ghost to view them and sending them to an Acrobat printer. This didn't
seem to happen always, and I don't think it happened at all if I set the
printer to 720 dpi. I don't see how the dpi could affect the noteheads, but
I'd say there are clearly possibilities out there for conflicts between
generators and viewers.

Peace,

Ralph

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM, John Mislan jwmis...@gmail.com wrote:


  LilyPond embeds all needed fonts in its PDFs, so there's no need to
  install the fonts anywhere.
 
  But I had complaints about wrong PDFs myself, I could never resolve
  what the error caused.
 
  Maybe
  - some versions of LilyPond had bugs so that not all fonts were
  embedded (definitely not V.2.10.33)
  - some versions of some PDF viewers can't handle the Feta font
 
  Greetlings from Lake Constance
  ---
  fiëé visuëlle
  Henning Hraban Ramm
  http://www.fiee.net
  http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
  https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
 

 Ahh Haa
  Thank you Henning for the insight - I was not sure that lilypond embedded
 the
 needed fonts to the PDF's.

 Now I can make a better conclusion of what is most likely to have happened
 -
 The two separate recipients I sent PDF's to, most likely had not installed
 Adobe
 Acrobat readers.
 Both parties had either Win-Vista or XP - Probably had MS Office apps to
 (wrongly), open the PDF's .

 Guess I'll have to tell others to use Adobe - Acrobat or equivalent reader
 for PDF's next Time.

 Well that solves it then.

 Thanks again for your prompt response, and help on this .

  - Seasons Grettings to All -

 JWM



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emailed lilypond pdf's printout missing note bodies on reciepent's computer

2008-12-24 Thread John Mislan
Hello 

 I have sent, via email, a lilypond pdf to be printed out so the receiver may
be able to play the piece - unfortunately, they're printout was not legible.
 
All the note bodies were printed as small squares, but it seems all else -
lines, bars, ties, flags, etc were intact.

I'm guessing the receipents computer did not have the feta, or a suitable font 
installed.

It would be very useful if we could somehow be guaranteed that our finished pdf
music could be universally printed correctly regardless of operating system, or
weather lilypond components were installed.

The only thing I could think of for these folks that have no idea what music
score software is about, was to have them install the feta font. This is not
quite intuitive for everyone, and seems a clumsy un-elegant solution.

Please help with any thoughts on this, and as well as post to the list, send me
email. I am not presently subscribed. 
I'll Probably subscribe in future as time permits.

Thanks for any help on this.

GNU LilyPond 2.10.33
JWM  



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Re: emailed lilypond pdf's printout missing note bodies on reciepent's computer

2008-12-24 Thread fiëé visuëlle

Am 2008-12-24 um 20:01 schrieb John Mislan:

I have sent, via email, a lilypond pdf to be printed out so the  
receiver may
be able to play the piece - unfortunately, they're printout was not  
legible.


All the note bodies were printed as small squares, but it seems all  
else -

lines, bars, ties, flags, etc were intact.

I'm guessing the receipents computer did not have the feta, or a  
suitable font

installed.



LilyPond embeds all needed fonts in its PDFs, so there's no need to  
install the fonts anywhere.


But I had complaints about wrong PDFs myself, I could never resolve  
what the error caused.


Maybe
- some versions of LilyPond had bugs so that not all fonts were  
embedded (definitely not V.2.10.33)

- some versions of some PDF viewers can't handle the Feta font


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---
fiëé visuëlle
Henning Hraban Ramm
http://www.fiee.net
http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)




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Re: emailed lilypond pdf's printout missing note bodies on reciepent's computer

2008-12-24 Thread John Mislan

 LilyPond embeds all needed fonts in its PDFs, so there's no need to  
 install the fonts anywhere.
 
 But I had complaints about wrong PDFs myself, I could never resolve  
 what the error caused.
 
 Maybe
 - some versions of LilyPond had bugs so that not all fonts were  
 embedded (definitely not V.2.10.33)
 - some versions of some PDF viewers can't handle the Feta font
 
 Greetlings from Lake Constance
 ---
 fiëé visuëlle
 Henning Hraban Ramm
 http://www.fiee.net
 http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
 https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
 

Ahh Haa 
 Thank you Henning for the insight - I was not sure that lilypond embedded the
needed fonts to the PDF's.

Now I can make a better conclusion of what is most likely to have happened - 
The two separate recipients I sent PDF's to, most likely had not installed Adobe
Acrobat readers.
Both parties had either Win-Vista or XP - Probably had MS Office apps to
(wrongly), open the PDF's .

Guess I'll have to tell others to use Adobe - Acrobat or equivalent reader 
for PDF's next Time.

Well that solves it then.

Thanks again for your prompt response, and help on this .
 
 - Seasons Grettings to All -  

JWM



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