Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Op woensdag 7 november 2007, schreef Kieren MacMillan: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) Just a question to improve my Lily understanding: Can this also be written as: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note #'semi-fixed-space = 1.2 It's not equivalent to Kieren's answer, but it's much better, since it keeps all the other settings of the space-alist for BarLine objects. On the other hand, it's an undocumented feature that you can use this syntax in this situation. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengtsson at ee.kth.se writes: Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Op woensdag 7 november 2007, schreef Kieren MacMillan: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note #'semi-fixed-space = 1.2 It's not equivalent to Kieren's answer, but it's much better, since it keeps all the other settings of the space-alist for BarLine objects. According to my (somewhat limited) understanding, I believe that both constructs keep the rest of the space-alist settings. The first construct would set the next note property to '(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) and eliminate any other elements in the next-note property, if they exist. The second construct would update only the semi-fixed-space element of the next-note property, retaining any other values that might exist. Is my understanding incorrect? My mental model is that \override ItemHavingProperties #'foo #'bar #'baz #'frob = value will set the frob property in the baz subchain of the bar subchain of the foo alist-chain. It would also be possible to set \override ItemHavingProperties #'foo #'bar #'baz = #'(frob . value) but this will set the baz subchain value to (frob . value) and eliminate any other items in the baz subchain. If I'm wrong, please help me understand things. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Sorry, I was just confused when I wrote my previous answer. Also, I hadn't actually tried any example in LilyPond. If you do, you will soon realize that: - None of the commands given below do anything useful, since you have to replace BarLine by Score.BarLine. - The construct \override Score.BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note #'semi-fixed-space = 1.2 does not work and results in an error message. The reason, I think, is that this setting just adds a new entry to the alist and LilyPond gets confused when it finds two different settings for next-note in the space-alist. /Mats Carl Sorensen wrote: Mats Bengtsson mats.bengtsson at ee.kth.se writes: Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Op woensdag 7 november 2007, schreef Kieren MacMillan: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note #'semi-fixed-space = 1.2 It's not equivalent to Kieren's answer, but it's much better, since it keeps all the other settings of the space-alist for BarLine objects. According to my (somewhat limited) understanding, I believe that both constructs keep the rest of the space-alist settings. The first construct would set the next note property to '(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) and eliminate any other elements in the next-note property, if they exist. The second construct would update only the semi-fixed-space element of the next-note property, retaining any other values that might exist. Is my understanding incorrect? My mental model is that \override ItemHavingProperties #'foo #'bar #'baz #'frob = value will set the frob property in the baz subchain of the bar subchain of the foo alist-chain. It would also be possible to set \override ItemHavingProperties #'foo #'bar #'baz = #'(frob . value) but this will set the baz subchain value to (frob . value) and eliminate any other items in the baz subchain. If I'm wrong, please help me understand things. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Hi,
I think that Kieren had probably assumed I would put it in \layout{}
Yes -- your last few posts implied that you put most tweaks there...
I suppose that it would work with just BarLine if it were
placed inside the \layout block after \context { \Score ...
Correct!
Best regards,
Kieren.
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Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Sorry, I was just confused when I wrote my previous answer.
Also, I hadn't actually tried any example in LilyPond. If you do,
you will soon realize that:
- None of the commands given below do anything useful, since you have to
replace BarLine by Score.BarLine.
When I added the Score. context-indicator (?) to Kieren's
original suggestion, it had the intended result. I think that Kieren
had probably assumed I would put it in \layout{} but I wasn't doing
that, so I added Score. and it worked.
Here's the tweak in full for inside \score{{}} :
\override Score.Barline #'space-alist #'next-note =
#'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2)
I suppose that it would work with just BarLine if it were
placed inside the \layout block after \context { \Score ...
Right?
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minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
It appears that 2.11 leaves has minimum space after a barline, allowing the first note of a measure to be set closer to the barline than in 2.10. In my case this makes the beginning of some measures look crammed against the barline, especially where lyrics are also involved. I have refered to the program reference and have been unable to find a property that controls the minimum amount of space after a barline. I tried kern, thin-kern and space-alist (all of it, changing only first-note fixed-space), but to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Monk Panteleimon Hermitage of the Holy Cross Wayne, WV, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] + IC + XC + + + + + NI + KA + ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
wrong 'reply' - see below d out of interest, where would i find this in the new docs? cheers d On 7 Nov 2007, at 18:09, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Howdy! I have refered to the program reference and have been unable to find a property that controls the minimum amount of space after a barline. I tried kern, thin-kern and space-alist (all of it, changing only first-note fixed-space), but to no avail. Any suggestions? \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed- space . 1.2) Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Howdy! I have refered to the program reference and have been unable to find a property that controls the minimum amount of space after a barline. I tried kern, thin-kern and space-alist (all of it, changing only first-note fixed-space), but to no avail. Any suggestions? \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Hi Wilbert, Just a question to improve my Lily understanding: Can this also be written as: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note #'semi-fixed-space = 1.2 I'm not sure... there are several analogous shortcuts for other constructs, but I don't know if it works here. Hopefully someone else can be of more assistance. Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minimum after-BarLine space in 2.11
Op woensdag 7 november 2007, schreef Kieren MacMillan: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed-space . 1.2) Just a question to improve my Lily understanding: Can this also be written as: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note #'semi-fixed-space = 1.2 ? Met vriendelijke groet, Wilbert Berendsen -- http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl/ You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
