Re: openLilyLib and the 'parser' update (was: garbled output, error)

2015-07-10 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Urs,
thanks for the fix. Files compile fine now. However, now I get these
warnings:

Parsing...
openLilyLib: library infrastructure successfully loaded.
/[$HOME]/[$Docs]/openlilylib.ily:4:1: warning: openLilyLib: Library main
file /[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/scholarly/__main__.ily not found

\useLibrary Scholarly
/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/scholarly/annotate/__main__.ily:50:1:
warning: openLilyLib: Library main file
/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/utility/__main__.ily not found

\useLibrary utility
/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/scholarly/annotate/__main__.ily:51:1:
warning: openLilyLib: Module already loaded. Skipping
utility.rhythmic-location

\useModule utility.rhythmic-location
Interpreting music...


so … some directories still need cleaning up a bit, yes?


Cheers,


A

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

 For all users of openLilyLib,

 I have hopefully fixed this issue.
 At least as far as the new openLilyLib infrastructure (i.e. the
 \include openlilylib
 approach) is concerned and is covered by our automated test suite (thank
 you Matteo, this proves to be a really valuable resource).

 That means:
 If you use functionality from inside the new openLilyLib you should be
 able to compile it with LilyPond less-than, equal or greater-than
 2.19.22 again.

 I can't tell about the stuff that is in the old snippets' directories.
 Probably there will be more to iron out in the future, latest if we
 start migrating the contents to the new structure. But as it mainly
 affects ly:parser-lookup and ly:parser-define! I don't expect too many
 issues to come up.

 But for anybody: If you encounter errors indicating wrong numbers of
 arguments and pointing inside openLilyLib please open issues or ask on
 lilypond-user.

 Best
 Urs


 Am 29.06.2015 um 22:23 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
  Bug report added:
 
  https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues/125
 
  Cheers,
 
  A
 
  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
  Am 27.06.2015 um 11:22 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
   Hi Urs,
  
   My desktop is a gentoo system which builds directly from the git
   repository (gentoo has something like a live package, with a
 version
   number - at the end, that pulls from the live branch). On my
 sytem,
   that returns a lily version of 2.19.22.
 
  Oh, interesting.
 
   My laptop, however, is an ubuntu
   system (never managed to get gentoo working on it, alas!), for
 which I
   have 2.19.21 installed from the .sh file available on the website.
  
   So, it's probably the case that whatever the issue is will come up
 again
   when I get home.
 
  Surely.
 
   If it's any help, a lot of my system fonts now appear
   much sharper (say, in the file manager, or Firefox), which I
 suspect has
   to do with a recent update to one of the base packages. I'll let
 you
   know when I get home.
  
   Thanks for the help.
  
 
  Could you please add an issue to
  https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues
 
  Best
  Urs
 
   A
  
   On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
   mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
  
  
  
   Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer
 appears. I have
other issues -- namely that my production box is running
 lilypond
2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but
 those are minor.
  
   2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built
 LilyPond?
  
   
Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this
 simply a
problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back
 home?
  
   It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with
 something 
   2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22
 line?
  
   If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem
 at home
   again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced
 there.
  
   I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for
 other
   parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch
 so the
   code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.
  
   I'm approaching the state to be able to work properly again.
   Unfortunately I have to pick up a presentation for upcoming
 Wednesday.
   Anyone in or near Karlsruhe BTW?
  
   Urs
  
   
Cheers,
   
A
   
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska 
 

openLilyLib and the 'parser' update (was: garbled output, error)

2015-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
For all users of openLilyLib,

I have hopefully fixed this issue.
At least as far as the new openLilyLib infrastructure (i.e. the
\include openlilylib
approach) is concerned and is covered by our automated test suite (thank
you Matteo, this proves to be a really valuable resource).

That means:
If you use functionality from inside the new openLilyLib you should be
able to compile it with LilyPond less-than, equal or greater-than
2.19.22 again.

I can't tell about the stuff that is in the old snippets' directories.
Probably there will be more to iron out in the future, latest if we
start migrating the contents to the new structure. But as it mainly
affects ly:parser-lookup and ly:parser-define! I don't expect too many
issues to come up.

But for anybody: If you encounter errors indicating wrong numbers of
arguments and pointing inside openLilyLib please open issues or ask on
lilypond-user.

Best
Urs


Am 29.06.2015 um 22:23 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Bug report added:
 
 https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues/125
 
 Cheers,
 
 A
 
 On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:22 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
  Hi Urs,
 
  My desktop is a gentoo system which builds directly from the git
  repository (gentoo has something like a live package, with a version
  number - at the end, that pulls from the live branch). On my sytem,
  that returns a lily version of 2.19.22.
 
 Oh, interesting.
 
  My laptop, however, is an ubuntu
  system (never managed to get gentoo working on it, alas!), for which I
  have 2.19.21 installed from the .sh file available on the website.
 
  So, it's probably the case that whatever the issue is will come up again
  when I get home.
 
 Surely.
 
  If it's any help, a lot of my system fonts now appear
  much sharper (say, in the file manager, or Firefox), which I suspect has
  to do with a recent update to one of the base packages. I'll let you
  know when I get home.
 
  Thanks for the help.
 
 
 Could you please add an issue to
 https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues
 
 Best
 Urs
 
  A
 
  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org 
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
  Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
   Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
   openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I 
 have
   other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
   2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those 
 are minor.
 
  2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built 
 LilyPond?
 
  
   Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply 
 a
   problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?
 
  It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
  2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?
 
  If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at 
 home
  again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.
 
  I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
  parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
  code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.
 
  I'm approaching the state to be able to work properly again.
  Unfortunately I have to pick up a presentation for upcoming 
 Wednesday.
  Anyone in or near Karlsruhe BTW?
 
  Urs
 
  
   Cheers,
  
   A
  
   On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org 
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
   mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
  
  
  
   Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org 
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org writes:
   
Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me...
I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't 
 have a
working LilyPond at hand.
   
I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be 
 adapted to a
recent LilyPond improvement.
   
Well, 

Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-29 Thread Urs Liska


Am 29.06.2015 um 22:23 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Bug report added:
 
 https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues/125
 
 Cheers,
 
 A
 

Thanks, I was already on my way shifting that issue out of focus ;-)

Urs

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-29 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Bug report added:

https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues/125

Cheers,

A

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:



 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:22 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
  Hi Urs,
 
  My desktop is a gentoo system which builds directly from the git
  repository (gentoo has something like a live package, with a version
  number - at the end, that pulls from the live branch). On my sytem,
  that returns a lily version of 2.19.22.

 Oh, interesting.

  My laptop, however, is an ubuntu
  system (never managed to get gentoo working on it, alas!), for which I
  have 2.19.21 installed from the .sh file available on the website.
 
  So, it's probably the case that whatever the issue is will come up again
  when I get home.

 Surely.

  If it's any help, a lot of my system fonts now appear
  much sharper (say, in the file manager, or Firefox), which I suspect has
  to do with a recent update to one of the base packages. I'll let you
  know when I get home.
 
  Thanks for the help.
 

 Could you please add an issue to
 https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues

 Best
 Urs

  A
 
  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
  Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
   Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
   openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I
 have
   other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
   2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those
 are minor.
 
  2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built
 LilyPond?
 
  
   Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
   problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?
 
  It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
  2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?
 
  If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at
 home
  again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.
 
  I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
  parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
  code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.
 
  I'm approaching the state to be able to work properly again.
  Unfortunately I have to pick up a presentation for upcoming
 Wednesday.
  Anyone in or near Karlsruhe BTW?
 
  Urs
 
  
   Cheers,
  
   A
  
   On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
   mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
  
  
  
   Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org writes:
   
Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me...
I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't
 have a
working LilyPond at hand.
   
I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be
 adapted to a
recent LilyPond improvement.
   
Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation
 instructions
and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise,
 there will be
unhappy people with either variant for a long time.
  
   I think in the case of openLilyLib I will manually update the
 code and
   include a version switch. openLilyLib should in general work
 with all
   versions at least since the latest stable release.
  
   Users should not do any update/convert-ly themselves, they
 rather
   download or 'git pull' updated versions of the library.
  
   Urs
  
  
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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Urs,

My desktop is a gentoo system which builds directly from the git repository
(gentoo has something like a live package, with a version number - at
the end, that pulls from the live branch). On my sytem, that returns a lily
version of 2.19.22. My laptop, however, is an ubuntu system (never managed
to get gentoo working on it, alas!), for which I have 2.19.21 installed
from the .sh file available on the website.

So, it's probably the case that whatever the issue is will come up again
when I get home. If it's any help, a lot of my system fonts now appear much
sharper (say, in the file manager, or Firefox), which I suspect has to do
with a recent update to one of the base packages. I'll let you know when I
get home.

Thanks for the help.

A

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:



 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
  Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
  openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have
  other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
  2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are
 minor.

 2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built LilyPond?

 
  Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
  problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?

 It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
 2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?

 If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at home
 again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.

 I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
 parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
 code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.

 I'm approaching the state to be able to work properly again.
 Unfortunately I have to pick up a presentation for upcoming Wednesday.
 Anyone in or near Karlsruhe BTW?

 Urs

 
  Cheers,
 
  A
 
  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
  Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
   Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org writes:
  
   Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me...
   I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a
   working LilyPond at hand.
  
   I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted to
 a
   recent LilyPond improvement.
  
   Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation instructions
   and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise, there will
 be
   unhappy people with either variant for a long time.
 
  I think in the case of openLilyLib I will manually update the code
 and
  include a version switch. openLilyLib should in general work with all
  versions at least since the latest stable release.
 
  Users should not do any update/convert-ly themselves, they rather
  download or 'git pull' updated versions of the library.
 
  Urs
 
 
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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread Urs Liska


Am 27.06.2015 um 11:22 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Hi Urs,
 
 My desktop is a gentoo system which builds directly from the git
 repository (gentoo has something like a live package, with a version
 number - at the end, that pulls from the live branch). On my sytem,
 that returns a lily version of 2.19.22. 

Oh, interesting.

 My laptop, however, is an ubuntu
 system (never managed to get gentoo working on it, alas!), for which I
 have 2.19.21 installed from the .sh file available on the website.
 
 So, it's probably the case that whatever the issue is will come up again
 when I get home. 

Surely.

 If it's any help, a lot of my system fonts now appear
 much sharper (say, in the file manager, or Firefox), which I suspect has
 to do with a recent update to one of the base packages. I'll let you
 know when I get home.
 
 Thanks for the help.
 

Could you please add an issue to
https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues

Best
Urs

 A
 
 On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
  Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
  openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have
  other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
  2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are 
 minor.
 
 2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built LilyPond?
 
 
  Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
  problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?
 
 It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
 2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?
 
 If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at home
 again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.
 
 I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
 parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
 code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.
 
 I'm approaching the state to be able to work properly again.
 Unfortunately I have to pick up a presentation for upcoming Wednesday.
 Anyone in or near Karlsruhe BTW?
 
 Urs
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  A
 
  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org 
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
  Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
   Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org writes:
  
   Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me...
   I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a
   working LilyPond at hand.
  
   I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted 
 to a
   recent LilyPond improvement.
  
   Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation 
 instructions
   and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise, there 
 will be
   unhappy people with either variant for a long time.
 
  I think in the case of openLilyLib I will manually update the code 
 and
  include a version switch. openLilyLib should in general work with 
 all
  versions at least since the latest stable release.
 
  Users should not do any update/convert-ly themselves, they rather
  download or 'git pull' updated versions of the library.
 
  Urs
 
 
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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the openlilylib
directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have other issues --
namely that my production box is running lilypond 2.19.22, which I can't
seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are minor.

Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a problem
on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?

Cheers,

A

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:



 Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
  Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
 
  Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me...
  I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a
  working LilyPond at hand.
 
  I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted to a
  recent LilyPond improvement.
 
  Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation instructions
  and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise, there will be
  unhappy people with either variant for a long time.

 I think in the case of openLilyLib I will manually update the code and
 include a version switch. openLilyLib should in general work with all
 versions at least since the latest stable release.

 Users should not do any update/convert-ly themselves, they rather
 download or 'git pull' updated versions of the library.

 Urs


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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:

 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
 openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have
 other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
 2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are minor.

 2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built LilyPond?

 
 Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
 problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?

 It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
 2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?

 If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at home
 again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.

 I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
 parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
 code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.

Unfortunately, 2.19.22 has not yet been released so there is 2.19.22
before change and 2.19.22 after change rather than 2.19.22 at the
point of its release.

It might be more reliable to use something like

(catch 'wrong-number-of-args
  (lambda () (something bla))
  (lambda _ (something parser bla)))

which just tries the new calling convention and, failing that, reverts
to the old call.

-- 
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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread Urs Liska


Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
 openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have
 other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
 2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are minor.

2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built LilyPond?

 
 Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
 problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?

It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?

If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at home
again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.

I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.

I'm approaching the state to be able to work properly again.
Unfortunately I have to pick up a presentation for upcoming Wednesday.
Anyone in or near Karlsruhe BTW?

Urs

 
 Cheers,
 
 A
 
 On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
 Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
  Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org writes:
 
  Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me...
  I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a
  working LilyPond at hand.
 
  I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted to a
  recent LilyPond improvement.
 
  Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation instructions
  and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise, there will be
  unhappy people with either variant for a long time.
 
 I think in the case of openLilyLib I will manually update the code and
 include a version switch. openLilyLib should in general work with all
 versions at least since the latest stable release.
 
 Users should not do any update/convert-ly themselves, they rather
 download or 'git pull' updated versions of the library.
 
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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread Urs Liska


Am 27.06.2015 um 11:22 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Hi Urs,
 
 My desktop is a gentoo system which builds directly from the git
 repository (gentoo has something like a live package, with a version
 number - at the end, that pulls from the live branch). On my sytem,
 that returns a lily version of 2.19.22. 

Oh, interesting.

 My laptop, however, is an ubuntu
 system (never managed to get gentoo working on it, alas!), for which I
 have 2.19.21 installed from the .sh file available on the website.
 
 So, it's probably the case that whatever the issue is will come up again
 when I get home. 

Surely.

 If it's any help, a lot of my system fonts now appear
 much sharper (say, in the file manager, or Firefox), which I suspect has
 to do with a recent update to one of the base packages. I'll let you
 know when I get home.
 
 Thanks for the help.
 

Could you please add an issue to
https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/issues

Best
Urs

 A
 
 On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
  Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
  openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have
  other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
  2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are 
 minor.
 
 2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built LilyPond?
 
 
  Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
  problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?
 
 It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
 2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?
 
 If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at home
 again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.
 
 I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
 parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
 code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.
 
 I'm approaching the state to be able to work properly again.
 Unfortunately I have to pick up a presentation for upcoming Wednesday.
 Anyone in or near Karlsruhe BTW?
 
 Urs
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  A
 
  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org 
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
  mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org wrote:
 
 
 
  Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
   Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org
 mailto:u...@openlilylib.org mailto:u...@openlilylib.org writes:
  
   Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me...
   I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a
   working LilyPond at hand.
  
   I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted 
 to a
   recent LilyPond improvement.
  
   Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation 
 instructions
   and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise, there 
 will be
   unhappy people with either variant for a long time.
 
  I think in the case of openLilyLib I will manually update the code 
 and
  include a version switch. openLilyLib should in general work with 
 all
  versions at least since the latest stable release.
 
  Users should not do any update/convert-ly themselves, they rather
  download or 'git pull' updated versions of the library.
 
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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread Urs Liska


Am 27.06.2015 um 11:34 schrieb David Kastrup:
 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
 
 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
 openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have
 other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
 2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are minor.

 2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built LilyPond?


 Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
 problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?

 It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
 2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?

 If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at home
 again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.

 I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
 parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
 code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.
 
 Unfortunately, 2.19.22 has not yet been released so there is 2.19.22
 before change and 2.19.22 after change rather than 2.19.22 at the
 point of its release.
 
 It might be more reliable to use something like
 
 (catch 'wrong-number-of-args
   (lambda () (something bla))
   (lambda _ (something parser bla)))
 
 which just tries the new calling convention and, failing that, reverts
 to the old call.

That's surely cleaner. But I'll stick to my simpler approach because if
I add this switch which will execute the new code when version =
2.19.22 this will only fail for someone who has a custom build from not
the latest master. *If* someone should run in that corner case and
really needs to use that functionality that person could afford pulling
the latest master and building LilyPond IMO

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-27 Thread Urs Liska


Am 27.06.2015 um 11:34 schrieb David Kastrup:
 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
 
 Am 27.06.2015 um 11:04 schrieb N. Andrew Walsh:
 Well, I've now loaded this up on my laptop, and re-cloned the
 openlilylib directory, and now the problem no longer appears. I have
 other issues -- namely that my production box is running lilypond
 2.19.22, which I can't seem to install from ubuntu -- but those are minor.

 2.19.22 isn't released yet AFAICS. Do you have a custom built LilyPond?


 Urs, did you update something on the git tree, or was this simply a
 problem on my side that I'll run into again when I get back home?

 It's not clear what you say. Do you have a laptop with something 
 2.19.22 and a home pc with a custom build from the 2.19.22 line?

 If that's the case then probably you'll experience the problem at home
 again because the changes in LilyPond have been introduced there.

 I assume I'll have to change the implementation (and look for other
 parts where this might matter) and introduce a version switch so the
 code executed from openLilyLib depends on the LilyPond version.
 
 Unfortunately, 2.19.22 has not yet been released so there is 2.19.22
 before change and 2.19.22 after change rather than 2.19.22 at the
 point of its release.
 
 It might be more reliable to use something like
 
 (catch 'wrong-number-of-args
   (lambda () (something bla))
   (lambda _ (something parser bla)))
 
 which just tries the new calling convention and, failing that, reverts
 to the old call.

That's surely cleaner. But I'll stick to my simpler approach because if
I add this switch which will execute the new code when version =
2.19.22 this will only fail for someone who has a custom build from not
the latest master. *If* someone should run in that corner case and
really needs to use that functionality that person could afford pulling
the latest master and building LilyPond IMO

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread tisimst
Andrew,

Looks like you need to go into the file
/home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib and change the line

(ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
\_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)

to

(ly:parser-include-string \\include \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)

(i.e., remove the parser argument). See if that helps. There could be more
to it than that, but that might at least get you past this error.

- Abraham

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, N. Andrew Walsh [via Lilypond] 
ml-node+s1069038n178240...@n5.nabble.com wrote:

 I had the message below rejected, because the pdf output was too large for
 the list (though 400k seems not that large these days; maybe that's
 wrong?). Anyway, can anybody help with the errors I'm getting? I can send
 the pdf privately, if anybody's interested.

 Cheers,

 A
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: N. Andrew Walsh [hidden email]
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 Date: Jun 26, 2015 3:41 PM
 Subject: garbled output, error
 To: lilypond-user [hidden email]
 http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=178240i=1
 Cc:

 I would normally submit this to a bug list, but this deals with
 openlilylib, so I'm not sure where to send it.

 Anyway, I have some system updates between now and my last use of Lily.
 When I tried again today, two things happened:

 first, the first PDF output made all the text parts (dynamics, titles,
 time signatures, etc) *huge* (see attached file. Second, when I updated
 Lily and Frescobaldi, I got this error:

 Starting lilypond 2.19.22 [transkription kayser psalmi in vesperas.ly]...

 Processing `/home/[$HOME]/transkription kayser/psalmi in
 vesperas/transkription kayser psalmi in vesperas.ly'

 Parsing.../home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9
 http://0: In procedure ly:parser-include-string in expression
 (ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
 \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\):

 /home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9 http://1: Wrong
 number of arguments to #primitive-procedure ly:parser-include-string

 Exited with return code 1.


 Whoops?

 Any advice on what's going wrong? Is the former a more normal bug that I
 should submit to the bug-list? Is the latter something about recent
 openlilylib that might cause issues?

 Cheers,

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Re: Fwd: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread David Kastrup
N. Andrew Walsh n.andrew.wa...@gmail.com writes:

 I had the message below rejected, because the pdf output was too large for
 the list (though 400k seems not that large these days; maybe that's
 wrong?). Anyway, can anybody help with the errors I'm getting? I can send
 the pdf privately, if anybody's interested.

[...]

 Starting lilypond 2.19.22 [transkription kayser psalmi in vesperas.ly]...

 Processing `/home/[$HOME]/transkription kayser/psalmi in
 vesperas/transkription kayser psalmi in vesperas.ly'

 Parsing.../home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9 http://0:
 In procedure ly:parser-include-string in expression
 (ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
 \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\):

 /home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9 http://1: Wrong
 number of arguments to #primitive-procedure ly:parser-include-string

 Exited with return code 1.


 Whoops?

 Any advice on what's going wrong? Is the former a more normal bug that I
 should submit to the bug-list? Is the latter something about recent
 openlilylib that might cause issues?

Change in LilyPond.

Try running

convert-ly -ed

on the file in question.  If it has a proper \version header pointing to
the correct version (namely a version _before_ 2.19.22), you have a
rather good chance that the upgrade to version 2.19.22 that convert-ly
performs will do the trick.

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread David Kastrup
tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 Andrew,

 Looks like you need to go into the file
 /home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib and change the line

 (ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
 \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)

 to

 (ly:parser-include-string \\include \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)

 (i.e., remove the parser argument). See if that helps. There could be more
 to it than that, but that might at least get you past this error.

It's better to let convert-ly do the work rather than try to edit
everything by hand.

Even if it is just to give me the impression that the days I spend on
devising a working convert-ly rule for complex conversions are not a
waste of time.

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread Urs Liska
Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me... 
I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a working 
LilyPond at hand. 

I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted to a recent 
LilyPond improvement.

Urs

Am 26. Juni 2015 23:20:32 MESZ, schrieb tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com:
Andrew,

Looks like you need to go into the file
/home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib and change the line

(ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
\_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)

to

(ly:parser-include-string \\include
\_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)

(i.e., remove the parser argument). See if that helps. There could be
more
to it than that, but that might at least get you past this error.

- Abraham

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, N. Andrew Walsh [via Lilypond] 
ml-node+s1069038n178240...@n5.nabble.com wrote:

 I had the message below rejected, because the pdf output was too
large for
 the list (though 400k seems not that large these days; maybe that's
 wrong?). Anyway, can anybody help with the errors I'm getting? I can
send
 the pdf privately, if anybody's interested.

 Cheers,

 A
 -- Forwarded message --
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 Date: Jun 26, 2015 3:41 PM
 Subject: garbled output, error
 To: lilypond-user [hidden email]
 http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=178240i=1
 Cc:

 I would normally submit this to a bug list, but this deals with
 openlilylib, so I'm not sure where to send it.

 Anyway, I have some system updates between now and my last use of
Lily.
 When I tried again today, two things happened:

 first, the first PDF output made all the text parts (dynamics,
titles,
 time signatures, etc) *huge* (see attached file. Second, when I
updated
 Lily and Frescobaldi, I got this error:

 Starting lilypond 2.19.22 [transkription kayser psalmi in
vesperas.ly]...

 Processing `/home/[$HOME]/transkription kayser/psalmi in
 vesperas/transkription kayser psalmi in vesperas.ly'

 Parsing.../home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9
 http://0: In procedure ly:parser-include-string in expression
 (ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
 \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\):

 /home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9 http://1:
Wrong
 number of arguments to #primitive-procedure
ly:parser-include-string

 Exited with return code 1.


 Whoops?

 Any advice on what's going wrong? Is the former a more normal bug
that I
 should submit to the bug-list? Is the latter something about recent
 openlilylib that might cause issues?

 Cheers,

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread tisimst
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:31 PM, David Kastrup [via Lilypond] 
ml-node+s1069038n178244...@n5.nabble.com wrote:

 tisimst [hidden email]
 http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=178244i=0 writes:

  Andrew,
 
  Looks like you need to go into the file
  /home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib and change the line
 
  (ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
  \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)
 
  to
 
  (ly:parser-include-string \\include
 \_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\)
 
  (i.e., remove the parser argument). See if that helps. There could be
 more
  to it than that, but that might at least get you past this error.

 It's better to let convert-ly do the work rather than try to edit
 everything by hand.

 Even if it is just to give me the impression that the days I spend on
 devising a working convert-ly rule for complex conversions are not a
 waste of time.


I'll +1 to that! I knew you had done a bunch of work to simplify the
arguments for these kinds of functions, but I forgot about using
convert-ly.




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Fwd: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
I had the message below rejected, because the pdf output was too large for
the list (though 400k seems not that large these days; maybe that's
wrong?). Anyway, can anybody help with the errors I'm getting? I can send
the pdf privately, if anybody's interested.

Cheers,

A
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Date: Jun 26, 2015 3:41 PM
Subject: garbled output, error
To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Cc:

I would normally submit this to a bug list, but this deals with
openlilylib, so I'm not sure where to send it.

Anyway, I have some system updates between now and my last use of Lily.
When I tried again today, two things happened:

first, the first PDF output made all the text parts (dynamics, titles, time
signatures, etc) *huge* (see attached file. Second, when I updated Lily and
Frescobaldi, I got this error:

Starting lilypond 2.19.22 [transkription kayser psalmi in vesperas.ly]...

Processing `/home/[$HOME]/transkription kayser/psalmi in
vesperas/transkription kayser psalmi in vesperas.ly'

Parsing.../home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9 http://0:
In procedure ly:parser-include-string in expression
(ly:parser-include-string parser \\include
\_internal/init-openlilylib.ily\):

/home/[$HOME]/.lilypond/openlilylib/ly/openlilylib:28:9 http://1: Wrong
number of arguments to #primitive-procedure ly:parser-include-string

Exited with return code 1.


Whoops?

Any advice on what's going wrong? Is the former a more normal bug that I
should submit to the bug-list? Is the latter something about recent
openlilylib that might cause issues?

Cheers,

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread Urs Liska


Am 26.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb David Kastrup:
 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
 
 Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me... 
 I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a
 working LilyPond at hand.

 I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted to a
 recent LilyPond improvement.
 
 Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation instructions
 and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise, there will be
 unhappy people with either variant for a long time.

I think in the case of openLilyLib I will manually update the code and
include a version switch. openLilyLib should in general work with all
versions at least since the latest stable release.

Users should not do any update/convert-ly themselves, they rather
download or 'git pull' updated versions of the library.

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Re: garbled output, error

2015-06-26 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:

 Oh, I didn't realize this might be for me... 
 I'll try to look into it ASAP. But at the moment I don't have a
 working LilyPond at hand.

 I have some ideas, though. Maybe openlilylib has to be adapted to a
 recent LilyPond improvement.

Well, it's probably most reliable if your installation instructions
and/or scripts include a run of convert-ly.  Otherwise, there will be
unhappy people with either variant for a long time.

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