Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Mike Dean
Robin: That worked (especially after putting it in each hand in the piano
score. Thanks
Mike Dean


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 1:18 PM Robin Bannister  wrote:

> Mike Dean wrote:
> > Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take
> the  \time
> > 3/4
> > out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the
> > Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on
>
> Check out
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00073.html
>
> You may not need to bother with '\once'
>
>
> Cheers,
> Robin
>


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Robin Bannister

Mike Dean wrote:

Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take the  \time
3/4
out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the
Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on


Check out
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00073.html

You may not need to bother with '\once'


Cheers,
Robin



Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
No worries! Since I don’t have your file, I can’t know what warning you get.
On 3. Oct 2020, 19:59 +0200, Mike Dean , wrote:
> Martin: Perfect!!! Thanks
> Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take the  
> \time 3/4
> out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the 
> Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on
> Mike Dean
>
>
> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 2:08 AM Martín Rincón Botero 
> >  wrote:
> > > Mike, to make the fermata appear at the end of the line and not at the 
> > > beginning of the next line try using \once \override Score.RehearsalMark 
> > > #'break-visibility =
> > > #begin-of-line-invisible before the \mark.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Martín.
> > > On 3. Oct 2020, 04:34 +0200, antlists , wrote:
> > > >
> > > > the


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Mike Dean
Martin: Perfect!!! Thanks
Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take the  \time
3/4
out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the
Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on
Mike Dean


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 2:08 AM Martín Rincón Botero <
martinrinconbot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike, to make the fermata appear at the end of the line and not at the
> beginning of the next line try using \once \override Score.RehearsalMark
> #'break-visibility =
> #begin-of-line-invisible before the \mark.
>
> Cheers,
> Martín.
> On 3. Oct 2020, 04:34 +0200, antlists , wrote:
>
>
> the
>
>


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Mike, to make the fermata appear at the end of the line and not at the 
beginning of the next line try using \once \override Score.RehearsalMark 
#'break-visibility =
#begin-of-line-invisible before the \mark.

Cheers,
Martín.
On 3. Oct 2020, 04:34 +0200, antlists , wrote:
>
> the


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread antlists

On 03/10/2020 03:32, Mike Dean wrote:
Not really sure how to get the fermata over the repeat bar line rather 
than over the clef on the next line


Isn't this the default behaviour of \uFermata and friends?

Sorry I can't from memory be more specific, but I know my battle with 
fermatas was getting them to go over notes, rather than sticking 
themselves ove barlines where they wanted to be ...


Oh - just noticed you said "on the next line" - which might be the 
problem - it's put it over the "start" of the bar rather than the end. 
That might be a fruitful line of enquiry ...


Cheers,
Wol



Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-02 Thread Mike Dean
\version 2.20
{
g'4 e8 c d b |
c4_\markup Fine r \bar ":|." \mark\markup{\musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"}
}
 %End Minuet section
\break
\relative c''{
\time 3/4
\partial 4
\repeat volta 2 {
e8\mp \mark  "Trio" }

Not really sure how to get the fermata over the repeat bar line rather than
over the clef on the next line ... I did figure out how to get the Trio
mark
I'm also not sure where to put this override to remove the warning time
signature (checking the snippet repository didn't give me any clues)
\once \overrideTimeSignatureSettings = ##(#f #t #t)

Mike Dean


On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 2:00 PM antlists  wrote:

> On 01/10/2020 19:27, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> > Variables can only be defined at top level, not inside a score.
> >
> > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/file-structure
> >
> I just shove all of this sort of stuff in an include file, and include
> it at the top.
>
> I've come across things like sffz and so on, so as I come across them
> they go in this include file and they're there for next time I need them.
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
>


JHaydn-Minuetpiano.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread antlists

On 01/10/2020 19:27, Carl Sorensen wrote:

Variables can only be defined at top level, not inside a score.

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/file-structure

I just shove all of this sort of stuff in an include file, and include 
it at the top.


I've come across things like sffz and so on, so as I come across them 
they go in this include file and they're there for next time I need them.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread Mike Dean
Thanks, Carl, for the clarification..
Mark: I was coding (from memory) what was one of the Minuets in Hob.IX:8
("12 Minuets for Clavecin or Pianoforte", as it turned out after a lot of
spade work; I had thought to be a work by Mozart in his Divertimenti).
Having obtained the sheet music, I was fixing up what I had coded earlier

Mike Dean


On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:27 AM Carl Sorensen  wrote:

> Variables can only be defined at top level, not inside a score.
>
>
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/file-structure
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl Sorensen
>


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
Variables can only be defined at top level, not inside a score.

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/file-structure


Carl Sorensen


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Mike,

This works :

\version "2.20.0"

rf = #(make-dynamic-script "rf")

{ a \rf }

JM

> Le 1 oct. 2020 à 19:43, Mike Dean  a écrit :
> 
> Having stumbled across entering in \fz directly, I didn't explore any further 
> using #(make-dynamic-script).
> But since you mentioned, looking at examples in the Notation manual, I 
> understood that it should go before  the relative command.
> Precisely, I had this sequence:
> \score {
>  fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")  
> \relative c''{
> \tempo "Allegretto"
> \time 3/4
> \partial 4
> 
> and that is what generated the error
> Mike Dean
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:32 AM David Kastrup  > wrote:
> Mike Dean mailto:dean...@aquinas.edu>> writes:
> 
> > Two questions in typesetting a piece by Haydn:
> > 1. Does Fz needs to be defined (unlike sfz)?
> > 2. where should
> > fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
> > be placed in order not to generate an error?
> >
> > C:/Users/Mike
> > Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
> > C-correct.ly:14:1 <0>: error: not a note name: fz
> >
> >
> > fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
> 
> Well, apparently line 14 in your file is not a good place.  Since you
> don't show any other line, it's hard to say anything just why it is not
> a good place.
> 
> -- 
> David Kastrup



Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread Mike Dean
Having stumbled across entering in \fz directly, I didn't explore any
further using #(make-dynamic-script).
But since you mentioned, looking at examples in the Notation manual, I
understood that it should go before  the relative command.
Precisely, I had this sequence:
\score {
 fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
\relative c''{
\tempo "Allegretto"
\time 3/4
\partial 4

and that is what generated the error
Mike Dean


On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:32 AM David Kastrup  wrote:

> Mike Dean  writes:
>
> > Two questions in typesetting a piece by Haydn:
> > 1. Does Fz needs to be defined (unlike sfz)?
> > 2. where should
> > fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
> > be placed in order not to generate an error?
> >
> > C:/Users/Mike
> > Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet
> in
> > C-correct.ly:14:1 <0>: error: not a note name: fz
> >
> >
> > fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
>
> Well, apparently line 14 in your file is not a good place.  Since you
> don't show any other line, it's hard to say anything just why it is not
> a good place.
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread David Kastrup
Mike Dean  writes:

> Two questions in typesetting a piece by Haydn:
> 1. Does Fz needs to be defined (unlike sfz)?
> 2. where should
> fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
> be placed in order not to generate an error?
>
> C:/Users/Mike
> Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
> C-correct.ly:14:1 <0>: error: not a note name: fz
>
>
> fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")

Well, apparently line 14 in your file is not a good place.  Since you
don't show any other line, it's hard to say anything just why it is not
a good place.

-- 
David Kastrup



Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread Mike Dean
Two questions in typesetting a piece by Haydn:
1. Does Fz needs to be defined (unlike sfz)?
2. where should
fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
be placed in order not to generate an error?

C:/Users/Mike
Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
C-correct.ly:14:1 <0>: error: not a note name: fz


fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")


C:/Users/Mike
Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
C-correct.ly:14:4 <1>: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting '}'

fz

= #(make-dynamic-script "fz")


C:/Users/Mike
Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
C-correct.ly:38:1 <2>: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'



Mike Dean


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-01 Thread Mike Dean
Well, \fz did work without a prior definition (pleasant surprise for me,
since I didn't find a reference to it in the manual nor the LSR)
Mike Dean


On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:31 PM Mike Dean  wrote:

> Two questions in typesetting a piece by Haydn:
> 1. Does Fz needs to be defined (unlike sfz)?
> 2. where should
> fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
> be placed in order not to generate an error?
>
> C:/Users/Mike
> Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
> C-correct.ly:14:1 : error: not a note name: fz
>
>
> fz = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
>
>
> C:/Users/Mike
> Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
> C-correct.ly:14:4 : error: syntax error, unexpected '=',
> expecting '}'
>
> fz
>
> = #(make-dynamic-script "fz")
>
>
> C:/Users/Mike
> Dean/AppData/Local/Temp/frescobaldi-lis_ksvl/tmpgdr3w9ef/J-Haydn-Minuet in
> C-correct.ly:38:1 : error: syntax error, unexpected '}'
>
>
>
> Mike Dean
>


Re: Using LuaLaTex with Mac TeXLive 2020 and LilyPond 2.20 (was: Spacing of systems while using lyluatex)

2020-08-26 Thread Jacques Menu
Ooops, sorry Claire, forgot to credit you for thanks too!

JM

> Le 26 août 2020 à 18:36, Jacques Menu  a écrit :
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> Thanks to Samuel and Fernando, I’ve been able to set these two 
> Lua*TeX+se.engine files on Mac OS Mojave, taken from 
> https://github.com/gregorio-project/gregorio/tree/master/contrib/TeXShop:
> 
> menu@macbookprojm: ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines > ls -sal
> total 56
> 0 drwxr-xr-x  10 menu  admin   320 Aug 26 18:05 .
> 0 drwxr-xr-x  20 menu  admin   640 Nov 26  2019 ..
> 0 drwxr-xr-x  29 menu  admin   928 Nov 26  2019 Inactive
> 8 -rwxr-xr-x   1 menu  admin  2526 May 19  2008 Lilypond-LaTeX.engine
> 8 -rwxr-xr-x   1 menu  admin  1390 May 19  2008 Lilypond.engine
> 8 -rwxr-xr-x   1 menu  admin   200 Aug 26 17:58 LuaLaTeX+se.engine
> 8 -rwxr-xr-x   1 menu  admin   198 Aug 26 18:05 LuaTeX+se.engine
> 8 -rwxr-xr-x   1 menu  admin72 Aug 20  2007 XeLaTeX.engine
> 8 -rwxr-xr-x   1 menu  admin69 Aug 20  2007 XeTeX.engine
> 8 -rwxr-xr-x   1 menu  admin  1282 May 19  2008 convert-ly.engine
> 
> 
> menu@macbookprojm: ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines > cat LuaTeX+se.engine 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> if [[ -n ${2:+x} ]]; then
>echo "I will add $2 to the input path"
>export TEXINPUTS="$2//:"
>export LUAINPUTS="$2//:"
> fi
> luatex --shell-escape -file-line-error -synctex=1 "$1" 
> 
> 
> menu@macbookprojm: ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines > cat LuaLaTeX+se.engine 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> if [[ -n ${2:+x} ]]; then
>echo "I will add $2 to the input path"
>export TEXINPUTS="$2//:"
>export LUAINPUTS="$2//:"
> fi
> lualatex --shell-escape -file-line-error -synctex=1 "$1" 
> 
> 
> Then my test file, attached, is handled alright - see below.
> 
> Hope this helps others!
> 
> JM
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: Packaging Lilypond 2.20 for openSUSE Leap 15.2 before it's too late!

2020-04-13 Thread Daniel Woodfield
Wait.  What am I saying?  openSUSE postponed their package freeze to May 
28th as apart of their Closing the Leap Gap proposal to include some 
SUSE binaries in the distribution.  This gives more time to package 
Lilypond, but I think we should still try to get 2.20 in there if 
possible.  I'm not the one for the job.  Again, thanks for your patience.


On 4/13/20 5:48 PM, Daniel Woodfield wrote:
I just realized that Lilypond 2.20 was released (sorry, I'm a little 
slow to notice over here on Ubuntu LTS).  I'm thinking about moving to 
openSUSE when Leap 15.2 is released, but I just found out that it 
still uses Lilypond 2.18—and the package freeze is in 3 days!  (That's 
April 16).  Does anyone here know who I could ask about packaging it 
for Leap and whether that would be possible before the freeze?  I'm 
sorry if this is the wrong list, I just didn't think it really 
belonged on the development one because it's not strictly related to 
development of Lilypond itself. Thank you!






Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-28 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 28 Mar 2020, at 13:14, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18758837/xcode-quit-unexpectedly-for-my-project-not-in-xcode-4-6-3
> 
> But I found the following. In my my log files the issue occurs always with 
> the same dylib:  
> 85  libdyld.dylib 0x7fff6ede8cc9 start + 1
> 
> That might be a similar issue like the one discussed here: 
> https://github.com/sharkdp/bat/issues/680#issuecomment-553061780

There is s suggestion to run in Terminal:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister
 -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

on
  https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/120530

It is related to Xcode crashing by some stray files from different versions.

Mentioned on this page, where they had same error as you, as a fix:
https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/123855 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-28 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 28 Mar 2020, at 13:14, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18758837/xcode-quit-unexpectedly-for-my-project-not-in-xcode-4-6-3
> 
> But I found the following. In my my log files the issue occurs always with 
> the same dylib:  
> 85  libdyld.dylib 0x7fff6ede8cc9 start + 1
> 
> That might be a similar issue like the one discussed here: 
> https://github.com/sharkdp/bat/issues/680#issuecomment-553061780

On that page, they say this worked before starting the program:
  export DYLD_BIND_AT_LAUNCH=1





Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-28 Thread Moritz Heffter
>> On 27 Mar 2020, at 18:53, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>>> Try in Terminal
>>> export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
>>> 
>>> and then
>>> /opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond
>> 
>> Hmm, I have done that, but unfortunately without progress.
> 
> In the link below, the issue was solved by fixing the environment variable 
> LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATHS. Have you set it? Type ‘env’ in Terminal, to make sure 
> it is not set there.

Thanks for the hint. My environment looks quite normal and it doesn’t contain 
any Library Search Paths.

> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18758837/xcode-quit-unexpectedly-for-my-project-not-in-xcode-4-6-3

But I found the following. In my my log files the issue occurs always with the 
same dylib:  
85  libdyld.dylib   0x7fff6ede8cc9 start + 1

That might be a similar issue like the one discussed here: 
https://github.com/sharkdp/bat/issues/680#issuecomment-553061780

Best,
Moritz


Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-27 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 27 Mar 2020, at 18:53, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
>> Try in Terminal
>>  export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
>> 
>> and then
>>  /opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond
> 
> Hmm, I have done that, but unfortunately without progress.

In the link below, the issue was solved by fixing the environment variable 
LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATHS. Have you set it? Type ‘env’ in Terminal, to make sure it 
is not set there.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18758837/xcode-quit-unexpectedly-for-my-project-not-in-xcode-4-6-3





Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-27 Thread Moritz Heffter
>> On 26 Mar 2020, at 19:03, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the information. I’ve reinstalled the 2.19 package and put 
>> /opt/lilypond/bin in the PATH. I can execute lilypond from the Terminal 
>> still getting the segmentation fault. But now with a different reason:
>> 
>> Termination Signal:Segmentation fault: 11
>> Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
>> 
>> The permissions for /opt and /opt/lilypond are ok. /opt/local doesn’t exist 
>> anymore, because I removed the port packages. And it seems that all 
>> necessary packages come with the lilypond installer. Is that right?
>> 
>> My PATH now looks the following:
>> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/Library/Apple/usr/bin:/Users/username/Library/Python/3.7/bin:/opt/lilypond/bin
> 
> Try in Terminal
>  export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
> 
> and then
>  /opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond

Hmm, I have done that, but unfortunately without progress.

> The idea is to cut down as much as possible on the included binaries. The 
> MacPorts installer package should have full paths to all includes.

Ok, I got it. Even if there is nothing in PATH the error stays the same. It’s 
that „Namespace Signal“ error.

Sorry for the bad news. Is there anything else I could try? BTW, the 32-bit 
version works in a docker container.

Best,
Moritz

Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Hans Åberg



> On 26 Mar 2020, at 19:03, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the information. I’ve reinstalled the 2.19 package and put 
> /opt/lilypond/bin in the PATH. I can execute lilypond from the Terminal still 
> getting the segmentation fault. But now with a different reason:
> 
> Termination Signal:Segmentation fault: 11
> Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
> 
> The permissions for /opt and /opt/lilypond are ok. /opt/local doesn’t exist 
> anymore, because I removed the port packages. And it seems that all necessary 
> packages come with the lilypond installer. Is that right?
> 
> My PATH now looks the following:
> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/Library/Apple/usr/bin:/Users/username/Library/Python/3.7/bin:/opt/lilypond/bin

Try in Terminal
  export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

and then
  /opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond

The idea is to cut down as much as possible on the included binaries. The 
MacPorts installer package should have full paths to all includes.





Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Moritz Heffter
Thanks for the information. I’ve reinstalled the 2.19 package and put 
/opt/lilypond/bin in the PATH. I can execute lilypond from the Terminal still 
getting the segmentation fault. But now with a different reason:

Termination Signal:Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb

The permissions for /opt and /opt/lilypond are ok. /opt/local doesn’t exist 
anymore, because I removed the port packages. And it seems that all necessary 
packages come with the lilypond installer. Is that right?

My PATH now looks the following:
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/Library/Apple/usr/bin:/Users/username/Library/Python/3.7/bin:/opt/lilypond/bin

Best and great thanks for taking your time
Moritz


> Am 26.03.2020 um 14:15 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> 
> 
>> On 26 Mar 2020, at 12:57, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>> Well this is bringing me one step further. I think the problem is that some 
>> libraries are not found. Especially guile.
>> 
>> I’ve now completely removed macports (I’ve installed it only because of 
>> Lilypond) and reinstalled the Lilypond package of version 2.19 from Hans 
>> again. It installs into /opt/lilypond by default and I can’t prevent this. 
>> The result is again a segmentation fault. BTW the problem is the same with 
>> the 2.19 oder 2.20 version from macports.
> 
> Both MacPorts and the installer use full paths, so that cannot be changed. I 
> made the choice with Werner to put the installer in /opt/lilypond/ which is 
> suggested by the FHS.
> 
>> BTW, /opt is in read-only mode. I’m not able to remove it.
> 
> One should have permissions drwxr-xr-x, as by ls -l, for /opt/, /opt/local/ 
> and /opt/lilypond/.
> 
>> Maybe I have to switch off the system integrity protection for that but I’m 
>> doing this only if I have time.
> 
> 'csrutil status’ gives enabled here. So that is not the problem.
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 26 Mar 2020, at 12:57, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> BTW, /opt is in read-only mode. I’m not able to remove it.

One may have to give the Terminal app permissions, which I did in the past, but 
it is not there now, so it may or may not be required.

https://osxdaily.com/2018/10/09/fix-operation-not-permitted-terminal-error-macos/





Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Ralf Mattes
 You are running a brew-installed Lilypond, my dear ;-)
Try the following in a terminal:

$ /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/LilyPond

Cheers, RalfD

Am Donnerstag, 26. März 2020 10:57 CET, Moritz Heffter  
schrieb:

> The error is logged for lilypond-bin when I run lilypond from the Terminal:
>
> Process:   lilypond-bin [8616]
> Path:  /opt/lilypond/*/lilypond-bin
> Identifier:lilypond-bin
> Version:   0
> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
> Parent Process:zsh [1205]
> Responsible:   Terminal [1141]
>
> The zsh reports me the segmentation fault error.
>
>
> > Am 26.03.2020 um 10:45 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> >
> >
> >> On 26 Mar 2020, at 10:36, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hum, I’ve tried out different settings now and also updated the system to 
> >> the version 10.15.4 but it’s still the same error. I've also deactivated 
> >> FileVault and gave.
> >>
> >> The log file says maybe a bit more precisely:
> >>
> >> Error Code:  0x0004 (no mapping for user data read)
> >> Trap Number: 14
> >
> > Does the error occur when you run lilypond in Terminal?
> >
>
>



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Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 26 Mar 2020, at 12:57, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> Well this is bringing me one step further. I think the problem is that some 
> libraries are not found. Especially guile.
> 
> I’ve now completely removed macports (I’ve installed it only because of 
> Lilypond) and reinstalled the Lilypond package of version 2.19 from Hans 
> again. It installs into /opt/lilypond by default and I can’t prevent this. 
> The result is again a segmentation fault. BTW the problem is the same with 
> the 2.19 oder 2.20 version from macports.

Both MacPorts and the installer use full paths, so that cannot be changed. I 
made the choice with Werner to put the installer in /opt/lilypond/ which is 
suggested by the FHS.

> BTW, /opt is in read-only mode. I’m not able to remove it.

One should have permissions drwxr-xr-x, as by ls -l, for /opt/, /opt/local/ and 
/opt/lilypond/.

> Maybe I have to switch off the system integrity protection for that but I’m 
> doing this only if I have time.

'csrutil status’ gives enabled here. So that is not the problem.




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Moritz Heffter
Well this is bringing me one step further. I think the problem is that some 
libraries are not found. Especially guile.

I’ve now completely removed macports (I’ve installed it only because of 
Lilypond) and reinstalled the Lilypond package of version 2.19 from Hans again. 
It installs into /opt/lilypond by default and I can’t prevent this. The result 
is again a segmentation fault. BTW the problem is the same with the 2.19 oder 
2.20 version from macports.

BTW, /opt is in read-only mode. I’m not able to remove it. Maybe I have to 
switch off the system integrity protection for that but I’m doing this only if 
I have time.

@Ralf: Same result with the App-Package of version 2.20 from Marnen. The 
lilypond binary which is in 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond is canceled with a 
segmentation error.

The binary in /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/LilyPond starts the 
app, but the app doesn’t typeset anything. Maybe due to the problem above.

Best,
Moritz

> Am 26.03.2020 um 11:09 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> 
> 
>> On 26 Mar 2020, at 10:57, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>> The error is logged for lilypond-bin when I run lilypond from the Terminal:
>> 
>> Process:   lilypond-bin [8616]
>> Path:  /opt/lilypond/*/lilypond-bin
>> Identifier:lilypond-bin
>> Version:   0
>> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
>> Parent Process:zsh [1205]
>> Responsible:   Terminal [1141]
>> 
>> The zsh reports me the segmentation fault error.
> 
> The program from the MacPorts installer is
>  /opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond
> 
> In the standard install of MacPorts, it is
>  /opt/local/bin/lilypond
> 
> The only difference is the install location, /opt/lilypond/ vs /opt/local/.
> 
> There is:
> % /opt/local/libexec/lilypond-bin
> GNU LilyPond 2.19.84
> /opt/local/share/guile/1.8/srfi/srfi-1.scm:223:1: In procedure dynamic-link 
> in expression (load-extension "libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3" "scm_init_srfi_1"):
> /opt/local/share/guile/1.8/srfi/srfi-1.scm:223:1: file: 
> "libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3", message: "file not found"
> 
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 26 Mar 2020, at 10:57, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> The error is logged for lilypond-bin when I run lilypond from the Terminal:
> 
> Process:   lilypond-bin [8616]
> Path:  /opt/lilypond/*/lilypond-bin
> Identifier:lilypond-bin
> Version:   0
> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
> Parent Process:zsh [1205]
> Responsible:   Terminal [1141]
> 
> The zsh reports me the segmentation fault error.

The program from the MacPorts installer is
  /opt/lilypond/bin/lilypond

In the standard install of MacPorts, it is
  /opt/local/bin/lilypond

The only difference is the install location, /opt/lilypond/ vs /opt/local/.

There is:
% /opt/local/libexec/lilypond-bin
GNU LilyPond 2.19.84
/opt/local/share/guile/1.8/srfi/srfi-1.scm:223:1: In procedure dynamic-link in 
expression (load-extension "libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3" "scm_init_srfi_1"):
/opt/local/share/guile/1.8/srfi/srfi-1.scm:223:1: file: 
"libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3", message: "file not found"





Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Moritz Heffter
The error is logged for lilypond-bin when I run lilypond from the Terminal:

Process:   lilypond-bin [8616]
Path:  /opt/lilypond/*/lilypond-bin
Identifier:lilypond-bin
Version:   0
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:zsh [1205]
Responsible:   Terminal [1141]

The zsh reports me the segmentation fault error.


> Am 26.03.2020 um 10:45 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> 
> 
>> On 26 Mar 2020, at 10:36, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hum, I’ve tried out different settings now and also updated the system to 
>> the version 10.15.4 but it’s still the same error. I've also deactivated 
>> FileVault and gave.
>> 
>> The log file says maybe a bit more precisely:
>> 
>> Error Code:  0x0004 (no mapping for user data read)
>> Trap Number: 14
> 
> Does the error occur when you run lilypond in Terminal?
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 26 Mar 2020, at 10:36, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> Hum, I’ve tried out different settings now and also updated the system to the 
> version 10.15.4 but it’s still the same error. I've also deactivated 
> FileVault and gave.
> 
> The log file says maybe a bit more precisely:
> 
> Error Code:  0x0004 (no mapping for user data read)
> Trap Number: 14

Does the error occur when you run lilypond in Terminal?




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-26 Thread Moritz Heffter
Hum, I’ve tried out different settings now and also updated the system to the 
version 10.15.4 but it’s still the same error. I've also deactivated FileVault 
and gave.

The log file says maybe a bit more precisely:

Error Code:  0x0004 (no mapping for user data read)
Trap Number: 14

Best,
Moritz


> Am 24.03.2020 um 17:41 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> 
> [Keep the cc to the list so other can follow the issue.]
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2020, at 11:45, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>> My PATH variable shows the following:
>> 
>> /Users/username/Library/Python/3.7/bin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin
>> 
>> My python3 lies in /usr/local/bin/python3. Could that be the problem?
> 
> My path is
> 
> /Users/username/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/texlive/2019/bin/x86_64-darwin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11/bin
> 
> Normally, one wants the more up-to-date items earlier in the PATH, so the 
> user directory ~/bin/ before /usr/local/ which is used for installations from 
> sources, which is before /opt/, and in turn before the system paths.
> 
> Then, I use a script to run lilypond, see
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-02/msg00425.html
> 
> Likewise, you might replace your custom installation by soft links, say by
> sudo ln -s  /usr/local/bin/
> This avoids importing the whole directory into the PATH, as you have done.
> 
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-24 Thread Hans Åberg
[Keep the cc to the list so other can follow the issue.]

> On 24 Mar 2020, at 11:45, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> My PATH variable shows the following:
> 
> /Users/username/Library/Python/3.7/bin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin
> 
> My python3 lies in /usr/local/bin/python3. Could that be the problem?

My path is

/Users/username/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/texlive/2019/bin/x86_64-darwin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11/bin

Normally, one wants the more up-to-date items earlier in the PATH, so the user 
directory ~/bin/ before /usr/local/ which is used for installations from 
sources, which is before /opt/, and in turn before the system paths.

Then, I use a script to run lilypond, see
 https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-02/msg00425.html

Likewise, you might replace your custom installation by soft links, say by
 sudo ln -s  /usr/local/bin/
This avoids importing the whole directory into the PATH, as you have done.





Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-24 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 24 Mar 2020, at 10:43, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> Hum, that mean some configuration on my machine is the problem? I use another 
> package manager (brew). Could it be that there arise some incompatibilities?

It might, if you have stuff that overrides what lilypond expects to use. Check 
in Terminal what your PATH is, by the command
  echo $PATH





Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-24 Thread Urs Liska
Am Dienstag, den 24.03.2020, 10:43 +0100 schrieb Moritz Heffter:
> Hum, that mean some configuration on my machine is the problem? I use
> another package manager (brew). Could it be that there arise some
> incompatibilities?
> 

I'd be intersted to know if there is _any_ correlation to your MkDocs
issues ...

(Hi, BTW)

Urs

> Best,
> Moritz
> 
> > Am 24.03.2020 um 10:18 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> > 
> > The MacPorts 2.19.84 installer was made on essentially the same
> > hardware.
> > 
> > 
> > > On 24 Mar 2020, at 09:38, Moritz Heffter 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > It’s a new MacBook Pro 13‘ (2019) with 16/512 and an i5 (4 cores)
> > > 1,4 GHz 
> > > 
> > > > Am 23.03.2020 um 21:44 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> > > > 
> > > > What computer model is this?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On 23 Mar 2020, at 20:25, Moritz Heffter 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for this hint. I’m trying to install 2.20 on macOS
> > > > > Catalina (10.15.3) and get a segmentation fault.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I get this also with the version 2.19.84 mentioned below
> > > > > which might be pointing to a problem on my machine. Does
> > > > > anyone have suggestions what I can try?
> 
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-24 Thread Moritz Heffter
Hum, that mean some configuration on my machine is the problem? I use another 
package manager (brew). Could it be that there arise some incompatibilities?

Best,
Moritz

> Am 24.03.2020 um 10:18 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> 
> The MacPorts 2.19.84 installer was made on essentially the same hardware.
> 
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2020, at 09:38, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s a new MacBook Pro 13‘ (2019) with 16/512 and an i5 (4 cores) 1,4 GHz 
>> 
>>> Am 23.03.2020 um 21:44 schrieb Hans Åberg :
>>> 
>>> What computer model is this?
>>> 
>>> 
 On 23 Mar 2020, at 20:25, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
 
 Thanks for this hint. I’m trying to install 2.20 on macOS Catalina 
 (10.15.3) and get a segmentation fault.
 
 I get this also with the version 2.19.84 mentioned below which might be 
 pointing to a problem on my machine. Does anyone have suggestions what I 
 can try?
>>> 
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-24 Thread Hans Åberg
The MacPorts 2.19.84 installer was made on essentially the same hardware.


> On 24 Mar 2020, at 09:38, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> It’s a new MacBook Pro 13‘ (2019) with 16/512 and an i5 (4 cores) 1,4 GHz 
> 
>> Am 23.03.2020 um 21:44 schrieb Hans Åberg :
>> 
>> What computer model is this?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Mar 2020, at 20:25, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this hint. I’m trying to install 2.20 on macOS Catalina 
>>> (10.15.3) and get a segmentation fault.
>>> 
>>> I get this also with the version 2.19.84 mentioned below which might be 
>>> pointing to a problem on my machine. Does anyone have suggestions what I 
>>> can try?
>> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-24 Thread Moritz Heffter
It’s a new MacBook Pro 13‘ (2019) with 16/512 and an i5 (4 cores) 1,4 GHz 

> Am 23.03.2020 um 21:44 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> 
> What computer model is this?
> 
> 
>> On 23 Mar 2020, at 20:25, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for this hint. I’m trying to install 2.20 on macOS Catalina (10.15.3) 
>> and get a segmentation fault.
>> 
>> I get this also with the version 2.19.84 mentioned below which might be 
>> pointing to a problem on my machine. Does anyone have suggestions what I can 
>> try?
> 



Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-23 Thread Hans Åberg
What computer model is this?


> On 23 Mar 2020, at 20:25, Moritz Heffter  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this hint. I’m trying to install 2.20 on macOS Catalina (10.15.3) 
> and get a segmentation fault.
> 
> I get this also with the version 2.19.84 mentioned below which might be 
> pointing to a problem on my machine. Does anyone have suggestions what I can 
> try?




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-23 Thread Moritz Heffter
Dear all,

Thanks for this hint. I’m trying to install 2.20 on macOS Catalina (10.15.3) 
and get a segmentation fault.

I get this also with the version 2.19.84 mentioned below which might be 
pointing to a problem on my machine. Does anyone have suggestions what I can 
try?

Best,
Moritz


> Am 23.03.2020 um 09:59 schrieb Hans Åberg :
> 
> [Please keep the cc to the list so that others can follow the issue.]
> 
> With some programs, one may have to OK it in System Preferences > Security & 
> Privacy. But I think it is not needed for the MacPorts installer version.
> 
> 
>> On 22 Mar 2020, at 23:17, Eric  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, when this came up a few months ago (I think it did) I was sent a 
>> link to a .pkg containing a command-line-only version, which may still work. 
>> I just reinstalled it, I'm not sure why since now I'm going to have to reset 
>> the permissions if i can figure out how!...
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 5:10 AM Hans Åberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2020, at 05:14, Eric  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, both the latest version and 2.19.84 seem not to launch at all on 
>>> my iMac (late 2015, dual core, etc running os 10.15.3...) (2.19.84 did but 
>>> it doesn’t.)
>> 
>> What binary are you using?
>> 
> 
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-23 Thread Hans Åberg
[Please keep the cc to the list so that others can follow the issue.]

With some programs, one may have to OK it in System Preferences > Security & 
Privacy. But I think it is not needed for the MacPorts installer version.


> On 22 Mar 2020, at 23:17, Eric  wrote:
> 
> Actually, when this came up a few months ago (I think it did) I was sent a 
> link to a .pkg containing a command-line-only version, which may still work. 
> I just reinstalled it, I'm not sure why since now I'm going to have to reset 
> the permissions if i can figure out how!...
> 
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 5:10 AM Hans Åberg  wrote:
> 
> > On 3 Mar 2020, at 05:14, Eric  wrote:
> > 
> > Actually, both the latest version and 2.19.84 seem not to launch at all on 
> > my iMac (late 2015, dual core, etc running os 10.15.3...) (2.19.84 did but 
> > it doesn’t.)
> 
> What binary are you using?
> 




Re: Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-03 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 3 Mar 2020, at 05:14, Eric  wrote:
> 
> Actually, both the latest version and 2.19.84 seem not to launch at all on my 
> iMac (late 2015, dual core, etc running os 10.15.3...) (2.19.84 did but it 
> doesn’t.)

What binary are you using?





Lilypond 2.20 on Mac 10.15

2020-03-02 Thread Eric
Actually, both the latest version and 2.19.84 seem not to launch at all on
my iMac (late 2015, dual core, etc running os 10.15.3...) (2.19.84 did but
it doesn’t.)


Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley  writes:

> well, I've multiple guile-versions on my machine, though one of it is
> the distributed guile-1.8.
> If available it's the most easy way to get this one.
>
> Ofcourse the discussion is a little bit academic as you said...
> Nevertheless:
> (1)
> ~$ uname -a
> Linux kasten 4.15.0-54-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 24 10:55:24 UTC
> 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> (2)
> ~$ apt-get install --dry-run guile-1.8
> NOTE: This is only a simulation!
>   apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
>   Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
>   so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> guile-1.8 is already the newest version (1.8.8+1-10ubuntu1).
> ^

That's sort of pointless since for compiling LilyPond, you need the
development package (guile-1.8-dev I think which isn't available as far
as I remember).  The scripts are fine running with guile-2.0.

-- 
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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread Knut Petersen

On 18.07.19 14:37, Ralph Palmer wrote:

Has any progress been made in making a process available to install LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04? Back in March of this year (2019), there was a brief discussion about installing Guile 1.8 on Ubuntu 18.04, so that ly 2.20 could run. I tried to follow the suggestions, but was unsuccessful. 
If someone would be willing to work with me, perhaps off-list, and we were successful, maybe we could post a working process to enable others to install and use ly 2.20.


Build guile 1.8 yourself, then lilypond. You even could use gub:

   git clone https://github.com/gperciva/gub.git
   cd gub
   touch regtests/ignore
   make lilypond

will take some time but builds a full lilypond distribution if some basic 
development tools and texlive are installed. I don't remember exactly which 
packages are required, but I wrote about that some months ago in 
lilypond-devel. Have a look at the archives.

Knut


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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Do., 18. Juli 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Aaron Hill
:
>
> On 2019-07-18 6:13 am, Thomas Morley wrote:
> > Am Do., 18. Juli 2019 um 14:37 Uhr schrieb Ralph Palmer
> > :
> >>
> >> Greetings -
> >>
> >> I'm running LilyPond 2.19.81 with Frescobaldi 3.0.0 under Ubuntu
> >> 18.04.2.
> >>
> >> Has any progress been made in making a process available to install
> >> LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04? Back in March of this year
> >> (2019), there was a brief discussion about installing Guile 1.8 on
> >> Ubuntu 18.04, so that ly 2.20 could run. I tried to follow the
> >> suggestions, but was unsuccessful. If someone would be willing to work
> >> with me, perhaps off-list, and we were successful, maybe we could post
> >> a working process to enable others to install and use ly 2.20.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >
> > To have access to the currently not released 2.20 you'll need to
> > compile the branch stable/2.20 from the ly-git-repository. To do so
> > you need guilev1.
> > Though, isn't guile-1.8 available via synaptic?
> > At least for me, running Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit, it is...
> > Ofcourse this may be different for newer Ubuntu-versions or other OS...
>
> I have Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS and an `apt search` does not turn up
> guile-1.8.  Do you have a custom PPA?
>
> 
> > apt-cache policy | grep http | awk '{print $2 $3}' | sort -u
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-backports/main
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-backports/universe
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/main
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/multiverse
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/restricted
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/universe
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/main
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/multiverse
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/restricted
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/universe
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/fish-shell/release-2/ubuntubionic/main
> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/main
> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/multiverse
> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/restricted
> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/universe
> 
>
> Not like it matters too much, since instructions have already been
> posted for obtaining and building guilev1 manually.
>
>
> -- Aaron Hill

Hi Aaron,

well, I've multiple guile-versions on my machine, though one of it is
the distributed guile-1.8.
If available it's the most easy way to get this one.

Ofcourse the discussion is a little bit academic as you said...
Nevertheless:
(1)
~$ uname -a
Linux kasten 4.15.0-54-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 24 10:55:24 UTC
2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

(2)
~$ apt-get install --dry-run guile-1.8
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
  apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
  Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
  so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
guile-1.8 is already the newest version (1.8.8+1-10ubuntu1).
^
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libllvm7
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.

(3)
~$ apt-cache policy | grep http | awk '{print $2 $3}' | sort -u
http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntubionic/partner
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-backports/main
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-backports/universe
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/main
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/multiverse
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/restricted
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/universe
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/main
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/multiverse
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/restricted
http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/universe
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/main
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/multiverse
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/restricted
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/universe


Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread Aaron Hill

On 2019-07-18 6:13 am, Thomas Morley wrote:

Am Do., 18. Juli 2019 um 14:37 Uhr schrieb Ralph Palmer
:


Greetings -

I'm running LilyPond 2.19.81 with Frescobaldi 3.0.0 under Ubuntu 
18.04.2.


Has any progress been made in making a process available to install 
LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04? Back in March of this year 
(2019), there was a brief discussion about installing Guile 1.8 on 
Ubuntu 18.04, so that ly 2.20 could run. I tried to follow the 
suggestions, but was unsuccessful. If someone would be willing to work 
with me, perhaps off-list, and we were successful, maybe we could post 
a working process to enable others to install and use ly 2.20.


All the best,

Ralph


To have access to the currently not released 2.20 you'll need to
compile the branch stable/2.20 from the ly-git-repository. To do so
you need guilev1.
Though, isn't guile-1.8 available via synaptic?
At least for me, running Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit, it is...
Ofcourse this may be different for newer Ubuntu-versions or other OS...


I have Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS and an `apt search` does not turn up 
guile-1.8.  Do you have a custom PPA?




apt-cache policy | grep http | awk '{print $2 $3}' | sort -u

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-backports/main
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-backports/universe
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/main
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/multiverse
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/restricted
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic/universe
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/main
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/multiverse
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/restricted
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-updates/universe
http://ppa.launchpad.net/fish-shell/release-2/ubuntubionic/main
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/main
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/multiverse
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/restricted
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntubionic-security/universe


Not like it matters too much, since instructions have already been 
posted for obtaining and building guilev1 manually.



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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Do., 18. Juli 2019 um 14:37 Uhr schrieb Ralph Palmer
:
>
> Greetings -
>
> I'm running LilyPond 2.19.81 with Frescobaldi 3.0.0 under Ubuntu 18.04.2.
>
> Has any progress been made in making a process available to install LilyPond 
> 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04? Back in March of this year (2019), there was a 
> brief discussion about installing Guile 1.8 on Ubuntu 18.04, so that ly 2.20 
> could run. I tried to follow the suggestions, but was unsuccessful. If 
> someone would be willing to work with me, perhaps off-list, and we were 
> successful, maybe we could post a working process to enable others to install 
> and use ly 2.20.
>
> All the best,
>
> Ralph

To have access to the currently not released 2.20 you'll need to
compile the branch stable/2.20 from the ly-git-repository. To do so
you need guilev1.
Though, isn't guile-1.8 available via synaptic?
At least for me, running Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit, it is...
Ofcourse this may be different for newer Ubuntu-versions or other OS...

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser

Hi Ralph,



I'm running LilyPond 2.19.81 with Frescobaldi 3.0.0 under Ubuntu 18.04.2.

Has any progress been made in making a process available to install 
LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04? Back in March of this year 
(2019), there was a brief discussion about installing Guile 1.8 on 
Ubuntu 18.04, so that ly 2.20 could run. I tried to follow the 
suggestions, but was unsuccessful. If someone would be willing to work 
with me, perhaps off-list, and we were successful, maybe we could post 
a working process to enable others to install and use ly 2.20.


As David K pointed out, a "LilyPond 2.20" or "2.21" does not exist yet. 
But you can compile, e.g. current Master and work with this.


I posted instructions (that surely could be improved upon) to do this on 
Mint 19.1 in December; I'd guess it's probable that they are also valid 
for Ubuntu 18.04:


http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Compiling-LilyPond-on-Linux-Mint-19-1-td218165.html

In the discussion started by this message, some useful scripts were 
mentioned (which I did not need to try out).


Best
Lukas

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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 18 lug 2019 alle 14:37, Ralph Palmer 
 ha scritto:
Back in March of this year (2019), there was a brief discussion about 
installing Guile 1.8 on Ubuntu 18.04, so that ly 2.20 could run. I 
tried to follow the suggestions, but was unsuccessful.


Can you link to the instructions which did not work?
And what did not work exactly? Please paste the error.

You can try what you find here for Debian:
https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/blob/master/mkosi/debian/mkosi.postinst#L42

I've pasted the lines here and added sudo for the last two commands:

git clone -b branch_release-1-8 --single-branch 
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guile.git guile-1.8

cd guile-1.8
./autogen.sh
./configure --disable-error-on-warning --prefix=/usr/local
make
sudo make install
sudo ldconfig



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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread David Kastrup
Ralph Palmer  writes:

> Greetings -
>
> I'm running LilyPond 2.19.81 with Frescobaldi 3.0.0 under Ubuntu 18.04.2.
>
> Has any progress been made in making a process available to install
> LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04? Back in March of this year (2019),
> there was a brief discussion about installing Guile 1.8 on Ubuntu 18.04, so
> that ly 2.20 could run. I tried to follow the suggestions, but was
> unsuccessful. If someone would be willing to work with me, perhaps
> off-list, and we were successful, maybe we could post a working process to
> enable others to install and use ly 2.20.

2.20 has not been released yet.  We are still struggling with
release-critical stuff.  Though I should prepare another prerelease
soonish.

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LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04

2019-07-18 Thread Ralph Palmer
Greetings -

I'm running LilyPond 2.19.81 with Frescobaldi 3.0.0 under Ubuntu 18.04.2.

Has any progress been made in making a process available to install
LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 on Ubuntu 18.04? Back in March of this year (2019),
there was a brief discussion about installing Guile 1.8 on Ubuntu 18.04, so
that ly 2.20 could run. I tried to follow the suggestions, but was
unsuccessful. If someone would be willing to work with me, perhaps
off-list, and we were successful, maybe we could post a working process to
enable others to install and use ly 2.20.

All the best,

Ralph

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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 for Linux

2019-03-30 Thread Mason Hock
On 03/30, Urs Liska wrote:
> >I'm not aware of any reason it wouldn't work on
> >18.04.
> 
> except for the "small" issue of 18.04 not having  Guile 1.8 anymore...

I hadn't been aware of this. It does complicate things a bit.

Since Guile 1.8 is also needed for Lilypond 2.18.2, I figured Ubuntu
18.04 must have some way of using Guile 1.8 to build Lilypond. It looks
like the Lilypond source package includes Guile 1.8 as a tarball.[1] I
don't have access to an 18.04 system so I cannot test this, but
something like the following might work:

$ wget 
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lilypond/lilypond_2.18.2.orig-guile18.tar.gz
$ tar xf lilypond_2.18.2.orig-guile18.tar.gz
$ cd guile-1.8-1.8.8+1.orig/
$ ./autogen.sh
$ ./configure
$ make
$ sudo make install

Mason

[1] https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/lilypond


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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 for Linux

2019-03-30 Thread Urs Liska


Am 30. März 2019 20:06:50 MEZ schrieb Valentin Villenave 
:
>On 3/30/19, Ralph Palmer  wrote:
>> I think I missed something. Can I install 2.20 and/or 2.21 on Linux?
>I'm
>> not an expert, though I've used command line some. Will it be
>difficult
>> and/or dangerous?
>
>Hi Ralph,
>if you don’t want to bother with dependencies and compilation, you may
>want to have a look at this recent message in another thread, whereby
>a generous contributor has made their own builds available for
>everybody:
>https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-03/msg00480.html
>
>You may install 2.21.0 the usual way; there’s no known conflict with
>Frescobaldi at this point (other than some new keywords not being
>highlighted, possibly). And there are _lots_ of exciting new features
>and stuff, so do feel free to give it a go!

But only compared to 2.18, not 2.19.8x

>
>Cheers,
>V.
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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 for Linux

2019-03-30 Thread Urs Liska


Am 30. März 2019 18:11:54 MEZ schrieb Mason Hock :
>On 03/30, Ralph Palmer wrote:
>> I think I missed something. Can I install 2.20 and/or 2.21 on Linux?
>> not an expert, though I've used command line some.
>
>I don't think that 2.20 has been released, but since you're comfortable
>with the command line you can build 2.21.
>
>> Also, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04.2 and Frescobaldi 3.0.0. Are there any
>known
>> conflicts?
>
>I have built and run 2.21 on a derivative of 16.04 and used it with
>Frescobaldi 3.0.0. I'm not aware of any reason it wouldn't work on
>18.04.

except for the "small" issue of 18.04 not having  Guile 1.8 anymore...

>
>$ sudo apt install git
>$ sudo apt build-dep lilypond
>$ git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/lilypond.git
>$ cd lilypond
>$ ./autogen.sh
>
>Running "sudo apt build-dep lilypond" earlier will have installed build
>dependencies for Ubuntu's version of Lilypond (presumably 2.18.2) but
>if 2.21 has any additional dependencies then autogen.sh will tell you
>that you are missing a required package. Install that package with
>"sudo apt install [package-name]". If the package isn't found, then
>Ubuntu might have the package under a slightly different name (usually
>when this happens you need to add a "lib" prefix or "-dev" suffix). If
>you get stuck, "apt-cache search [what you thought the name was]" can
>help. Repeat until autogen.sh completes without errors. Then,
>
>$ make all
>
>Wait for Lilypond to build, and
>
>$ sudo make install
>
>Good luck!
>
>Mason

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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 for Linux

2019-03-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 3/30/19, Ralph Palmer  wrote:
> I think I missed something. Can I install 2.20 and/or 2.21 on Linux? I'm
> not an expert, though I've used command line some. Will it be difficult
> and/or dangerous?

Hi Ralph,
if you don’t want to bother with dependencies and compilation, you may
want to have a look at this recent message in another thread, whereby
a generous contributor has made their own builds available for
everybody:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-03/msg00480.html

You may install 2.21.0 the usual way; there’s no known conflict with
Frescobaldi at this point (other than some new keywords not being
highlighted, possibly). And there are _lots_ of exciting new features
and stuff, so do feel free to give it a go!

Cheers,
V.

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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 for Linux

2019-03-30 Thread Mason Hock
On 03/30, Ralph Palmer wrote:
> I think I missed something. Can I install 2.20 and/or 2.21 on Linux?
> not an expert, though I've used command line some.

I don't think that 2.20 has been released, but since you're comfortable
with the command line you can build 2.21.

> Also, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04.2 and Frescobaldi 3.0.0. Are there any known
> conflicts?

I have built and run 2.21 on a derivative of 16.04 and used it with
Frescobaldi 3.0.0. I'm not aware of any reason it wouldn't work on
18.04.

$ sudo apt install git
$ sudo apt build-dep lilypond
$ git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/lilypond.git
$ cd lilypond
$ ./autogen.sh

Running "sudo apt build-dep lilypond" earlier will have installed build
dependencies for Ubuntu's version of Lilypond (presumably 2.18.2) but
if 2.21 has any additional dependencies then autogen.sh will tell you
that you are missing a required package. Install that package with
"sudo apt install [package-name]". If the package isn't found, then
Ubuntu might have the package under a slightly different name (usually
when this happens you need to add a "lib" prefix or "-dev" suffix). If
you get stuck, "apt-cache search [what you thought the name was]" can
help. Repeat until autogen.sh completes without errors. Then,

$ make all

Wait for Lilypond to build, and

$ sudo make install

Good luck!

Mason



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Re: LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 for Linux

2019-03-30 Thread Urs Liska


Am 30. März 2019 15:50:05 MEZ schrieb Ralph Palmer :
>Greetings -
>
>I think I missed something. Can I install 2.20 and/or 2.21 on Linux?

You can *build* these on Linux. But if you don't have any specific reason I 
wouldn't say it is worth the effort (although that effort might be a value in 
itself). Neither is really far from the latest development version.

Urs

>I'm
>not an expert, though I've used command line some. Will it be difficult
>and/or dangerous?
>
>Also, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04.2 and Frescobaldi 3.0.0. Are there any
>known
>conflicts?
>
>All the best,
>
>Ralph
>
>
>Ralph Palmer
>Brattleboro, VT
>USA
>palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com

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LilyPond 2.20 or 2.21 for Linux

2019-03-30 Thread Ralph Palmer
Greetings -

I think I missed something. Can I install 2.20 and/or 2.21 on Linux? I'm
not an expert, though I've used command line some. Will it be difficult
and/or dangerous?

Also, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04.2 and Frescobaldi 3.0.0. Are there any known
conflicts?

All the best,

Ralph


Ralph Palmer
Brattleboro, VT
USA
palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com
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lilypond 2.20 release

2019-03-03 Thread Dirk Cresswell
hi everybody,

when will lilypond 2.20 be released? iiuc the last prerelease was 8 months ago 
and i'm wondering whether development has stopped... i would like to use all 
the new features but my university won't let me install unstable software.
thanks to all developers for making such a good software!

regards,
dirk

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Re: lilypond-2.20

2015-02-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Spuhler" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 11:53 PM
Subject: lilypond-2.20


I am the packager of Lilypond for Mageia. I haven't seen any development 
releases since September

2014 which is really very unusual. Are there any explanation for this.


We are having problems with our build system at present.

We are pretty close to a new OS release and I would like to incorporate 
2.20.0


I think you would be wise to go with 2.18

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lilypond-2.20

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Spuhler
I am the packager of Lilypond for Mageia. I haven't seen any development 
releases since September 
2014 which is really very unusual. Are there any explanation for this.

We are pretty close to a new OS release and I would like to incorporate 2.20.0

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lilypond-2.20

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Spuhler
I am the packager of Lilypond for Mageia. I haven't seen any development 
releases since September 
2014 which is really very unusual. Are there any explanation for this.

We are pretty close to a new OS release and I would like to incorporate 2.20.0

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