graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Aaron Mehl
Hi all,

I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus, my
first choice would have been scribus, but scribus
doesn't like lilypond svgs?

My next choice is png but scribus complains they are
to low resolution.

so:
1. could someone else try an svg from lilypond and see
if it works for them in scribus? If not this might be
a bug.

2. is there a way to pass resolution parameters to the
backend that is making the png files?

thanks
Aaron



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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 19 September 2005 16.21, Aaron Mehl wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus, my
 first choice would have been scribus, but scribus
 doesn't like lilypond svgs?

I don't fully understand what you want, but if it's just that you need to 
import lilypond's output into scribus, then you can always import pdf or ps.

And for png resolution: AFAIK, pngs are created from ps output, using gs. If 
you use lilypond --verbose, you'll see the actual gs command. You can change 
resolution by playing around with the parameters.

-- 
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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Kris Shaffer

You can use

lilypond --png -dresolution=110

to get a 110DPI png image (Lilypond manual, section 5.2).  Just adjust the  
resolution value accordingly.


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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:49:06 -0400, Erik Sandberg  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Monday 19 September 2005 16.21, Aaron Mehl wrote:

Hi all,

I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus, my
first choice would have been scribus, but scribus
doesn't like lilypond svgs?


I don't fully understand what you want, but if it's just that you need to
import lilypond's output into scribus, then you can always import pdf or  
ps.


And for png resolution: AFAIK, pngs are created from ps output, using  
gs. If
you use lilypond --verbose, you'll see the actual gs command. You can  
change

resolution by playing around with the parameters.



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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Daniel Johnson

Aaron Mehl wrote:


1. could someone else try an svg from lilypond and see
if it works for them in scribus? If not this might be
a bug.

2. is there a way to pass resolution parameters to the
backend that is making the png files?
 


Two things I recently found out about SVG:

1. Since every implementation of an SVG renderer is different, since the 
SVG standard is a bit fluid, and since Lilypond SVG output is 
necessarily complex, the developers have settled upon Inkscape as the 
SVG renderer/editor that they will target.  Single-page (see item 2 
below) Lilypond SVG output is openable in Inkscape.  Possibly Inkscape 
could save it in a format that other SVG renderers are happier with... I 
haven't tried.


2. There is no SVG standard for multi-page documents, so multi-page 
Lilypond SVG output will not render correctly in any SVG renderer.  In 
Inkscape, it will just overlap all the pages on a single page.  Han-Wen 
has let it be known that the ability to burst pages for SVG output is a 
feature that would cost 80 EUR.  I am planning on at least partially 
sponsoring this in a few weeks when I get some money, but if someone 
else wants to beat me to it, please be my guest... I have other features 
on my wish-list that I can devote my money to.


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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Aaron Mehl
That's it thanks
Aaron

--- Kris Shaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can use
 
   lilypond --png -dresolution=110
 
 to get a 110DPI png image (Lilypond manual, section
 5.2).  Just adjust the  
 resolution value accordingly.
 
 -- 
 Kris Shaffer
 graduate student in music theory, Yale University
 co-editor-in-chief for music theory, AmSteg.org
 www.shaffermusic.com
 
 
 On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:49:06 -0400, Erik Sandberg  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Monday 19 September 2005 16.21, Aaron Mehl
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus,
 my
  first choice would have been scribus, but scribus
  doesn't like lilypond svgs?
 
  I don't fully understand what you want, but if
 it's just that you need to
  import lilypond's output into scribus, then you
 can always import pdf or  
  ps.
 
  And for png resolution: AFAIK, pngs are created
 from ps output, using  
  gs. If
  you use lilypond --verbose, you'll see the actual
 gs command. You can  
  change
  resolution by playing around with the parameters.
 
 
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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Aaron Mehl

Well I was hoping to get an svg that would import,
then I could use it also in xml and xhtml etc.

but inkscape does open the svg output.

The scribus developers said that they tested my svg
file and it was the problem.

however I didn't check one without lyrics maybe that
is the issue.

Aaron
--- Erik Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Monday 19 September 2005 16.21, Aaron Mehl wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I am trying to add lilypond output into scribus,
 my
  first choice would have been scribus, but scribus
  doesn't like lilypond svgs?
 
 I don't fully understand what you want, but if it's
 just that you need to 
 import lilypond's output into scribus, then you can
 always import pdf or ps.
 
 And for png resolution: AFAIK, pngs are created from
 ps output, using gs. If 
 you use lilypond --verbose, you'll see the actual gs
 command. You can change 
 resolution by playing around with the parameters.
 
 -- 
 Erik
 




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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Aaron Mehl wrote:

The scribus developers said that they tested my svg
file and it was the problem.


can you be more specific?

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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Daniel Johnson wrote:
2. There is no SVG standard for multi-page documents, so multi-page 


Actually, there is, but it's in the working draft of SVG 1.2. Inkscape 
doesn't support 1.1 fully last time we looked, so they haven't started 
on doing SVG 1.2 yet.


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Re: graphics gripe

2005-09-19 Thread Aaron Mehl
Yes I can now that I read erik's email,

The lilypond file in scribus looked like a few files
mashed together, which I understand now is because the
svg doesn't support mutiple pages.

they ran it through a parser and got errors, which I
assume had to do with the multiple page issue.

I tried however a smaller file and it still didn't
look good in scribus.

I wonder if there is a way to save it with better
settings in inkscape so scribus will read it?

In either case I have switched from png to pdf for
scribus and for the time being it is a better choice.

If I had any money I would gladly join in to sponser
better svg support but there is little hope of that...


Aaron

--- Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aaron Mehl wrote:
  The scribus developers said that they tested my
 svg
  file and it was the problem.
 
 can you be more specific?
 
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   Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen
 


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