Re: left-aligned dynamics
Am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 07:15:47 schrieb James Bailey: that, and always get the alignment I want. However, you did give me a brilliant idea. Chain the two together. instead of having a variable assigned to the dynamic + text and a variable to the shift, I can just have a variable assigned to do both at the same time, i.e., pcantabile = \once \override … #( make-dynamic-script… Doesn't work, since you want to attach the dynamic script to the previous note, which \override does not support... You'll run into the same problems as the \textCresc commands (ie. they appear a note too late). Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
Hello James,
Yes, that is certainly a much easier solution. For some reason when I tried
your override last night, it had no effect -- hence my experimenting. I
suppose I must have placed it badly, because now it works just fine.
Anyway, best of luck!
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:15 AM, James Bailey
derhindem...@googlemail.comwrote:
On 26.01.2010, at 02:01, David Nalesnik wrote:
Hello,
Fiddling around with the snippet Centering markup on noteheads
automatically, http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=637 I came up with
something which might be useful (or duplicate a far easier solution!). I
realize that it doesn't address the problem of center-aligning only the
dynamic (the function seems to align the left edge of the dynamic with the
note -- hence my guess at an offset of 0.6). Of course, this offset would
have to be adjusted for pp ppp, etc. At least this will give similar
results for p, dolce p, espressivo and so on.
\version 2.12.3
pcantabile = #(
make-dynamic-script (
markup #:line (
#:dynamic p #:hspace -1 #:normal-text #:italic , cantabile
)
)
)
dynamicTextLeftAlign = \once \override DynamicText #'X-offset =
#(lambda (grob)
(-
(+
(ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self grob)
(interval-center
(ly:grob-robust-relative-extent grob grob X)))
0.6))
{
\dynamicTextLeftAlign
a'\pcantabile b' c' d'
}
Given that the values would probably have to be changed in different
context, hard-coding a number to this is really not a very good solution.
Also, since the alignment is easily achieved with \once \override
DynamicText #'X-offset = -1. It's far easier to just use that, and always
get the alignment I want. However, you did give me a brilliant idea. Chain
the two together. instead of having a variable assigned to the dynamic +
text and a variable to the shift, I can just have a variable assigned to do
both at the same time, i.e., pcantabile = \once \override … #(
make-dynamic-script…
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left-aligned dynamics
I use the Scheme hack to get dynamics that sound properly with text: pcantabile = #( make-dynamic-script ( markup #:line ( #:dynamic p #:hspace -1 #:normal-text #:italic , cantabile ) ) ) Since I really don't understand any of how that works (I mean, I understand that it's markup written in Scheme language, I just don't understand the Scheme bits) can someone tell me how to modify this so that it's left-aligned, rather than center aligned like normal dynamics. I already have a shortcut defined for \once \override DynamicText #'direction = #-1, but it would be nice to not have to put that in, since every time I use one of these dynamic scripts, I want it left-aligned. Any help is much appreciated. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
Am Montag, 25. Januar 2010 20:18:10 schrieb James Bailey: I use the Scheme hack to get dynamics that sound properly with text: [...] Since I really don't understand any of how that works (I mean, I understand that it's markup written in Scheme language, I just don't understand the Scheme bits) can someone tell me how to modify this so that it's left-aligned, rather than center aligned like normal dynamics. I already have a shortcut defined for \once \override DynamicText #'direction = #-1, but it would be nice to not have to put that in, since every time I use one of these dynamic scripts, I want it left-aligned. See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=393 for some hints. Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
On 25.01.2010, at 21:49, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Montag, 25. Januar 2010 20:18:10 schrieb James Bailey: I use the Scheme hack to get dynamics that sound properly with text: [...] Since I really don't understand any of how that works (I mean, I understand that it's markup written in Scheme language, I just don't understand the Scheme bits) can someone tell me how to modify this so that it's left-aligned, rather than center aligned like normal dynamics. I already have a shortcut defined for \once \override DynamicText #'direction = #-1, but it would be nice to not have to put that in, since every time I use one of these dynamic scripts, I want it left-aligned. See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=393 for some hints. Cheers, Reinhold Thanks for the link. I realize now that I asked a poor question. (Mostly because I didn't understand it myself. What I really want to do is set the X-offset to LEFT inside the Scheme defintion. Is that possible? If not, I'm okay with it, I've lived with it this long, I just thought I'd ask. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
On 25.01.2010, at 21:49, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Montag, 25. Januar 2010 20:18:10 schrieb James Bailey: I use the Scheme hack to get dynamics that sound properly with text: [...] Since I really don't understand any of how that works (I mean, I understand that it's markup written in Scheme language, I just don't understand the Scheme bits) can someone tell me how to modify this so that it's left-aligned, rather than center aligned like normal dynamics. I already have a shortcut defined for \once \override DynamicText #'direction = #-1, but it would be nice to not have to put that in, since every time I use one of these dynamic scripts, I want it left-aligned. See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=393 for some hints. Cheers, Reinhold Thanks for the link. I realize now that I asked a poor question. (Mostly because I didn't understand it myself. What I really want to do is set the X-offset to LEFT inside the Scheme defintion. Is that possible? If not, I'm okay with it, I've lived with it this long, I just thought I'd ask. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
Hi James, What I really want to do is set the X-offset to LEFT inside the Scheme defintion. Is that possible? If not, I'm okay with it, I've lived with it this long, I just thought I'd ask. IIRC, we discussed this when that snippet was being developed — and the answer ended up being No. =( However, you can always write a music function which would do the alignment for you. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
Am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 00:53:16 schrieben Sie: Hi James, What I really want to do is set the X-offset to LEFT inside the Scheme defintion. Is that possible? If not, I'm okay with it, I've lived with it this long, I just thought I'd ask. IIRC, we discussed this when that snippet was being developed — and the answer ended up being No. =( However, you can always write a music function which would do the alignment for you. IIRC, the snippet had some deeper requirements, namely that pp and sempre pp should be lined up exactly, where the pp is center-aligned. That's much harder than simply setting the dynamic text to left/right aligned. Simply changing the DynamicText to left-aligned might be possible including the equivalent of a \tweak in the scheme code. But then, it might be the case that the make-dynamic-script command does not return the dynamic text object, and then this approach is not possible, either (like you cannot change e.g. the color of a stem using a \tweak, since the note like c4 does not return the stem object). Cheers, Reinhld -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
Hi Reinhold, IIRC, the snippet had some deeper requirements, namely that pp and sempre pp should be lined up exactly, where the pp is center-aligned. That's much harder than simply setting the dynamic text to left/right aligned. Why can't the process be: 1. Vertically combine the NoteColumn and dynamic text (centered). 2. Add the text, baseline-aligned with the dynamic. That would solve the problem, yes? Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
Am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 01:09:18 schrieben Sie: Hi Reinhold, IIRC, the snippet had some deeper requirements, namely that pp and sempre pp should be lined up exactly, where the pp is center-aligned. That's much harder than simply setting the dynamic text to left/right aligned. Why can't the process be: 1. Vertically combine the NoteColumn and dynamic text (centered). 2. Add the text, baseline-aligned with the dynamic. Basically, I think so, but to be honest, I have no idea how that could be achieved automatically (nor how it could be implemented)... That would solve the problem, yes? You are more than welcome to provide a proper solution instead of the nasty hacks that I collected for that snippet... Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: left-aligned dynamics
Hello,
Fiddling around with the snippet Centering markup on noteheads
automatically, http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=637 I came up with
something which might be useful (or duplicate a far easier solution!). I
realize that it doesn't address the problem of center-aligning only the
dynamic (the function seems to align the left edge of the dynamic with the
note -- hence my guess at an offset of 0.6). Of course, this offset would
have to be adjusted for pp ppp, etc. At least this will give similar
results for p, dolce p, espressivo and so on.
\version 2.12.3
pcantabile = #(
make-dynamic-script (
markup #:line (
#:dynamic p #:hspace -1 #:normal-text #:italic , cantabile
)
)
)
dynamicTextLeftAlign = \once \override DynamicText #'X-offset =
#(lambda (grob)
(-
(+
(ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self grob)
(interval-center
(ly:grob-robust-relative-extent grob grob X)))
0.6))
{
\dynamicTextLeftAlign
a'\pcantabile b' c' d'
}
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Re: left-aligned dynamics
On 26.01.2010, at 02:01, David Nalesnik wrote:
Hello,
Fiddling around with the snippet Centering markup on noteheads
automatically, http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=637 I came up
with something which might be useful (or duplicate a far easier
solution!). I realize that it doesn't address the problem of center-
aligning only the dynamic (the function seems to align the left
edge of the dynamic with the note -- hence my guess at an offset of
0.6). Of course, this offset would have to be adjusted for pp
ppp, etc. At least this will give similar results for p, dolce
p, espressivo and so on.
\version 2.12.3
pcantabile = #(
make-dynamic-script (
markup #:line (
#:dynamic p #:hspace -1 #:normal-text #:italic ,
cantabile
)
)
)
dynamicTextLeftAlign = \once \override DynamicText #'X-offset =
#(lambda (grob)
(-
(+
(ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self grob)
(interval-center
(ly:grob-robust-relative-extent grob grob X)))
0.6))
{
\dynamicTextLeftAlign
a'\pcantabile b' c' d'
}
Given that the values would probably have to be changed in different
context, hard-coding a number to this is really not a very good
solution. Also, since the alignment is easily achieved with \once
\override DynamicText #'X-offset = -1. It's far easier to just use
that, and always get the alignment I want. However, you did give me a
brilliant idea. Chain the two together. instead of having a variable
assigned to the dynamic + text and a variable to the shift, I can
just have a variable assigned to do both at the same time, i.e.,
pcantabile = \once \override … #( make-dynamic-script…___
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